My letter to Cruz Republicans

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To my Fellow Patriots,

My message today is about party unity. I am not going to sit here and defend Trump as a conservative. He is not. He is a nationalist. That means that he identifies with the GOP more as the GOP has been more about border security than the Democrats have. Does that mean he thinks all GOP ideas are ones that put America first? No. He will disagree with the GOP on free trade and most likely always will.

Cruz would not have done a lot better than Romney. I wager the same states that Romney lost he would have lost and the same states Romney won he would have won as well. Which of course leaves you with a democrat for a president. Is that in any way cruz's fault? No not really. Changing demographics as well as an educational system designed to produce liberals has made it so that Republicans cannot win national contests anymore and have to rely on heavily gerrymandered districts for congressional control.

There are two theories floating about on how the republicans can win. First is to bring out the "missing white" voters. Well I have good news for you on that front. Trump has already brought them out. It is up to you on whether you will accept them or not. Second is to broaden their appeal to blacks and latinos. I want to discuss this further. For latinos republicans have tried to flirt with amnesty and other programs angering their base and for blacks you have tried to make the case that they need education, values, and other things to get a job. In both lines you are trying to outdemocrat democrats. Its just not going to happen. Democrats will always push for more open borders than you and they will always offer more free things than you. It comes with their territory.

Trump is offering a different tactic. He is wooing them from the Republican side. He is telling them that provided they work for it they can have jobs and he will prioritize them over illegal aliens. Will it work? Maybe. It has a better chance than trying to be a bigger democrat. With Trump limiting outsourcing and illegal immigration we can now legitimately offer jobs that democrats would not be able to provide so they can pull themselves out of their economic situation.

Your concern is that you will no longer recognize the party after Trump is done with it. Rightly so. Nationalism and conservatism don't always see eye to eye on all issues. Trump will come and he will go. Hopefully after eight years. If worse comes to worse after this November. Yet the people will still be in the party long after that. Conservatism will still be there and depending on your actions now, could have a lot more adherents.

You now have a unique opportunity. There are many more people in the party now than there has been before. Do they pass your ideological stress test? Not by a long shot. Can you now discuss things with them to convince them to become conservative? Yes! Do you want to revitalize the conservative movement? Well you have all these people now who have previously hardened their hearts are now willing to listen provided you accept them. We are fed up with the liberal lies and are more wiling to hear the truth now. Everyone who is voting for Cruz fervently believes in the fundamental rightness of the conservative cause. It is easier to convince people of that standing side by side rather than shouting across a room. If you truly believed your ideas have merit you would jump at the chance to reach a wider audience than ever before.

Conservatives believe in giving and receiving value in all things. I want unity because I would like a president Trump and believe that some nationalistic ideas would pull us out of this hole we are in. I propose that unity would be beneficial for you too because it gains you an audience of willing listeners ready to be converted to the conservative cause. I pray that we can unite for the benefit of the country and conservatism in general.

signed,

A Trump Supporter
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I love when partisans bullshit themselves. Cruz would have been crushed in the General. He would have been defeated in the greatest landslide defeat since Mondale. His double down that far right wing ideology has failed because leaders were just not conservative enough is just plain laughable. Combine with the fact that he's about as like able as a skunk at a wedding reception and he would have been crushed. A hand full of southern States and a few depopulated western States might have voted for him and that's it. Trump may be an under dog going into the general but unlike Crus he has built a broad coalition of voters...just not broad enough. There isn't enough right wing loonies out there that could get Cruz elected. In fact Cruz has helped Trump immeasurably as compared to Cruz Trump looks like a plausible and reasonable candidate.

Best thing to happen to America during this primary season was Ted Cruz defeat.
 
tsuke said:
If you are waiting for states with the highest GDP to have bailouts before you revitalize conservatism it may already be dead at that point. The educational system and unfettered immigration is killing it already.

Im just pointing out that if you were to accept them there are millions more people willing to listen to you now. Im sure the grassroots of the Cruz republican camp can speak to people of all intellect levels.
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The grassroots of the Lyin' Ted camp have roughly 100 IQ points on the minions within the Douchebag Donald camp, making communication impossible.
 
they are all evil and will no longer be able to cheat the people out of power by stealing elections
 
tsuke said:
If you are waiting for states with the highest GDP to have bailouts before you revitalize conservatism it may already be dead at that point. The educational system and unfettered immigration is killing it already.

Im just pointing out that if you were to accept them there are millions more people willing to listen to you now. Im sure the grassroots of the Cruz republican camp can speak to people of all intellect levels.
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Translation double down on failed far right wing ideology. That will save the country.

You're in LaLa land.
 
Establishment said:
The grassroots of the Lyin' Ted camp have roughly 100 IQ points on the minions within the Douchebag Donald camp, making communication impossible.
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Thats debatable. Ted Cruz is a far more dangerous demagogue than Trump. Trump may be a cynical opportunist but he isn't batshit crazy.
 
I agree with the OP. I'm not sure it's possible to get a Republican that passes the ideological purity test into the WH. We've lost the electorate and if it/they stay lost this country will go down the tubes. Broadening the coalition under Trump may be the best option at this point. If someone has a better idea, I'm all ears.

And voting third party for the sake of principle doesn't count, because that will solve nothing.
 
your ideas are all fucking lie based you dumb fuck


your shit heads have never proven correct in retrospect you fucking traitor to the nation
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
I agree with the OP. I'm not sure it's possible to get a Republican that passes the ideological purity test into the WH. We've lost the electorate and if it/they stay lost this country will go down the tubes. Broadening the coalition under Trump may be the best option at this point. If someone has a better idea, I'm all ears.

And voting third party for the sake of principle doesn't count, because that will solve nothing.
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As long as people think that way, we'll continue as we are - and have 2 candidates who no one really wants to vote for. A 3rd party will never get out of the gates as long as people feel like "this is what we're stuck with."

Every vote I cast from now on is going to be a vote I'm proud of on its merits - not because it was voting against someone, or the "lesser of 2 evils."
 
Thing1 said:
As long as people think that way, we'll continue as we are - and have 2 candidates who no one really wants to vote for. A 3rd party will never get out of the gates as long as people feel like "this is what we're stuck with."

Every vote I cast from now on is going to be a vote I'm proud of on its merits - not because it was voting against someone, or the "lesser of 2 evils."
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I think that if your looking at it as a vote for growing the conservative movement like i outlined here it does make sense. You now have a willing audience that is receptive to your message if you unite with them.
 
tsuke said:
I think that if your looking at it as a vote for growing the conservative movement like i outlined here it does make sense. You now have a willing audience that is receptive to your message if you unite with them.
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The whole OP is a rationalization, though.

I think a lot of Trump supporters are going to have a bad case of buyer's remorse by mid-summer.
 
Thing1 said:
The whole OP is a rationalization, though.

I think a lot of Trump supporters are going to have a bad case of buyer's remorse by mid-summer.
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A lot of people are afraid of what trump will do and that is valid because they are not sure. I already know what hillary will do. More TPP, more outsourcing, more illegal immigration.

At some point it is better to be uncertain about possible victory than certain of defeat.

Which is why vote trump.
 
Thing1 said:
As long as people think that way, we'll continue as we are - and have 2 candidates who no one really wants to vote for. A 3rd party will never get out of the gates as long as people feel like "this is what we're stuck with."

Every vote I cast from now on is going to be a vote I'm proud of on its merits - not because it was voting against someone, or the "lesser of 2 evils."
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Well said. :good4u:
 
evince said:
they are racists


pretending otherwise is foolish
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Thing1 said:
As long as people think that way, we'll continue as we are - and have 2 candidates who no one really wants to vote for. A 3rd party will never get out of the gates as long as people feel like "this is what we're stuck with."

Every vote I cast from now on is going to be a vote I'm proud of on its merits - not because it was voting against someone, or the "lesser of 2 evils."
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You missed my point about the electorate: there aren't enough conservatives to win the White House. If Ronald Reagan 2.0 jumped in as a third party, I could vote for him and feel good about myself during Hillary's first term.

I'm voting for Trump.
 
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