My advice: Be rich.

My advice to my kids is to find something they love, if you love something, there is always a way to calculate it toward making money. Steve Jobs turned his love of Calligraphy into a huge computer business.

A good perspective.

If getting rich enough to retire when one turns 50 were easy, everyone would be doing it. The fact is 99.9 percent of people are going to have to work past 50, no matter how hard they try to save. Life is just to unpredictable to make leaps of faith, like anticipating a life of leisure after your 49th birthday.

That is focusing on the wrong things. A flourishing life is going to come down to being true to yourself, being true to others, and being true to your interests and passions.
 
Good advice. Unfortunately, because he's so young, my g-son thinks that being rich equates to large fancy house, expensive new car(s), designer wardrobe, etc. His mom is very much that way which doesn't help. I think your advice to live within your means and save any extra is very wise.

Yup, that is the warning sign. Don't worry, he will learn, over time.
 
My advice to my kids is to find something they love, if you love something, there is always a way to calculate it toward making money. Steve Jobs turned his love of Calligraphy into a huge computer business.

That is some of the best advise I have seen in this forum. Steve Jobs was not able to pay for college, so just started attending random classes, including calligraphy. He got random knowledge in all sorts of useful things.

Republicans would have us cut education to just the things they think are useful. I doubt calligraphy would be one of them.
 
My advice to my kids is to find something they love, if you love something, there is always a way to calculate it toward making money. Steve Jobs turned his love of Calligraphy into a huge computer business.

How many Steve Jobs are out there? I have three relatives (children of first cousins) who have a love for acting. They got their degrees in something related. All three are well into their 30’s and early 40’s, have jobs related to acting, yet all three are still dependent on their parents for support. The youngest of the three has returned to school to become a dental hygienist.
 
That is some of the best advise I have seen in this forum. Steve Jobs was not able to pay for college, so just started attending random classes, including calligraphy. He got random knowledge in all sorts of useful things.

Republicans would have us cut education to just the things they think are useful. I doubt calligraphy would be one of them.

LOL, like where do you even come up with that?
 
What do you consider "rich?" How much money and 'stuff' do you need to have to be rich? Is being worth more than a million rich?
For people chasing the Almighty Dollar as their goal to happiness, no amount is ever enough. Look at Pedo Don for an example.

Also consider that all the yuppies and guppies who realized that money was not the key to happiness after 9/11. Money is a necessity up to a point, but what is that point? A new Beemer for the wife every other year? The biggest house in the neighborhood? Or just contentment? Living a modest lifestyle while seeking things money can’t buy?
 
LOL, like where do you even come up with that?


Because they’ve been doing it since the 1980s. Conversely, the Democrats think taking money from the Magical Money Tree and providing a $100K college education for French Lit, Modern Dance and Basketweaving majors is a sound fiscal policy.

Vote Libertarian and let’s vote these assholes out of office.

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For people chasing the Almighty Dollar as their goal to happiness, no amount is ever enough. Look at Pedo Don for an example.

Trump isn't about money to happiness. He's about being in 'the game.' I know his kind. Like Musk, Trump is about doing stuff and the bigger the project, the bigger the challenge, the more they want into it. I understand them, because I'm a lot like that myself only not as driven.

Also consider that all the yuppies and guppies who realized that money was not the key to happiness after 9/11. Money is a necessity up to a point, but what is that point? A new Beemer for the wife every other year? The biggest house in the neighborhood? Or just contentment? Living a modest lifestyle while seeking things money can’t buy?

There is that sort, but to the type like Musk and Trump, the goal isn't money. That comes with success from their projects. They derive their happiness from chasing the project. The grander, the crazier, the more complex the scheme, the more they eat it up. I'm nowhere near their level of driven in that sort of thing, but I know just how they think because I'm much the same way.

Everybody around you thinks you're an insane nutjob until you start succeeding. Then they want to glom onboard your success. Failure isn't an option and you usually don't. Even if you do, you just pick yourself up and go at it again.

As a personal example, that's how I ended up brokering a deal as a mere E-7 /Chief in the Navy with an Air Force Coronel, a GS-15 project manager, a GS-12 engineer, and an SES executive service Pentagon type to manufacture the first batch of ADU-801E SLAM/ER adapter assemblies for the entire US military while fixing their various issues. It was a win-win for everybody. It was all about the deal and organizing the production to be successful.
I think the best part was my re-engineering the rubber pad on one part to reduce production time from about 6 hours to 10 minutes and saving over a million dollars in the process.

Musk and Trump are exactly the same way. I can see Trump more interested in draining the swamp simple because it's a challenge than gaining power or money. Those who want power and money, along with establishment bureaucrat insiders, absolutely HATE people like that. I've experienced that first hand too.
 
Trump isn't about money to happiness. He's about being in 'the game.' I know his kind. Like Musk, Trump is about doing stuff and the bigger the project, the bigger the challenge, the more they want into it. I understand them, because I'm a lot like that myself only not as driven.



There is that sort, but to the type like Musk and Trump, the goal isn't money. That comes with success from their projects. They derive their happiness from chasing the project. The grander, the crazier, the more complex the scheme, the more they eat it up. I'm nowhere near their level of driven in that sort of thing, but I know just how they think because I'm much the same way.

Everybody around you thinks you're an insane nutjob until you start succeeding. Then they want to glom onboard your success. Failure isn't an option and you usually don't. Even if you do, you just pick yourself up and go at it again.

As a personal example, that's how I ended up brokering a deal as a mere E-7 /Chief in the Navy with an Air Force Coronel, a GS-15 project manager, a GS-12 engineer, and an SES executive service Pentagon type to manufacture the first batch of ADU-801E SLAM/ER adapter assemblies for the entire US military while fixing their various issues. It was a win-win for everybody. It was all about the deal and organizing the production to be successful.
I think the best part was my re-engineering the rubber pad on one part to reduce production time from about 6 hours to 10 minutes and saving over a million dollars in the process.

Musk and Trump are exactly the same way. I can see Trump more interested in draining the swamp simple because it's a challenge than gaining power or money. Those who want power and money, along with establishment bureaucrat insiders, absolutely HATE people like that. I've experienced that first hand too.
Dude, Musk is in space, Trump leaves a trail of human and physical wreckage in his wake. They are not the same type of personality.

You’re free to chase the Almighty Dollar and consider your Life Success score as measured by the size of your wallet, but I disagree. There are larger issues involved than personal gratification. Results count.
 
With graduation season looming and a friend of mine working on a commencement speech, I was thinking about what advice I'd offer to a graduating class. Usually such speeches tend to go with touch-feely "take the road less traveled" advice. I hate to admit it, but if I were framing my advice not in terms of what is best for the country and the world, but just in terms of what is best for the graduates, my urgent advice would be to earn a lot of money in a hurry.

Easier said than done, right? Yes. But even if that weren't an issue, my advice definitely would be different today than several decades ago. Back in the 1950's and 1960's, there were huge injustices in this country, mostly based on race, gender, and sexuality. But when it came to something you had some control over --how much money you'd make-- the stakes weren't so high. In 1965, the average CEO earned about 15 times as much as an average worker. The gap between a typical worker and a typical executive was even smaller. Thanks to federal income taxes of up to 70% on the top bracket, the gap was even smaller when it came to after-tax pay. And for the most part, at least within racial units, the rich lived in the same basic neighborhoods as the middle class, sent their kids to the same schools, and lived very similar lives.

These days, though, the average CEO makes 351 times as much as the average worker. The gap is huge even between typical executives and average people. The rich live in private gated communities with their own security, and no need to care about crime in other areas. The rich send their kids to private schools, with no need to care if public schools fall apart. They have multiple homes, with the ability to flee climate disasters. They lead fundamentally different lives.

That gap is eroding democracy, too. These days, politicians can largely neglect the interests of the majority, since gerrymandering has effectively created a class of suburban/rural super-voters. Time and again we see the majority in a state vote Democrat, and then a majority of seats go to the Republicans. In Wisconsin, in 2018, Democrats got 18% more votes than Republicans in the state assembly elections. The result was Republicans getting 75% more seats than the Democrats. Meanwhile, traditional news is being supplanted by social media controlled by a handful of white, male tech-bro billionaires, where they'll have the power to drive public opinion and ultimately public policy for the ultra rich.

In the 1960s, there was an argument to be made that an individual would live a happier, fuller life following his bliss rather than following the dollars. If you, say, loved teaching, then there was a solid middle-class existence you could choose that way, with community respect and a life not too terribly different from the life some classmate might lead if he became a banker, instead. But now, you'd be signing up for a whole different existence.... and a real possibility of a future of poverty and exploitation at the hands of a plutocracy. At this point, money isn't just about getting yourself a few little luxuries the masses won't have. It's about defending against existential threats.

My advice to you: Get a fucking job, hosehead. Have you ever worked a day in your life?
 
Dude, Musk is in space, Trump leaves a trail of human and physical wreckage in his wake. They are not the same type of personality.

You’re free to chase the Almighty Dollar and consider your Life Success score as measured by the size of your wallet, but I disagree. There are larger issues involved than personal gratification. Results count.
Agreed, most billionaires also pretend to be philanthropic and care about the poor or diseased, but the Trump’s created charities to steal from them. They are the worst of the worst.
 
Hello Mina,

I'd have agreed with you in 1965, for sure. But the economy is becoming a bit more like the economic structure of Hollywood actors.

In Hollywood, the vast majority of actors make pretty much no money. They work as waiters and such, and get out-earned even by real waiters, because they're constantly losing jobs because they ducked out to audition for a part, or to work for a week in some scale-pay bit part. Even a lot of "working actors" who can regularly book small roles don't live much better than a poverty level, because they're living in a hyper-expensive area as economic free agents, meaning no benefits and no security. But then, there's this tiny sliver on top of that which can make hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars for a few weeks' work.

I think the overall economy is moving that way -- or at least greatly at risk of moving that way.... that there will end up being few of those "middle class" jobs where your basic needs are met well enough that you can be happy. It could wind up a lot more like a lottery, where either you win big, or you get nothing but misery.

We are headed that way, true, but we are long way from the destination. There is still a very large and healthy middle, and happiness is achievable without great wealth.

True, it is harder to find as the ruthless wealth-seeking corporations cut off all avenues they can possibly find, but as that dynamic is in play, so is human creativity and ingenuity. It is still possible to rise to moderate wealth without being CEO.

The Hollywood analogy is a good one. Reminds me of the music industry, which is much the same. Entertainment and art are not typically lucrative for most workers. Question:

What do you call a guitar player with no girlfriend?

Answer:

Homeless.

Aside from the stardom-or-pauper world, there is lot more. Many high-skilled functions are needed by the big corporate world. Sales, marketing, engineering, research, finance, insurance, accounting, production, teaching, mid-level management. Small business and franchising also make a lot of mortgage payments for middle America, buying dreams one solid paycheck at a time.

I know some entrepreneurs who have done well. One of them began by trying to do a healthy snack shop, selling muffins with whole food ingredients. Great for society, but not what the market really wanted. Soon it was discovered that sugary donuts are just too irresistible. They sold well, so the business was converted to give people what they want. Soon after that, additional locations had to opened, workers hired. Another entrepreneur acquaintance came up with a mixture of chemicals that did a good job of cleaning roofs when applied with a pressure washer. That turned out to be a hit and more workers had to be hired to meet demand. Yet another is a small construction contractor who simply does a good dedicated job and never has to advertise. That business is booked up a half-year out. Word-of-mouth keeps the orders coming in for remodeled bathrooms, kitchens, room additions, etc.

None of these workers are getting ultra-wealthy. They are the heartbeat of middle America.

I think it makes more sense to chase after the readily-achievable middle wealth of ample happiness than to enter a field where only a small fraction of people dominate and the rest have little to nothing.

The American dream remains the same. Find work that delivers respectable regular paychecks. Save up a down payment. Get a mortgage and work toward paying off a house. That is the primary way to American success. Get that house paid off, get those years in, pay in to Social Security and Medicare, qualify for benefits and get some savings tucked away. That is the recipe for an enjoyable retirement by the time that age is reached. Let good times with family and friends be the circle of personal happiness.

If an individual just gets that paycheck and mortgage by age 40 or so, a good life in the middle is achievable. 25-30 years is all it takes to pay off that house. Presto. American dream in the lap. Happiness knowing that doing so is being a productive contributing member of society.

Has it gotten harder? Yes, no doubt. Is it still achievable? Yes, no doubt.
 
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