New Jersey becomes first state to mandate K-12 students learn information literacy

[T. A. Gardner]

They have to have a concentration in one subject area inwhich they intend to teach, and pass a State certification that tests their content area knowledge.

Always love the right’s attack on teachers, they send their kids they couldn’t educate nor discipline to schools and then attack the teachers to do the job they couldn’t

So? As we've seen with "Doctor" Jill Biden--to use a very public example-- her level of knowledge based on her doctoral thesis is pathetically low. Most of the teachers in K-12 I've met don't impress me as particularly brilliant.

As for "...concentration in one subject area inwhich (sic) they intend to teach, and pass a State certification that tests their content area knowledge" So, you expect someone who took some classes and passed then passed a standardized test and nothing more to be an expert in subject matter? Really?

 

[Mr.Badguy]

So? As we've seen with "Doctor" Jill Biden--to use a very public example-- her level of knowledge based on her doctoral thesis is pathetically low. Most of the teachers in K-12 I've met don't impress me as particularly brilliant.

As for "...concentration in one subject area inwhich (sic) they intend to teach, and pass a State certification that tests their content area knowledge" So, you expect someone who took some classes and passed then passed a standardized test and nothing more to be an expert in subject matter? Really?

Whoever said K-12 teachers have to be experts?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Whoever said K-12 teachers have to be experts?

Well, they should at least be knowledgeable, and they generally aren't...

 

[Matt Dillon]

Apart from a few teachers who do train their students in critical thinking, most teachers do not for one simple reason — there is no time. State education departments mandate that so much material has to be covered that critical thinking cannot be taught, nor can the courses themselves be critically presented
https://thetylt.com/culture/schools...he courses themselves be critically presented.

Indoctrination is a major roadblock to critical thinking. When an individual is surrounded and constantly fed a one-sided view on things like personal beliefs or politics, it stifles critical thinking.

...some people are more adept than others when it comes to being skeptical and analytical. This is understandable, because people who lack intelligence will find it much easier to simply accept certain ideas at face-value than take the time and effort to research them.

What stifles critical thinking in some cases is an unwillingness to do research

critical thinking requires a certain degree of intelligence, cognitive impairment prevents people from grasping the complex rules and processes of critical thinking.
https://classroom.synonym.com/causes-lack-critical-thinking-skills-8627034.html#lack-of-intelligence

It is a rare high-school graduate who can pinpoint 20 different kinds of fallacies in a line of argumentation while reading or listening; who knows how to distinguish between fact and opinion, objective account and specious polemic; who can tell the difference between value judgments, explanatory theories, and metaphysical claims, and knows how these three kinds of statement can or cannot be proven or disproven; who can argue both sides of a question, anticipate objections, and rebut them; and who can undermine arguments in various ways.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-public-schools-dont-t_b_7956518

Most people, and that includes teachers, lack the skills for quality critical thinking. That means teachers that lack those skills will be trying to impart them on students that lack those skills. It's like trying to teach furniture making or landscape painting from a book. Critical thinking is a skill that has to be practiced, and practiced a lot. Trying to teach it by rote or some shortcut out of a book won't work, and that's almost certainly where this will end up since virtually all those teaching it will have little choice but to do it from a textbook lacking the skills in sufficient detail to do it themselves.

They'll have to have some symposiums.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Whoever said K-12 teachers have to be experts?

Well aren't you just an absolute moron?!

You should quit while you're only a step behind, shortbus.

 

[Flash]

No, stating an obvious fact. Few teachers have degrees outside of one in education based on a non-STEM liberal arts degree. They lack critical thinking skills almost entirely. This is even more true of those that are solidly behind and in a teacher's union where the radical Left dominates entirely.

Whatever the law is about doesn't mean that will be translated effectively into the classroom, and few teachers will be able to effectively teach this skill since they lack it themselves.

Only elementary teachers have degrees in education. Secondary teacher usually are qualified to teach two subjects because of courses taken in those areas (plus a few education courses). Those include math and sciences.

If they can't teach some critical thinking skills they shouldn't be teaching science, math, or any other subject. So, they can't be any better or worse. The problem is when throwing some required course into the curricula (health, personal finance, etc.) they are not taken seriously and seen as easy courses.

 

[Phantasmal]

Well, they should at least be knowledgeable, and they generally aren't...

I don’t know why people denigrate such a devoted group of people as teachers. There are some bad teachers, but the majority are very good at their profession.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Amid a worrying rise in internet misinformation and political conspiracy theories, New Jersey students are poised to become some of the most informationally literate in the country.

Gov. Phil Murphy on Wednesday signed legislation, NJ S.B. 588 (22R)/NJ A.B. 4169 (22R), that will make New Jersey the first state to require that K-12 students learn about how information is produced and spread on the internet, critical thinking skills, the difference between facts and opinions and the ethics of creating and sharing information both online and in print.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/n...A160JII?cvid=18a1f734104d4e148a5e0abf5da2883e

Good plan.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

And who will teach these supposed "skills"?

Teachers.

Were you homeschooled, Yak? Did your parents actually know what they were teaching or did they just plunk you down in front of Fox News or Rush on the radio and say "learn this"?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

They'll have to have some symposiums.

 

[Matt Dillon]

No, stating an obvious fact. Few teachers have degrees outside of one in education based on a non-STEM liberal arts degree. They lack critical thinking skills almost entirely. This is even more true of those that are solidly behind and in a teacher's union where the radical Left dominates entirely.

Whatever the law is about doesn't mean that will be translated effectively into the classroom, and few teachers will be able to effectively teach this skill since they lack it themselves.

How is that possible when they got a Liberal Arts degree? I know things have changed since back in my day; But have they really slipped that far?

Every psyllabus of mine said: "blah blah blah, as usual, we teach by the Socratic method". At the time I thought it was hella redundant, now I realize it was a blessing.

I know that changed shortly after I left school.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I don’t know why people denigrate such a devoted group of people as teachers. There are some bad teachers, but the majority are very good at their profession.

The majority are mediocre at their profession. That's why US public schools do so shittly in comparison to other countries. That's why most Americans with nothing but a high school education are such dumbfucks.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Hey man, they'll need a crash course to be able to effect those policies properly. Teachers are always going to "update symposiums" n stuff.

This one might have to be double long. It's a big shift if they were taught by critical theory.

 

[Phantasmal]

The majority are mediocre at their profession. That's why US public schools do so shittly in comparison to other countries. That's why most Americans with nothing but a high school education are such dumbfucks.

I’m sorry you live in an area where they are mediocre, I find every teacher my children and grandchildren have had to be very qualified with the exception of one High School history teacher. It’s sad you denigrate teachers. You should volunteer in a classroom and see what these people do, often buying supplies because they aren’t supplied. They aren’t only teachers, they are counselors and comforters.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Apart from a few teachers who do train their students in critical thinking, most teachers do not for one simple reason — there is no time. State education departments mandate that so much material has to be covered that critical thinking cannot be taught, nor can the courses themselves be critically presented
https://thetylt.com/culture/schools...he courses themselves be critically presented.

Indoctrination is a major roadblock to critical thinking. When an individual is surrounded and constantly fed a one-sided view on things like personal beliefs or politics, it stifles critical thinking.

...some people are more adept than others when it comes to being skeptical and analytical. This is understandable, because people who lack intelligence will find it much easier to simply accept certain ideas at face-value than take the time and effort to research them.

What stifles critical thinking in some cases is an unwillingness to do research

critical thinking requires a certain degree of intelligence, cognitive impairment prevents people from grasping the complex rules and processes of critical thinking.
https://classroom.synonym.com/causes-lack-critical-thinking-skills-8627034.html#lack-of-intelligence

It is a rare high-school graduate who can pinpoint 20 different kinds of fallacies in a line of argumentation while reading or listening; who knows how to distinguish between fact and opinion, objective account and specious polemic; who can tell the difference between value judgments, explanatory theories, and metaphysical claims, and knows how these three kinds of statement can or cannot be proven or disproven; who can argue both sides of a question, anticipate objections, and rebut them; and who can undermine arguments in various ways.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-public-schools-dont-t_b_7956518

Most people, and that includes teachers, lack the skills for quality critical thinking. That means teachers that lack those skills will be trying to impart them on students that lack those skills. It's like trying to teach furniture making or landscape painting from a book. Critical thinking is a skill that has to be practiced, and practiced a lot. Trying to teach it by rote or some shortcut out of a book won't work, and that's almost certainly where this will end up since virtually all those teaching it will have little choice but to do it from a textbook lacking the skills in sufficient detail to do it themselves.

Did you bother to read everything you linked to? It would appear not since you made a claim that was clearly made up about what 98% of teachers lack skills that your sources state "most teachers do not for one simple reason — there is no time."

It seems you are clearly lacking the critical thinking skills that you think teachers lack.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Did you bother to read everything you linked to? It would appear not since you made a claim that was clearly made up about what 98% of teachers lack skills that your sources state "most teachers do not for one simple reason — there is no time."

It seems you are clearly lacking the critical thinking skills that you think teachers lack.

Now that's wrong.

You're pulling assumptions out of the ether. That dog ain't gonna hunt.

If you're correct, you're claiming the teachers won't be able to teach kids critical thinking (because there's no time). Pretty self-owning post, that.

I say there's no time like the present!

 

[evince]

The left leaning in the pocket of the dem party teachers?????? Yeah that sounds like a really shutty idea.

Because you assholes can’t make it through college


That’s why Donnie the orange loves the poorly educated

 

[evince]

The majority are mediocre at their profession. That's why US public schools do so shittly in comparison to other countries. That's why most Americans with nothing but a high school education are such dumbfucks.

But Donny still loves you idiots huh

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Good question, since it is likely that 98% of teachers in New Jersey lack the very skills they're supposed to teach...

Link please!

Every asshole in the world has an opinion!

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Now that's wrong.

You're pulling assumptions out of the ether. That dog ain't gonna hunt.

If you're correct, you're claiming the teachers won't be able to teach kids critical thinking (because there's no time). Pretty self-owning post, that.

I say there's no time like the present!

The guy that claimed 98% of teachers are incapable of critical thinking is the one that posted that they have no time.

But thanks for proving you are completely unable to follow a simple conversation let alone apply critical thinking to the positions taken.