Mubarak blames U.S.

[Big Money]

In a series of extraordinarily candid conversations, Mubarak, who was ousted after mass protests in 2011, holds forth on a wide range of subjects, including his own removal from power, which he blames on his ostensible ally, the United States.






http://world.time.com/2013/09/23/egypts-mubarak-blames-u-s-for-his-downfall/#ixzz2fjAdTtrg

 

[evince]

they don't call him hoser for nothing

 

[Big Money]

they don't call him hoser for nothing

Why do you hate him?

Did he flush some wipes, or something?

 

[evince]

why do you champion him?

 

[Big Money]

why do you champion him?

I don't.

Why do you hate him?

 

[Jarod]

He was a ruthless dictator who the U.S. Propped up as long as he served our interest in subjugating the Egyptian people.

 

[monty1]

I don't.

Why do you hate him?

And what are you going to do with your life today? Start 10 or 15 new threads about Obama and post a couple of hundred times in order to keep people paying attention to you?

 

[Big Money]

He was a ruthless dictator who the U.S. Propped up as long as he served our interest in subjugating the Egyptian people.

Are you saying Obama used him and then tossed him aside?

 

[Jarod]

Are you saying Obama used him and then tossed him aside?

Many U.S. Presidents did, I don't know for sure about Obama. I think Obama set the wheels in motion for the U.S. to step away from what we had been supporting in Egypt. I am not sure if it naturally took that long, or if that represented a change in President Obama's position on Egypt.

 

[Big Money]

Many U.S. Presidents did, I don't know for sure about Obama. I think Obama set the wheels in motion for the U.S. to step away from what we had been supporting in Egypt. I am not sure if it naturally took that long, or if that represented a change in President Obama's position on Egypt.

It doesn't look as though Obama was opposed to Mubarak in these photos, does it?

 

[Jarod]

It doesn't look as though Obama was opposed to Mubarak in these photos, does it?

It does not, and as I said I don't know... But I am sure as shit not going to base my opinion or some photo-op diplomacy photos of the President with the leader of our best ally in the Middle East.

 

[Big Money]

It does not, and as I said I don't know... But I am sure as shit not going to base my opinion or some photo-op diplomacy photos of the President with the leader of our best ally in the Middle East.

So seeing is not believing?

 

[Jarod]

So seeing is not believing?

I believe those people stood together and did those things, I don't believe you can derive the meaning you are suggesting by that fact.

 

[Big Money]

I believe those people stood together and did those things, I don't believe you can derive the meaning you are suggesting by that fact.

What meaning am I suggesting?

 

[Jarod]

What meaning am I suggesting?

That President Obama was friendly with Mubark or was helping to prop him up.

If I am wrong, you tell me, why post those photos?

 

[Big Money]

That President Obama was friendly with Mubark or was helping to prop him up. If I am wrong, you tell me, why post those photos?

Do pictures of Obama and Mubarak smiling together have a hidden meaning to you? Earlier you said this:

I am sure as shit not going to base my opinion or some photo-op diplomacy photos of the President with the leader of our best ally in the Middle East.

 

[Jarod]

Do pictures of Obama and Mubarak smiling together have a hidden meaning to you? Earlier you said this:

They do not have any meaning to me. What is the meaning to you?

 

[Big Money]

They do not have any meaning to me. What is the meaning to you?

The meaning they have to me is exactly what you see.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Aren't you the one that stated that Mubarak was the leader of our best ally in the Middle East?

 

[Jarod]

The meaning they have to me is exactly what you see.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Aren't you the one that stated that Mubarak was the leader of our best ally in the Middle East?

He was, he is not any longer. In my opinion, propping up a dictator who is ruthless with his people for our own short-term best interests is harmful to our long term interests. I am happy we can agree on the fact that the photos are meaningless then to our discussion.

 

[Big Money]

He was, he is not any longer. In my opinion, propping up a dictator who is ruthless with his people for our own short-term best interests is harmful to our long term interests. I am happy we can agree on the fact that the photos are meaningless then to our discussion.

Can we agree that meddling in the internal affairs of other nations is wrong?