New Iraq report reminds us what a real issue is

anatta said:
it won him support by thinking ( Bernie supporters)Democrats - not the Clintonistas.
In fact Bernie questioned her judgment not just because of Iraq - but because she did the same thing over Libya.
(and Syria)

Bernie isn't the best to attack Hillary; he shied off on the Emails despite her "extreme carelessness".
But he at least got the fact across that her judgment is whacked out neocon.
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Didn't thingy tell you, Iraq bad, Libya good...a dire threat to the US ...
 
Thing1 said:
I was against Libya, too.

I'm not a koolaid-drenched hack apologist like you. Let me guess - you were FOR Iraq, and AGAINST Libya...right?

Oops.
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Well again, love it or hate it, wrong-headed or not, Iraq had a justification. Not only that, other nations agreed with it.

What was our justification for invading Libya?
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Well again, love it or hate it, wrong-headed or not, Iraq had a justification. Not only that, other nations agreed with it.

What was our justification for invading Libya?
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I love how you just skip right past the fact that you didn't even know there was a coalition.

Do you want me to conduct a little tutorial on Libya for you? It sounds like you have no idea what happened. At all.
 
Thing1 said:
I was against Libya, too.

I'm not a koolaid-drenched hack apologist like you. Let me guess - you were FOR Iraq, and AGAINST Libya...right?

Oops.
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Well, I did hear Iraq and WMD was a dire threat for so many years I thought they knew what they were talking about...

Libya....never heard about them being a threat to anyone Libyans....surely no threat to the US.....
 
NOVA said:
Well, I did hear Iraq and WMD was a dire threat for so many years I thought they knew what they were talking about...

Libya....never heard about them being a threat to anyone Libyans....surely no threat to the US.....
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Aw, poor little hack. Turns out w/ you, it's Iraq=good, Libya=bad. And all because one was a Republican, and one was a Dem.
 
Thing1 said:
I love how you just skip right past the fact that you didn't even know there was a coalition.

Do you want me to conduct a little tutorial on Libya for you? It sounds like you have no idea what happened. At all.
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If you're talking about UN Security Council Resolutions, we heard the song and dance about Iraq dozens of times about dozens of resolutions....
 
Thing1 said:
I love how you just skip right past the fact that you didn't even know there was a coalition.

Do you want me to conduct a little tutorial on Libya for you? It sounds like you have no idea what happened. At all.
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Ok, they had a coalition but that doesn't mitigate my point about it being as bone headed as the Iraq invasion.

Guess it matters who gets us into it.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Ok, they had a coalition but that doesn't mitigate my point about it being as bone headed as the Iraq invasion.

Guess it matters who gets us into it.
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You said arguably more bone headed - not as.

And you clearly have no idea what happened in Libya.

And I don't really understand your last line, as I was against both Iraq & Libya. Were you talking about NOVA?
 
Thing1 said:
Aw, poor little hack. Turns out w/ you, it's Iraq=good, Libya=bad. And all because one was a Republican, and one was a Dem.
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Try again.

What exactly did we get out of attacking Libya...besides just another stronghold for ISIS and a few dead Americans in Benghazi....

which could have possibly been prevented in Iraq if we didn't leave when conditions changed.....
 
NOVA said:
Try again.

What exactly did we get out of attacking Libya...besides just another stronghold for ISIS and a few dead Americans in Benghazi....

which could have possibly been prevented in Iraq if we didn't leave when conditions changed.....
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What did we get out of Iraq?

ISIS? Regional instability? Millions of refugees and hundreds of thousands of deaths?

Wow, bravs. Look at the article in the OP. These are EXACTLY the things that we were warned about before invasion. Enough of this "oh, if Obama had just seen it through" BS.
 
Thing1 said:
You said arguably more bone headed - not as.

And you clearly have no idea what happened in Libya.

And I don't really understand your last line, as I was against both Iraq & Libya. Were you talking about NOVA?
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I stand by everything I've said. Iraq was justified based on intelligence that Saddam had WMD. That it turned out to be wrong, in retrospect, doesn't change the fact it's a better justification than getting involved in a civil war in Libya.

And I still don't why we did it. Maybe you can give me a quick tutorial lol.
 
Thing1 said:
What did we get out of Iraq?

ISIS? Regional instability? Millions of refugees and hundreds of thousands of deaths?

Wow, bravs. Look at the article in the OP. These are EXACTLY the things that we were warned about before invasion. Enough of this "oh, if Obama had just seen it through" BS.
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What did we get out of Iraq?

Is that really your answer to my question....?

At Tuesday’s primary debate, Clinton was criticized not just for the Iraq War vote that cost her the 2008 election, but also for the undeclared 2011 war that she urged in Libya. The Obama Administration waged that war of choice in violation of the War Powers Resolution and despite the official opposition of the U.S. Congress. “Governor Webb has said that he would never have used military force in Libya and that the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was inevitable,” Anderson Cooper told the former Secretary of State. “Should you have seen that attack coming?”

Her answer included a broad defense of the war in Libya. “Remember what was going on,” she began, repeating a version of events that some intelligence officials and human rights groups doubt. “We had a murderous dictator, Gadhafi, who had American blood on his hands ... threatening to massacre large numbers of the Libyan people.


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/hillary-clinton-debate-libya/410437/
 
NOVA said:
What did we get out of Iraq?

Is that really your answer to my question....?

At Tuesday’s primary debate, Clinton was criticized not just for the Iraq War vote that cost her the 2008 election, but also for the undeclared 2011 war that she urged in Libya. The Obama Administration waged that war of choice in violation of the War Powers Resolution and despite the official opposition of the U.S. Congress. “Governor Webb has said that he would never have used military force in Libya and that the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was inevitable,” Anderson Cooper told the former Secretary of State. “Should you have seen that attack coming?”

Her answer included a broad defense of the war in Libya. “Remember what was going on,” she began, repeating a version of events that some intelligence officials and human rights groups doubt. “We had a murderous dictator, Gadhafi, who had American blood on his hands ... threatening to massacre large numbers of the Libyan people.


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/hillary-clinton-debate-libya/410437/
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Why are you even trying to argue this w/ me? I was against both. You're the one who liked the GOP one, but not the Dem one.

As far as scale, there is no comparison whatsoever.
 
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