'Never Been a Better Time to Buy an Electric Car': Auto Expert

Yea, sure... That'll work... :rolleyes: Let's see... You have an older shitty battery in your car. You go to a swap location and they give you a fresh, charged, new or almost new, one. You happily drive off having taken the swap station for a bunch of chumps...

Nobody is going to do that because they won't know the condition of your battery versus the one you are getting. Then there's the issue that batteries are different for different models of car and manufacturer. Such a station would have to have hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in stocking a range of batteries for different cars, and the swap out process would vary by vehicle. The swap process would also take quite some time as those batteries aren't just a few connections.

You're just making shit up again. You have absolutely NO IDEA how the process will work. You're just rambling because you're butthurt again.

Cathie Wood is known for her convictions as an investor. And she’s one of Tesla‘s biggest bulls, believing the future of personal transportation is all-electric.
Wednesday, Wood’s firm, ARK Invest, released its 2023 Big Ideas report, the latest in a series of such annual reports. It covers a variety of big trends that guide ARK’s investing including cryptocurrency, precision healthcare and electric vehicles.
EVs had a big year in 2022 with global unit sales growing about 62% year over year. Sales of gasoline powered cars and hybrid-electric vehicles declined by about 7%, according to ARK.
The shift to electric isn’t new. Gasoline and hybrid sales have declined in four of the past five years, which is creating a dilemma for traditional auto makers: They are serving a shrinking market, a reason most car makers have pivoted toward EVs.
ARK believes the entire industry will accelerate vehicle electrification efforts and projects the industry will spend more than $1 trillion, cumulatively, on EV development over the coming 10 years. The money would go for platform development, plants and battery capacity.
It’s a huge number, but checks out. The world’s top auto makers spend roughly $120 billion annually on plants and equipment. And auto makers already spend roughly 50% of their capital budgets on EVs. When adding in capital spending by battery makers, its easy to see how spending numbers can approach $100 billion a year.
That investing should yield benefits such as cheaper EVs that charge quicker. ARK has thoughts about all that.
Regarding charging, ARK predicts a driver will get about 200 miles of range in 4 minutes by 2027, down from about 200 miles of range in 15 minutes today. That 15-minute figure is based on the newest EVs and fastest direct current chargers.
In 2020, ARK projected that EVs would cost less than traditional cars by 2022. It didn’t happen last year but it could happen in 2023. A Tesla (ticker: TSLA) Model 3 can be purchased for $44,000 before any government incentives. The average price of a new vehicle in the U.S. at the end of 2022 was about $50,000.
Putting it all together, ARK sees global EV production hitting 60 million units annually by 2027. That would be roughly 70% of total light vehicle production and is much faster adoption than almost everyone predicts.
 
The push to outlaw gas cars has run into a problem......far too many people dont want the EV's.

More force will now be applied.

What you want is irrelevant.

"UTOPIA!"

I don't think so, FawkEwe10:

(Reuters) - Volvo Cars is gearing up for an electric blitz to convert all its mainstay models - three SUVs and two sedans - into electric vehicles and to introduce a luxury electric van aimed at boosting sales in Asia, two people with knowledge of the plans said.
The Swedish carmaker, 82%-owned by China’s Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, is expected to launch at least six new battery electric vehicles through 2026, the two people told Reuters.
Volvo has announced an objective to make its entire lineup fully electric by 2030. The company’s Australia unit has said it plans to sell only EVs in that market by 2026.
 
I have a Volt. My son has a Bolt and a Volt. We will all be EV customers from now on. I have spent zero money on repairs since 2015. I had to replace one tire.

I have spent zero on maintenance and repairs for my EV as well. The only bad thing about EVs is that AAMCO and Jiffy Lube will need to find another line of work.
 

Yea, sure it takes two minutes. Look at the size of the bolts holding that pack in place. They look like 3/4" 10 SAE Grade 5 or 8's. They'd have to be to hold what?, like a ton or more of battery in place on the car.

I'd say I have a very good idea how the process of removing a ton + of battery goes, particularly compared to Joke Communist here...
 
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I have a Volt. My son has a Bolt and a Volt. We will all be EV customers from now on. I have spent zero money on repairs since 2015. I had to replace one tire.

Hard to believe....tires don't generally last that long, they break down with age.
 
You're just making shit up again.
Inversion fallacy.
You have absolutely NO IDEA how the process will work. You're just rambling because you're butthurt again.
It doesn't work. There are no 'swap stations'.
Cathie Wood is known for her convictions as an investor. And she’s one of Tesla‘s biggest bulls, believing the future of personal transportation is all-electric.
Wednesday, Wood’s firm, ARK Invest, released its 2023 Big Ideas report, the latest in a series of such annual reports. It covers a variety of big trends that guide ARK’s investing including cryptocurrency, precision healthcare and electric vehicles.
EVs had a big year in 2022 with global unit sales growing about 62% year over year. Sales of gasoline powered cars and hybrid-electric vehicles declined by about 7%, according to ARK.
The shift to electric isn’t new. Gasoline and hybrid sales have declined in four of the past five years, which is creating a dilemma for traditional auto makers: They are serving a shrinking market, a reason most car makers have pivoted toward EVs.
ARK believes the entire industry will accelerate vehicle electrification efforts and projects the industry will spend more than $1 trillion, cumulatively, on EV development over the coming 10 years. The money would go for platform development, plants and battery capacity.
It’s a huge number, but checks out. The world’s top auto makers spend roughly $120 billion annually on plants and equipment. And auto makers already spend roughly 50% of their capital budgets on EVs. When adding in capital spending by battery makers, its easy to see how spending numbers can approach $100 billion a year.
That investing should yield benefits such as cheaper EVs that charge quicker. ARK has thoughts about all that.
Regarding charging, ARK predicts a driver will get about 200 miles of range in 4 minutes by 2027, down from about 200 miles of range in 15 minutes today. That 15-minute figure is based on the newest EVs and fastest direct current chargers.
In 2020, ARK projected that EVs would cost less than traditional cars by 2022. It didn’t happen last year but it could happen in 2023. A Tesla (ticker: TSLA) Model 3 can be purchased for $44,000 before any government incentives. The average price of a new vehicle in the U.S. at the end of 2022 was about $50,000.
Putting it all together, ARK sees global EV production hitting 60 million units annually by 2027. That would be roughly 70% of total light vehicle production and is much faster adoption than almost everyone predicts.

Argument from randU fallacies. Special pleading fallacies. Speculations. Less than 1% of the cars on the road are EVs.
 
I have spent zero on maintenance and repairs for my EV as well. The only bad thing about EVs is that AAMCO and Jiffy Lube will need to find another line of work.

So you don't take care of your car. Gotit.

EVs have transmissions. EVs need lubrication to function. Less than 1% of the cars on the road are EVs.
 

Yea, sure it takes two minutes. Look at the size of the bolts holding that pack in place. They look like 3/4" 10 SAE Grade 5 or 8's. They'd have to be to hold what?, like a ton or more of battery in place on the car.

This procedure is on a Tesla. The battery pack weighs about 1200 lbs for standard range, and about 1600 lbs for extended range. The bolts are M14 (slightly larger than 1/2 inch) and grade 8.
Teslas have had a running problem with these bolts working loose and even dropping out. Improper torquing and failure to use any locktight allows these bolts to back out under normal vibration of the car. These bolts thread into a nutplate on the battery pack itself. Those nutplates are a restricted order part.

The battery modules are held in the pack using M8 bolts, standard grade (about like a 3/8ths bolt).

The F150 Lightning battery weighs in at a whopping 4000lbs! It's pretty easy to see why useful load sucks on this vehicle. That's about the same as the curb weight of an entire F150 truck that's gasoline powered!
You won't change one of those in two minutes!
 
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So you dont believe this story of an EV with 8 year old tires?

It's possible depending on miles and such...

Electric Vehicle Maintenance Is Super-Cheap, But The Dark Secret Is Tires
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradte...but-the-dark-secret-is-tires/?sh=3d3444d73831

EV Maintenance Is Cheap but Replacing Tires Can Get Pricey
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ev-maintenance-cheap-replacing-tires-pricey/

Myth or reality: Do the tires of electric cars wear out more?
https://afrinik.com/myth-or-reality-do-the-tires-of-electric-cars-wear-out-more/

(Hint: It's true)

Do EV tires wear faster?
Typically yes, but not always. Electric vehicles are significantly heavier than gas-powered cars because their battery packs weigh so much. That extra weight puts more pressure on the tires, leading to faster wear.

https://insideevs.com/features/623285/ev-tires-explained/
 
when has a car salesman ever not said it was the best time to buy ?

and they say it loudest when sales are falling off a cliff.
 
when has a car salesman ever not said it was the best time to buy ?

and they say it loudest when sales are falling off a cliff.

Gas car sales are falling of a cliff, not EV sales.

EV sales log triple-digit YoY growth in 2022. Ford’s EV sales jumped 126%

Electric vehicle sales were a bright spot in an otherwise bleak season at the end of 2022 in a sign of car manufacturers’ increased focus on energy-efficient vehicles and continued supply constraints on internal combustion engine cars. Ford Motor, Hyundai Motor America and Volvo Car USA all reported EV sales growth.
 
Hard to believe....tires don't generally last that long, they break down with age.

The Chevy Volt has a recall due to problems with the brake design. There is another one concerning the power train (the typical GM corrosion and weak electrical design problem).
GM loses money on every Volt they sell. They can only do it because of government subsidies.
The Bolt is even worse. It has recalls active for similar problems as the Volt (some of which cause catastrophic fire), plus a recall for defective airbags.

GM and Chevy cars are well known for weak electrical system design (overloaded switches, poor quality connectors, etc) and corrosion (usually galvanic), particularly body corrosion. GM is typically pretty cheap on protective coatings and doesn't consider the effect of bolting dissimilar metals together very much.Yes....it affects their EVs as well.

On the other hand, Fords are well known for spatial relationship problems and they can't seem to get their head wrapped around hydraulics. Cheap materials are also an issue. Yes...it affects their EVs as well.
 
Gas car sales are falling of a cliff, not EV sales.

EV sales log triple-digit YoY growth in 2022. Ford’s EV sales jumped 126%

Electric vehicle sales were a bright spot in an otherwise bleak season at the end of 2022 in a sign of car manufacturers’ increased focus on energy-efficient vehicles and continued supply constraints on internal combustion engine cars. Ford Motor, Hyundai Motor America and Volvo Car USA all reported EV sales growth.

Making up numbers and quoting them as data is a fallacy, dude.
 
'Never Been a Better Time to Buy an Electric Car': Auto Expert
It’s highly unusual for a car manufacturer to slash the MSRP of a vehicle after a launch. But that’s exactly what’s happened to the four best-selling electric vehicles in the U.S. now that Ford has joined Tesla in announcing major price cuts.
Could this be the start of full-fledged electric car price war? The two manufacturers’ moves certainly put pressure on other players in the EV industry to make cars more affordable, according to Alain Nana-Sinkam, SVP of business development at the automotive pricing company TrueCar.
“There hasn’t been a whole lot that’s been conventional about the way Tesla has gone to market in selling vehicles, but the concept that there would be significant changes in manufacturer suggested retail prices in the middle of the model year is a very uncommon thing in our industry, especially at these levels — thousands of dollars,” he says.
Whether Ford and Tesla’s competitors will announce price cuts of their own remains to be seen. The overarching trend in the market is actually the opposite: Prices have been rising steadily, and the average new car is now selling for an all-time high of nearly $50,000.
Price cuts aren’t the only way to make cars more affordable. The more traditional way to accomplish that and entice buyers is with incentives, which can take the form of financing deals or cash rebates. But the option of cutting sticker prices has particular appeal in the EV market right now because cars that cost over certain amounts (which depend on the type of vehicle) aren’t eligible for new EV tax credits of up to $7,500.

In light of the price cuts and the new tax credits, Pat Ryan, CEO of car shopping app CoPilot, says “there’s probably never been a better time to buy an electric car.”
The Tesla price cuts will likely force competitors including Ford to lose money on at least some of their electric cars to gain market share, which is great news for buyers, he says.
Shoppers who wait, however, will have many more vehicles to choose from, especially with GM and BMW’s ambitious plans for launching dozens of electric vehicles by 2025 between the two of them, Ryan says.
If you’re considering a used EV, those prices have also declined significantly. “For the first time since November 2021, the average used EV on the market is below $50,000 — it’s about $48,700, so prices have really come down,” Ryan says. Lower gas prices and Tesla’s cuts on new vehicles have contributed to the softening.

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Provide links to copyrighted material. Rule 5.

You have got to be fucking shitting me with this.

Your Nazi pals frequently post shit like this without links all the time, but you haven't ONCE warned any of them about Rule 5.
 
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