MSNBC Climate Change Poll

Okay, let's just settle this silliness.

Yes, Earth has natural climate changes....the current point of the MAJORITY of scientist world wide is that MAN MADE pollution has enhanced and/or accelerated the process.

Ask yourself this question: If in less than 3 centuries you remove a 1/4 (an estimate) of the trees and forests on the planet...burn said foliage, and then pave over the area with concrete, glass and steel, and then pump synthesized pollutants into the atmosphere and water, do you not think this would have a noticeable effect on the environment?

....and yet, the planet has not warmed any further for 17 years.

But again; what man caused events caused the planet to freeze, more than one time. What man caused events caused the planet to thaw and melt, more than one time.

Only clueless tools stuck on propaganda can believe, given the planets history of climate change, that all of a sudden, evil Modern MAN led by Western Industry commanded by Globalist Corporatistas trying to enslave us all has done this.

Should pollution concern us? Of course; but for HEALTH reasons NOT the idiotic warming agenda.
 
Here's a thought: solar, wind, stringent exhaust/extraction controls on gas, oil and coal and no nukes. Bottom line: you put solar panels on the top of skyscrapers and apartment complexes in major industrial cities and you severely reduce the energy consumption of oil, gas and coal.

LMAO
 
Is it to you? I don't care. Whoever answered that it's not a danger doesn't know much about climate change & what it entails.

the climate is and always has been changing. Humans have adapted to the changes over time. They will continue to do so. Pretending that there are some great tragedies associated with the current changes is just fear mongering.
 
People will care when the droughts continue and prices of food goes through the roof.

We have had droughts before, we will have them again. Same for floods/hurricanes/tornadoes etc...

All of CO's reservoirs are full... and this is before the snow melt. We currently are at 126% of normal snow at this time. We don't have the capacity for the water. I wonder where it will go. Obviously this is just anecdotal evidence, but so are the droughts taking place. They happen, have happened and will continue to happen throughout the future.
 
That is a very poorly worded question. I would not know how to answer it.

Do I see armed men invading my house as a threat to my life or wellbeing?

My answer would be yes.

If they asked...

Do I think its likely that armed men are going to invade my house?

My answer would be no.
 
The only useful poll on this subject would be voted on by climatologists, and we all know what it would say. What, really, is the point if asking the ignorant about their ignorance and paranoia?
 
The only useful poll on this subject would be voted on by climatologists, and we all know what it would say. What, really, is the point if asking the ignorant about their ignorance and paranoia?

what science classes do 'climatologists' take in addition to the meteorology classes?
 
As usual, you submit your opinion, supposition and conjecture as fact....which it is not.

Here's how I answered a similar stance from a mental compadre of yours. http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...NBC-Climate-Change-Poll&p=1481429#post1481429
Trees cover roughly 9% of the earth and 30% of land. Development has taken some portion logging some as well but thats been replanted. Hey i like trees too but none of this addresses how temp fluxuations occurred in the middle ages when none of this was in play.
 
Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities,1and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources.


AMERICAN SCIENTIFIC SOCIETIES
Statement on climate change from 18 scientific associations
"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver." (2009)2

American Association for the Advancement of Science
"The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)3

American Chemical Society
"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)4

American Geophysical Union
"Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)5......

Check out the graph here....
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

So why do rightwingnuts deny warming?
Heres why....

The Lewis Powell Memo - Corporate Blueprint to Dominate Democracy
...Forty years ago, on August 23, 1971, Justice Lewis F. Powell, Jr., an attorney from Richmond, Virginia, drafted a confidential memorandum for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce that describes a strategy for the corporate takeover of the dominant public institutions of American society...

Environmental awareness and pressure on corporate polluters had reached a new peak in the months before the Powell memo was written. In January 1970, President Nixon signed the National Environmental Policy Act, which formally recognized the environment’s importance by establishing the White House Council on Environmental Quality. Massive Earth Day events took place all over the country just a few months later and by early July, Nixon signed an executive order that created the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Tough new amendments to the Clean Air Act followed in December 1970 and by April 1971, EPA announced the first air pollution standards. Lead paint was soon regulated for the first time, and the awareness of the impacts of pesticides and other pollutants-- made famous by Rachel Carson in her 1962 book, Silent Spring – was recognized when DDT was finally banned for agricultural use in 1972.

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/ne...well-memo-corporate-blueprint-to-/blog/36466/

...since 1997 the billionaire oil brothers Charles and David Koch have dumped over 61.3 million dollars into front groups that attack climate science and policies designed to solve global warming. According to the 2010 IRS records of their private foundations, the latest year available, the Koch brothers funneled another $4.38 million into the Climate Denial Machine from their private foundations.

Despite overwhelming consensus among climate change researchers and scientific institutions worldwide—including all the Academies of Sciences in industrialized countries, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, NASA and all other major US scientific institutions—recognition of global warming among Americans remains startlingly low. Fueled by Koch money, the Climate Denial Machine has executed an unceasing, anti-scientific and anti-regulatory public relations campaign that mirrors the tactics used by tobacco companies to deny the health consequences of smoking.

The top recipients of Koch money in the Climate Denial Machine include Americans for Prosperity ($5.7 million since 1997), the Heritage Foundation ($2.7 million), the Cato Institute ($1.2 million), and the Manhattan Institute ($1.2 million)...
 
Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities,1and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources.
I believe this was from the non peer reviewed publication that was a Web poll of over 10,000 scientists in the field of earth sciences. Only 31% of which responded. And after that 31% responded they chose 79 responses based on the responders that had greater than 50% of published works over the past five years being related to climate. This isn't scientific at all. This is a fine example of manipulating statistics.

It also isn't science to change your models and data when they don't prove your theory.
 
I believe this was from the non peer reviewed publication that was a Web poll of over 10,000 scientists in the field of earth sciences. Only 31% of which responded. And after that 31% responded they chose 79 responses based on the responders that had greater than 50% of published works over the past five years being related to climate. This isn't scientific at all. This is a fine example of manipulating statistics.

It also isn't science to change your models and data when they don't prove your theory.


Link?
 

AAAS is announcing the launch of a new initiative to expand the dialogue on the risks of climate change. At the heart of the initiative is the AAAS's " What We Know" report, an assessment of current climate science and impacts that emphasizes the need to understand and recognize possible high-risk scenarios.

"We're the largest general scientific society in the world, and therefore we believe we have an obligation to inform the public and policymakers about what science is showing about any issue in modern life, and climate is a particularly pressing one," said Dr. Alan Leshner, CEO of AAAS. "As the voice of the scientific community, we need to share what we know and bring policymakers to the table to discuss how to deal with the issue."

Nobel laureate Dr. Mario Molina, distinguished professor of chemistry and biochemistry at the University of California, San Diego and Scripps Institution of Oceanography and co-chairs, Dr. Diana Wall, distinguished professor of biology and director at Colorado State University's School of Global Environmental Sustainability and Dr. James McCarthy, Alexander Agassiz Professor of Biological Oceanography at Harvard, chaired the climate science panel that generated the report.
http://www.aaas.org/news/aaas-kicks-initiative-recognize-climate-change-risks

We're talking science here not your beliefs sponsored by some international industrialists poll.
 
AAAS is announcing the launch of a new initiative to expand the dialogue on the risks of climate change. At the heart of the initiative is the AAAS's " What We Know" report, an assessment of current climate science and impacts that emphasizes the need to understand and recognize possible high-risk scenarios.

"We're the largest general scientific society in the world, and therefore we believe we have an obligation to inform the public and policymakers about what science is showing about any issue in modern life, and climate is a particularly pressing one," said Dr. Alan Leshner, CEO of AAAS. "As the voice of the scientific community, we need to share what we know and bring policymakers to the table to discuss how to deal with the issue."

Nobel laureate Dr. Mario Molina, distinguished professor of chemistry and biochemistry at the University of California, San Diego and Scripps Institution of Oceanography and co-chairs, Dr. Diana Wall, distinguished professor of biology and director at Colorado State University's School of Global Environmental Sustainability and Dr. James McCarthy, Alexander Agassiz Professor of Biological Oceanography at Harvard, chaired the climate science panel that generated the report.
http://www.aaas.org/news/aaas-kicks-initiative-recognize-climate-change-risks

We're talking science here not your beliefs sponsored by some international industrialists poll.

That IS the published article where they get the 97% statistic that they love to flaunt not some industrialists poll. It's the THIRD citation in that report you were using to try and prove a point. Actually read the report next time.
 
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