Mu variant

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Darth Omar

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1433611201347530756

This is Fauci talking so you have to take it with a grain of salt.

The Mu variant was first identified in Columbia but that’s just where it was first identified—it could have literally evolved anywhere. Speaking of evolved, I have yet to hear an explanation as to why vaccine induced selection pressure is never mentioned as a possible reason for the explosion of variants.

Fauci goes on to suggest that a third jab is a strong possibility but then assures us that the third jab will be the final jab.
 
Darth Omar said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1433611201347530756

This is Fauci talking so you have to take it with a grain of salt.

The Mu variant was first identified in Columbia but that’s just where it was first identified—it could have literally evolved anywhere. Speaking of evolved, I have yet to hear an explanation as to why vaccine induced selection pressure is never mentioned as a possible reason for the explosion of variants.

Fauci goes on to suggest that a third jab is a strong possibility but then assures us that the third jab will be the final jab.
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For you maybe an Ivermectin jab might be more appropriate.
 
Darth Omar said:
Speaking of evolved, I have yet to hear an explanation as to why vaccine induced selection pressure is never mentioned as a possible reason for the explosion of variants.
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Most of the variants started before the vaccine, so the vaccine could not be the cause. The smoke cannot be the cause of the fire.

It could be the cause of the spread of the variants, but India has been hit hard by Delta, without much vaccination, so even that theory just fell apart.

Maybe there will be future variants caused by vaccines... But we have not seen them yet.
 
Walt said:
Most of the variants started before the vaccine, so the vaccine could not be the cause. The smoke cannot be the cause of the fire.

It could be the cause of the spread of the variants, but India has been hit hard by Delta, without much vaccination, so even that theory just fell apart.

Maybe there will be future variants caused by vaccines... But we have not seen them yet.
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You don’t know that, Alter.

First identifying a variant and pinpointing where it originated are two different things and the latter is likely impossible.
 
Darth Omar said:
You don’t know that, Alter.

First identifying a variant and pinpointing where it originated are two different things and the latter is likely impossible.
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Its creation would happen before identification, that is just common sense. It would be impossible to identify the Delta Variant before it came into being, right?

The Delta Variant was identified from samples dating back to before mass vaccination, and enough samples that best guess is that it was even further back.
 
Over the past few weeks, the leftist media has been especially hostile to the drug Ivermectin and has referred to it as a "horse drug." But the science, reality and history show the medication won a Nobel Prize in 2015 for human use.
William C. Campbell, an expert in parasite biology working in the USA, acquired Omura’s Streptomyces cultures and explored their efficacy. Campbell showed that a component from one of the cultures was remarkably efficient against parasites in domestic and farm animals. The bioactive agent was purified and named Avermectin, which was subsequently chemically modified to a more effective compound called Ivermectin. Ivermectin was later tested in humans with parasitic infections and effectively killed parasite larvae (microfilaria) (Figure 3). Collectively, Omura and Campbell’s contributions led to the discovery of a new class of drugs with extraordinary efficacy against parasitic diseases.

The discoveries of Avermectin and Artemisinin have fundamentally changed the treatment of parasitic diseases. Today the Avermectin-derivative Ivermectin is used in all parts of the world that are plagued by parasitic diseases. Ivermectin is highly effective against a range of parasites, has limited side effects and is freely available across the globe. The importance of Ivermectin for improving the health and wellbeing of millions of individuals with River Blindness and Lymphatic Filariasis, primarily in the poorest regions of the world, is immeasurable. Treatment is so successful that these diseases are on the verge of eradication, which would be a major feat in the medical history of humankind. Malaria infects close to 200 million individuals yearly. Artemisinin is used in all Malaria-ridden parts of the world. When used in combination therapy, it is estimated to reduce mortality from Malaria by more than 20% overall and by more than 30% in children. For Africa alone, this means that more than 100 000 lives are saved each year.

The discoveries of Avermectin and Artemisinin have revolutionized therapy for patients suffering from devastating parasitic diseases. Campbell, Omura and Tu have transformed the treatment of parasitic diseases. The global impact of their discoveries and the resulting benefit to mankind are immeasurable.

While the federal government hasn't issued an official approval for Ivermectin to be used as a treatment for Wuhan coronavirus, to mock the drug as one only given to animals is counter to reality and anti-science. Many who have been diagnosed with Wuhan coronavirus and have taken the drug say it helped them to recover from the disease.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...a-nobel-prize-for-miracle-human-uses-n2595193
 
dukkha said:
New ‘Mu’ COVID Variant Started—and Raged
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Delta existed back in September of 2020, and probably for a few months before that. That was well before mass vaccination. Mu is not circulating anywhere that has mass vaccination, so can be linked to mass vaccination.

Maybe a variant will be linked to vaccination, but it has not happened yet. So the answer to your original question, the reason the news is not talking about it happening, is that it has not happened. It is also the reason why the news failed to report the Bowling Green Massacre.
 
Walt said:
Delta existed back in September of 2020, and probably for a few months before that. That was well before mass vaccination. Mu is not circulating anywhere that has mass vaccination, so can be linked to mass vaccination.

Maybe a variant will be linked to vaccination, but it has not happened yet. So the answer to your original question, the reason the news is not talking about it happening, is that it has not happened. It is also the reason why the news failed to report the Bowling Green Massacre.
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Why *wouldn’t* a mass vax campaign in the middle of a pandemic give rise to an inordinate number of mutations?
 
Darth Omar said:
Why *wouldn’t* a mass vax campaign in the middle of a pandemic give rise to an inordinate number of mutations?
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Before we were talking about what has happened, now you are asking a more general hypothetical question.

Mass vaccination is often used to eliminate a disease from a population. Something that does not exist, will, by definition, not evolve.

The Covid-19 vaccines are not eliminating Covid-19 from the population, yet. Covid-19 appears to most quickly evolve in cases of long covid. Basically, the body and Covid spend months fighting things out, creating a perfect environment for speedy evolution. The vaccine definitely reduces the number of long covid cases, so would (theoretically) reduce the speed of evolution.

Also we are seeing the same traits in multiple strains. This implies there are a limited number of mutations that are easy and beneficial to the virus. Evolution may have hit a dead end before the vaccine.

Obviously, this is all conjecture. All we know is there is no strains yet that can be linked to the vaccine. Whether that will hold true in the future is impossible to say. If it does continue to hold true, then it will take even longer to explain why.
 
Darth Omar said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1433611201347530756

This is Fauci talking so you have to take it with a grain of salt.

The Mu variant was first identified in Columbia but that’s just where it was first identified—it could have literally evolved anywhere. Speaking of evolved, I have yet to hear an explanation as to why vaccine induced selection pressure is never mentioned as a possible reason for the explosion of variants.

Fauci goes on to suggest that a third jab is a strong possibility but then assures us that the third jab will be the final jab.
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Gotta wait until it is time to flood the country with mail-in ballots.

Fuck fauci and the horse he rode in on.
 
Darth Omar said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1433611201347530756

This is Fauci talking so you have to take it with a grain of salt.

The Mu variant was first identified in Columbia but that’s just where it was first identified—it could have literally evolved anywhere. Speaking of evolved, I have yet to hear an explanation as to why vaccine induced selection pressure is never mentioned as a possible reason for the explosion of variants.

Fauci goes on to suggest that a third jab is a strong possibility but then assures us that the third jab will be the final jab.
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A Trumper warning you to "take it with a grain of salt".
 
Darth Omar said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1433611201347530756

This is Fauci talking so you have to take it with a grain of salt.

The Mu variant was first identified in Columbia but that’s just where it was first identified—it could have literally evolved anywhere. Speaking of evolved, I have yet to hear an explanation as to why vaccine induced selection pressure is never mentioned as a possible reason for the explosion of variants.
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Why should it be mentioned if there's vaccine paranoia behind it but not science? Variants are not "exploding". They are occurring as is their natural tendency.
 
Hello Walt,

Walt said:
Delta existed back in September of 2020, and probably for a few months before that. That was well before mass vaccination. Mu is not circulating anywhere that has mass vaccination, so can be linked to mass vaccination.

Maybe a variant will be linked to vaccination, but it has not happened yet. So the answer to your original question, the reason the news is not talking about it happening, is that it has not happened. It is also the reason why the news failed to report the Bowling Green Massacre.
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The "Bowling Green Massacre."

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Thanks for the good laugh. I had to look that one up. I never heard of the 'Bowling Green Massacre.' There is a reason for that. There is no such thing! It was bogus nonsense 'alternative facts' from Kellyanne Conway's alternative reality imagination.

"The Bowling Green massacre is a fictitious incident of terrorism mentioned by Kellyanne Conway, then–Counselor to the President of President Donald Trump, in interviews with Cosmopolitan and TMZ on January 29, 2017, and in an interview on the MSNBC news program Hardball with Chris Matthews on February 2, 2017. Conway cited it as justification for a travel and immigration ban from seven Muslim-majority countries enacted by United States President Donald Trump. However, no such massacre occurred. The day after the interview, Conway said she misspoke and had been referring to the 2011 arrest of two Iraqi refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky, on charges including "attempting to provide material support to terrorists and to al-Qaeda in Iraq".[1] She stated that she had mentioned the incident because it led President Barack Obama to tighten immigration procedures for Iraqi citizens.

Her false statement went viral and became the top trending topic on Twitter, with many tweets parodying it. A website was set up anonymously for the purpose of collecting donations for supposed victims. Facebook users used the site's safety check feature to act as if the event were real. Mock vigils were held in Kentucky and New York in commemoration. It provoked widespread press reaction, with many relating it to Conway's earlier use of the phrase alternative facts to describe false statements by White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer in the wake of the Trump's inauguration. "

Bowling Green massacre

Good one!

You're firing on all cylinders.
 
Walt said:
Before we were talking about what has happened, now you are asking a more general hypothetical question.

Mass vaccination is often used to eliminate a disease from a population. Something that does not exist, will, by definition, not evolve.

The Covid-19 vaccines are not eliminating Covid-19 from the population, yet. Covid-19 appears to most quickly evolve in cases of long covid. Basically, the body and Covid spend months fighting things out, creating a perfect environment for speedy evolution. The vaccine definitely reduces the number of long covid cases, so would (theoretically) reduce the speed of evolution.

Also we are seeing the same traits in multiple strains. This implies there are a limited number of mutations that are easy and beneficial to the virus. Evolution may have hit a dead end before the vaccine.

Obviously, this is all conjecture. All we know is there is no strains yet that can be linked to the vaccine. Whether that will hold true in the future is impossible to say. If it does continue to hold true, then it will take even longer to explain why.
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It’s conjecture all around, Alter.

Way too much of this stuff is taken like it’s etched in stone. There’s every reason to think the vaccines could/will produce variants by the exact same evolutionary mechanism that gave rise to the so called ‘super bug’ bacteria. I’ve mentioned this before and no one can give a straight answer.

We don’t *know* that the high rate of vaccination isn’t affecting the virus—there’s only consensus *opinion* about it. And we know those haven’t had the greatest track record throughout this debacle.
 
Variants are created by random mutations. They are possible because the Trump virus stays alive and well due to anti-vaxxers and the refusal of rightys to honor safety recommendations. There will be more.
 
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