“Multiple people hurt in shooting at Chiefs' victory parade”

archives said:
“KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Shots were fired at the end of the Kansas City Chiefs' Super Bowl parade Wednesday, injuring eight to 10 people, a fire official said. Fans were urged to exit the area as quickly as possible”

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39525845/multiple-people-hurt-shooting-chiefs-victory-parade
https://www.kmbc.com/article/shooti...city-chiefs-super-bowl-victory-rally/46790065

Guess we can now add celebratory parades to churches, parks, schools, malls, spa, senior citizen centers, restaurants, concerts, synagogues, movies, grocery stores, shopping centers, trains, etc, opps, my bad, eight people were killed via guns at a parade a year and half ago

Where can a person go now days without having to think about some gun toting guy with a grudge unexpectedly start shooting

And the right’s solution, we need more guns and easier access to more guns
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Where were the good guys with guns?
 
No mention of the people in custody... I imagine if it was juveniles they would have just said that juveniles were in custody but there's no mention...even from the people who tackled the end of individual...very strange... a young mother loses her life because of an argument? Just recently a grandfather lost his life in the parking lot of a Walmart because he bumped his car into another and got out to apologize and was shot in the face...and killed... this isn't a gun problem this is a people problem...
 
Doc Dutch said:
Where were the good guys with guns?
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The thing about this is that most were probably abiding by the law. Most cc people, like me, are aware where they can “lawfully” carry and try to comply with such. I do not know the particulars of the law as it pertains to the parade and if the overseeing officials indeed permitted carrying, then what I am typing has no bearing on this particular case. I do know that even small venues/towns there are laws either by the state or municipality like the one noted here for NC…

https://www.ncleg.gov/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/BySection/Chapter_14/GS_14-277.2.pdf

I haven’t looked but I would suspect in a city like KC there would be a similar ordinance.

My point is this: The shooters [very, very likely] broke the law before they carried out the act of shooting.

Yet when you search for articles covering the crime a vast majority of the writers focus on “lax gun laws” in Missouri or the need for gun bans and not on the 3 idiots they have in custody.

You already know this but I’ll add it for others … I am not willing to give up second amendment rights because idiots commit crimes with guns. I am not willing to support politicians who would pass laws that would only prevent people like me from being armed, nor am I voting for any politician who would use my proxy to vote to take away those rights to make the US, eventually, like GB, Australia, etc. as it pertains to guns.
 
leaningright said:
The thing about this is that most were probably abiding by the law. Most cc people, like me, are aware where they can “lawfully” carry and try to comply with such. I do not know the particulars of the law as it pertains to the parade and if the overseeing officials indeed permitted carrying, then what I am typing has no bearing on this particular case. I do know that even small venues/towns there are laws either by the state or municipality like the one noted here for NC…

https://www.ncleg.gov/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/BySection/Chapter_14/GS_14-277.2.pdf

I haven’t looked but I would suspect in a city like KC there would be a similar ordinance.

My point is this: The shooters [very, very likely] broke the law before they carried out the act of shooting.

Yet when you search for articles covering the crime a vast majority of the writers focus on “lax gun laws” in Missouri or the need for gun bans and not on the 3 idiots they have in custody.

You already know this but I’ll add it for others … I am not willing to give up second amendment rights because idiots commit crimes with guns. I am not willing to support politicians who would pass laws that would only prevent people like me from being armed, nor am I voting for any politician who would use my proxy to vote to take away those rights to make the US, eventually, like GB, Australia, etc. as it pertains to guns.
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Agreed certain venues restrict CC, but a parade is a public street. I don't know Missouri law on the issue.

Agreed about restricting American rights due to the actions of a view idiots or even a single idiot. Most of these issues are related to mental illness, such as the Joel Osteen church shooting or gang-bangers. Better to have better mental health care and supporting legislation along with solving gang problems.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...S&cvid=01a9b32c16af438e95e70cd1f5227fd4&ei=30
The Shooter's Family Was Begging for Intervention Before She Opened Fire at a Megachurch
On Sunday, a 37-year old woman named Genesee Moreno showed up at Lakewood Church with both her seven-year old son and her AR-15 in tow. She set up a firefight with two off-duty cops that ended up with Moreno dead, her son in critical condition with a gunshot wound in the head, and a bystander slightly wounded in the leg. The subsequent investigation has revealed Moreno to be quite insane. From CNN:
“My daughter-in-law when she was taking medication for schizophrenia was a very sweet and loving woman,” Walli Carranza, the mother-in-law of 36-year-old Genesse Ivonne Moreno wrote in a Facebook post that Moreno had been put under an order for emotional detention in 2016. She had a mental health history documented by Houston police, said Christopher Hassig, commander of the Houston Police Department’s homicide division. Carranza, the shooter’s mother-in-law, had unsuccessfully petitioned to be declared conservator of Moreno’s son Sam in 2022. She said Sam was wounded in the head when off-duty officers shot and killed Moreno at the church. Moreno should never have been allowed to own firearms, her mother-in-law said. Texas has no red flag law – also known as an extreme risk protection order law – that would allow authorities to take weapons from a person thought to be in crisis.“​
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leaningright said:
The thing about this is that most were probably abiding by the law. Most cc people, like me, are aware where they can “lawfully” carry and try to comply with such. I do not know the particulars of the law as it pertains to the parade and if the overseeing officials indeed permitted carrying, then what I am typing has no bearing on this particular case. I do know that even small venues/towns there are laws either by the state or municipality like the one noted here for NC…

https://www.ncleg.gov/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/BySection/Chapter_14/GS_14-277.2.pdf

I haven’t looked but I would suspect in a city like KC there would be a similar ordinance.

My point is this: The shooters [very, very likely] broke the law before they carried out the act of shooting.

Yet when you search for articles covering the crime a vast majority of the writers focus on “lax gun laws” in Missouri or the need for gun bans and not on the 3 idiots they have in custody.

You already know this but I’ll add it for others … I am not willing to give up second amendment rights because idiots commit crimes with guns. I am not willing to support politicians who would pass laws that would only prevent people like me from being armed, nor am I voting for any politician who would use my proxy to vote to take away those rights to make the US, eventually, like GB, Australia, etc. as it pertains to guns.
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[FONT=&quot]“The Kansas City Sports Commission’s website did not specify any firearms restrictions for the 2024 Super Bowl parade.”

https://amp.kansascity.com/news/local/article285488917.html

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TOP said:
No mention of the people in custody... I imagine if it was juveniles they would have just said that juveniles were in custody but there's no mention...even from the people who tackled the end of individual...very strange... a young mother loses her life because of an argument? Just recently a grandfather lost his life in the parking lot of a Walmart because he bumped his car into another and got out to apologize and was shot in the face...and killed... this isn't a gun problem this is a people problem...
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People can’t shoot anyone without a gun, can’t control people, but you can access to guns
 
leaningright said:
The thing about this is that most were probably abiding by the law. Most cc people, like me, are aware where they can “lawfully” carry and try to comply with such. I do not know the particulars of the law as it pertains to the parade and if the overseeing officials indeed permitted carrying, then what I am typing has no bearing on this particular case. I do know that even small venues/towns there are laws either by the state or municipality like the one noted here for NC…

https://www.ncleg.gov/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/BySection/Chapter_14/GS_14-277.2.pdf

I haven’t looked but I would suspect in a city like KC there would be a similar ordinance.

My point is this: The shooters [very, very likely] broke the law before they carried out the act of shooting.

Yet when you search for articles covering the crime a vast majority of the writers focus on “lax gun laws” in Missouri or the need for gun bans and not on the 3 idiots they have in custody.

You already know this but I’ll add it for others … I am not willing to give up second amendment rights because idiots commit crimes with guns. I am not willing to support politicians who would pass laws that would only prevent people like me from being armed, nor am I voting for any politician who would use my proxy to vote to take away those rights to make the US, eventually, like GB, Australia, etc. as it pertains to guns.
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You just made the case for regulating access to guns
 
archives said:
People can’t shoot anyone without a gun, can’t control people, but you can access to guns
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Again this isn't a gun problem it's a people problem... it's nearly impossible to prevent someone from getting a gun illegally if they truly want one... if you have enough money or something to trade for it I'm sure you could find one today...or this weekend at the very least...
 
Lionfish said:
Poor anchovies,

Show us again. I could use one as an example for our classes.
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Easy, just go to sites as Armslist or several others, agree to the terms to follow all laws by simply checking the box “I consent,” and you are on your way. Just make it a private sale, think Craigslist for guns, and don’t cross State lines in any of the transactions. Piece of cake
 
RB 60 said:
Why not teach a little self respect and dignity?



Bullshit.
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Wrong, it is not difficult, just go to sites as Armslist or several others, agree to the terms to follow all laws by simply checking the box “I consent,” and you are on your way. Just make it a private sale, think Craigslist for guns, and don’t cross State lines in any of the transactions.
 
TOP said:
Again this isn't a gun problem it's a people problem... it's nearly impossible to prevent someone from getting a gun illegally if they truly want one... if you have enough money or something to trade for it I'm sure you could find one today...or this weekend at the very least...
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And again, you can not control people, you have no clue who the next shooter will be or where it will occur, the only predictable variable in all mass shootings is the gun, and you control that via regulation
 
archives said:
Wrong, it is not difficult, just go to sites as Armslist or several others, agree to the terms to follow all laws by simply checking the box “I consent,” and you are on your way. Just make it a private sale, think Craigslist for guns, and don’t cross State lines in any of the transactions.
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You know Armslist can't just mail you a gun, right? It has to go through a licensed seller, a FFL, who runs a background check?

Private sales are different and limited to personal collections, not someone who is constantly selling guns under the table. Add to this, what person wants a gun with their name on it to end up in the hands of criminals?
 
archives said:
And again, you can not control people, you have no clue who the next shooter will be or where it will occur, the only predictable variable in all mass shootings is the gun, and you control that via regulation
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Once again you can't stop anyone from getting a gun illegally if they really want one... I have no problem with background checks... as you may have noticed parents were charged and convicted when they were irresponsible in the way they handled a gun purchase... Ask a few more follow-ups as I said it's a people not the gun... if I wanted to legally purchase gun today I would have to go through the process... if I wanted to purchase a gun illegally today it wouldn't take long...
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Listen up you reckless careless asshole, a very large overwhelming majority of our population want to see some no-nonsense sensible Gun Laws. Even most Responsible Republican Gun owners!

And when Biden wins the White House again in November, and the Democrats OWN both sides of Congress again because of the weak Republican candidates being offered up in this cycle, WE INTEND TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.

SO you have been formally warned.

Yesterday's shooting in KC has put sensible gun laws back on the ballot in 2024. The shooters were obviously under 18 or we would have already known the identity of the shooters. So, this had to be juvenile delinquents that had some easy access to weapons. This was not anything other than some juvenile delinquents, with easy access to guns, with criminal intent running amuck in our society- meanwhile another life was taken, and 22 people were seriously wounded, with 9 or more being between 5 and 15 years old.

SO, FUCK YOU GUN-TARD- WE'LL FIX THIS!

We intend to restore sensible and legal gun ownership in this country- BECAUSE IT IS TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL NOW!
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name one 'sensible' gun law that will prevent all criminals from obtaining a firearm. we'll wait
 
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