My apology to Donald Trump and his supporters.

Got this from Quora a while back, but never posted it. Cannot find a link to it, but it is worth posting, because I want to agree with the person who posted it. I feel the same obligation to apologize.

I owe my Trump-supporting family and friends an apology. I’ve been critical of the Trump presidency and am still exhausted from the experience. But to be fair, President Trump wasn’t that bad, other than when:

He incited an insurrection against the government

Mismanaged a pandemic that killed nearly half a million Americans

Separated children from their families, and lost those children in the bureaucracy

Tear-gassed peaceful protesters on Lafayette Square so he could hold a photo op holding a Bible in front of a church

Tried to block all Muslims from entering the country

Got impeached, got impeached again

Had the worst jobs record of any president in modern history

Pressured Ukraine to dig dirt on Joe Biden

Fired the FBI director for investigating his ties to Russia

Bragged about firing the FBI director on TV

Took Vladimir Putin’s word over the US intelligence community

Diverted military funding to build his wall

Caused the longest government shutdown in US history

Called Black Lives Matter a “symbol of hate"

Lied 30,000 times

Banned transgender people from serving in the military

Ejected reporters from the White House briefing room who asked tough questions

Vetoed the defense funding bill because it renamed military bases named for Confederate soldiers

Refused to release his tax returns

Increased the national debt by nearly $8 trillion

Had three of the highest annual trade deficits in U.S. history

Called veterans and soldiers who died in combat losers and suckers

Coddled the leader of Saudi Arabia after he ordered the execution and dismembering of a US-based journalist

Refused to concede the 2020 election

Hired his unqualified daughter and son-in-law to work in the White House

Walked out of an interview with Lesley Stahl

Called neo-Nazis “very fine people”

Suggested that people should inject bleach into their bodies to fight COVID

Abandoned our allies the Kurds to Turkey

Pushed through massive tax cuts for the wealthiest but balked at helping working Americans

Incited anti-lockdown protestors in several states at the height of the pandemic

Withdrew the US from the Paris climate accords

Withdrew the US from the Iranian nuclear deal

Withdrew the US from the Trans Pacific Partnership which was designed to block China’s advances

Insulted his own Cabinet members on Twitter

Pushed the leader of Montenegro out of the way during a photo op

Failed to reiterate US commitment to defending NATO allies

Called Haiti and African nations “shithole” countries

Called the city of Baltimore the “worst in the nation"

Claimed that he single handedly brought back the phrase “Merry Christmas” even though it hadn’t gone anywhere

Forced his Cabinet members to praise him publicly like some cult leader

Believed he should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

Berated and belittled his hand-picked Attorney General when he recused himself from the Russia probe

Suggested the US should buy Greenland

Colluded with Mitch McConnell to push through federal judges and two Supreme Court justices after supporting efforts to prevent his predecessor from appointing judges

Repeatedly called the media “enemies of the people"

Claimed that if we tested fewer people for COVID we’d have fewer cases

Violated the emoluments clause

Told Bob Woodward in private that the coronavirus was a big deal but then downplayed it in public

Called his exceedingly faithful vice president a “p---y” for following the Constitution

Nearly got us into a war with Iran after threatening them by tweet

Nominated a corrupt head of the EPA

Nominated a corrupt head of HHS

Nominated a corrupt head of the Interior Department

Nominated a corrupt head of the USDA

Praised dictators and authoritarians around the world while criticizing allies

Refused to allow the presidential transition to begin

Insulted war hero John McCain – even after his death

Spent an obscene amount of time playing golf after criticizing Barack Obama for playing (far less) golf while president

Falsely claimed that he won the 2016 popular vote

Falsely claimed that he turned down being Time’s Man of the Year

Considered firing special counsel Robert Mueller on several occasions

Mocked wearing face masks to guard against transmitting COVID

Locked Congress out of its constitutional duty to confirm Cabinet officials by hiring acting ones

Used a racist dog whistle by calling COVID the “China virus"

Hired and associated with numerous shady figures that were eventually convicted of federal offenses including his campaign manager and national security adviser

Pardoned several of his shady associates

Gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to two congressman who amplified his batshit crazy conspiracy theories

Got into telephone fight with the leader of Australia(!)

Had a Secretary of State who called him a moron

Forced his press secretary to claim without merit that his was the largest inauguration crowd in history

Botched the COVID vaccine rollout

Tweeted so much dangerous propaganda that Twitter eventually banned him

Charged the Secret Service jacked-up rates at his properties

Constantly interrupted Joe Biden in their first presidential debate

Claimed that COVID would “magically” disappear

Called a U.S. Senator “Pocahontas"

Used his Twitter account to blast Nordstrom when it stopped selling Ivanka’s merchandise

Opened up millions of pristine federal lands to development and drilling

Got into a losing tariff war with China that forced US taxpayers to bail out farmers

Claimed that his losing tariff war was a win for the US

Ignored or didn’t even take part in daily intelligence briefings

Blew off honoring American war dead in France because it was raining

Redesigned Air Force One to look like the Trump Shuttle

Got played by Kim Jung Un and his “love letters"

Threatened to go after social media companies in clear violation of the Constitution

Botched the response to Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico

Threw paper towels and toilet paper at Puerto Ricans when he finally visited them

Pressured the governor and secretary of state of Georgia to “find” him votes

Thought that the Virgin islands had a President

Drew on a map with a Sharpie to justify his inaccurate tweet that Alabama was threatened by a hurricane

Allowed White House staff to use personal email accounts for official businesses after blasting Hillary Clinton for doing the same thing

Rolled back regulations that protected the public from mercury and asbestos

Pushed regulators to waste time studying snake-oil remedies for COVID

Rolled back regulations that stopped coal companies from dumping waste into rivers

Held blatant campaign rallies at the White House

Tried to take away millions of Americans’ health insurance because the law was named for a Black man

Refused to attend his successors’ inauguration

Nominated the worst Education Secretary in history

Threatened judges who didn’t do what he wanted

Attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci

Promised that Mexico would pay for the wall (it didn’t)

Called an African-American Congresswoman “low IQ"

Threatened to withhold federal aid from states and cities with Democratic leaders

Went ahead with rallies filled with maskless supporters in the middle of a pandemic

Claimed that legitimate investigations of his wrongdoing were “witch hunts"

Seemed to demonstrate a belief that there were airports during the American Revolution

Demanded “total loyalty” from the FBI director

Praised a conspiracy theory that Democrats are Satanic pedophiles

Completely gutted the Voice of America

Placed a political hack in charge of the Postal Service

Claimed without evidence that the Obama administration bugged Trump Tower

Suggested that the US should allow more people from places like Norway into the country

Suggested that COVID wasn’t that bad because he recovered with the help of top government doctors and treatments not available to the public
what's the very worst one do you suppose?

or are these all made up?

if you can't name the worst one, they're all made up.
 
No, I made an accurate observation. Have you perused that list? There are so many blatant, outright lies, misquotes, complete fictions, non sequiturs, and other bullshit in that list it hurts. Sure, Trump has some serious foibles and says and does some stupid things, but all Presidents do. He's not particularly notable--other than by the Left who hates him with a passion--in any of those respects.

But the list has enough bullshit in it to supply methane to the world for decades.
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",,,so many blatant, outright lies, misquotes, complete fictions, non sequiturs, and other bullshit in that list it hurts" is exactly what ultra Alt Right Maga does. Justify your statement above, T. A., with solid sourcing.
Someone has to help T. A. Gardner with understanding humor.

(Amazing, isn't it, that a Trump supporter would use "lying" in any form as a defense for Trump. FOR TRUMP OF ALL PEOPLE. Truly amazing.)
 
No, this particular statement about Trump hiring Guiliani is an irrelevance. Why is it on a list of "bad" things Trump has done?


You clearly don't know the difference between a legal immigrant, and a valid refugee. That's the problem here. Why should, for example as you bring up, the US take refugees from a war zone on that basis alone? We have no reason to whatsoever. Let them deal with their political issues in their country not evade them by coming here.


I have a problem with the greentard agenda. It has proven itself wrong nearly 100% of the time, and has been an economic disaster as well. Why should I see Trump hiring people that are opposed to that agenda as a negative?







So, as usual, YOU are the one full of shit.




No, it doesn't. It also means that the things listed are not necessarily "bad" on Trump's part. You want it one way, your way. I have room for differing opinions.



The lifetime prevalence of suicidal ideation among transgender and nonbinary people was 50%, the lifetime prevalence of suicide attempt was 29%, and the lifetime prevalence of non-suicidal self-injury was 47%.


Data shows that a high percentage of those who consider suicide proceed to an attempt. The same Williams Institute study found that 42% of transgender adults have attempted suicide at some point. Other meta-analyses have found suicide attempt rates among transgender people to range from 32% to 50% across various countries. These figures underscore the severity of the issue.


The increased medical requirements for things like hormone replacement, etc., are self evident.


Have you been to Haiti? I have! It's a shithole. If the world needed an enema, that's where you'd stick the hose in. Been to African countries too. They're pretty big shitholes too. Not on the scale of Haiti, but still up there.


Doesn't change my argument. You are just making trivial objections here.


Right back at ya, only with actual facts, so in your face, asshole!
Thank you for the sources.
 
No, this particular statement about Trump hiring Guiliani is an irrelevance. Why is it on a list of "bad" things Trump has done?
Are you arguing that Guiliani was a great lawyer? He was a shit lawyer. He got disbarred for his actions.
You clearly don't know the difference between a legal immigrant, and a valid refugee. That's the problem here. Why should, for example as you bring up, the US take refugees from a war zone on that basis alone? We have no reason to whatsoever. Let them deal with their political issues in their country not evade them by coming here.
I know the difference. The statement you are disputing was this -
Reduced the number of refugees the US accepts
It seems you want to double down on your stupidity and prove you are a complete a-hole by demanding that women and children stay in war zones.

I have a problem with the greentard agenda. It has proven itself wrong nearly 100% of the time, and has been an economic disaster as well. Why should I see Trump hiring people that are opposed to that agenda as a negative?
So you have an opinion that is based on no facts. Good for you. It doesn't dispute the opinion in the OP. Why has the cost of electricity gone up under Trump if you think he is correct?
As usual you didn't bother to read your sources.

several reputable sources and veterans’ advocates continue to cite the original allegations
Trump’s own former chief of staff John Kelly previously confirmed Trump called dead veterans “suckers” back in 2018.

No, it doesn't. It also means that the things listed are not necessarily "bad" on Trump's part. You want it one way, your way. I have room for differing opinions.



The lifetime prevalence of suicidal ideation among transgender and nonbinary people was 50%, the lifetime prevalence of suicide attempt was 29%, and the lifetime prevalence of non-suicidal self-injury was 47%.


Data shows that a high percentage of those who consider suicide proceed to an attempt. The same Williams Institute study found that 42% of transgender adults have attempted suicide at some point. Other meta-analyses have found suicide attempt rates among transgender people to range from 32% to 50% across various countries. These figures underscore the severity of the issue.
ROFLMAO. I see you have gone from 50% commit suicide to 50% think about committing suicide. Would you care to address you sudden shift from your original statement?

The increased medical requirements for things like hormone replacement, etc., are self evident.
Except the cost isn't what you think it is. You are simply making shit up and then convincing yourself it is true.
Have you been to Haiti? I have! It's a shithole. If the world needed an enema, that's where you'd stick the hose in. Been to African countries too. They're pretty big shitholes too. Not on the scale of Haiti, but still up there.
Mar-a-Lago is a shithole and yet you elected the guy that lives there.
Doesn't change my argument. You are just making trivial objections here.


Right back at ya, only with actual facts, so in your face, asshole!
You are not even making trivial objections. You are simply flat out lying to yourself and us.
 
Are you arguing that Guiliani was a great lawyer? He was a shit lawyer. He got disbarred for his actions.

I am arguing that Trump gets to pick his personal lawyers. If he picks a shitty one--is there any other kind?--that's on him.
I know the difference. The statement you are disputing was this -
Reduced the number of refugees the US accepts
It seems you want to double down on your stupidity and prove you are a complete a-hole by demanding that women and children stay in war zones.

No, I'm not refuting it, I'm saying that's a good thing. If you live in a country that ends up in a war for whatever reason, that doesn't place any obligation whatsoever on the US to take refugees of that war.

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So you have an opinion that is based on no facts. Good for you. It doesn't dispute the opinion in the OP. Why has the cost of electricity gone up under Trump if you think he is correct?

No, I base that on facts. Wind and solar are proving expensive failures worldwide. The cost of electricity using them as a major power source skyrockets, it doesn't get cheaper. The whole carbon thing is proving both a canard and idiocy as well. The greentards are exactly that.
As usual you didn't bother to read your sources.

several reputable sources and veterans’ advocates continue to cite the original allegations
Trump’s own former chief of staff John Kelly previously confirmed Trump called dead veterans “suckers” back in 2018.

Cherry picking on your part.
ROFLMAO. I see you have gone from 50% commit suicide to 50% think about committing suicide. Would you care to address you sudden shift from your original statement?

So, you think it's a good thing to allow people, half of which contemplate suicide as you claim, be put into the military, a high stress environment that would only exacerbate that issue? Would you care to discuss why you resorted to trivial objections?
Except the cost isn't what you think it is. You are simply making shit up and then convincing yourself it is true.

Are you claiming that transpersons don't require more medical attention? That includes psychiatric care.

Mar-a-Lago is a shithole and yet you elected the guy that lives there.

Okay, you're entitled to your meaningless opinion.
You are not even making trivial objections. You are simply flat out lying to yourself and us.

You wish.

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Listing facts is not a sign of TDS. Your predictable response is a sign of TBS. This is not all the incompetent asshole Trump has done. It does not talk about a man who governs with fear and cruelty. That perhaps is the worst part. People like you voted for a cruel and vicious man 2 times.
 
Listing facts is not a sign of TDS. Your predictable response is a sign of TBS. This is not all the incompetent asshole Trump has done. It does not talk about a man who governs with fear and cruelty. That perhaps is the worst part. People like you voted for a cruel and vicious man 2 times.
Then try and list some next time!
 
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