Mother sues to stop Bible classes in West Virginia schools

[Rune]

that or at least a lot of unfocused and/or misplaced rage. The cops should hand out binkys and safety pins

Because everyone should trust a lying sexual molester the way you do

 

[anatta]

Because everyone should trust a lying sexual molester the way you do

ahh. pretty lose with those terms huh? No matter. On with the de-legitimization! -you've got a presidency to wreck!
Screw America Into the Ground Again

 

[christiefan915]

aren't the parents handling it?......its an elective, voluntary class.....

So what? Electives are still part of the curricula. The kid is still going to get some type of evaluation for taking the course, either a letter grade or a pass/fail.

There would be no problem if this was an after-school activity, not a course.

 

[CFM]

So what? Electives are still part of the curricula. The kid is still going to get some type of evaluation for taking the course, either a letter grade or a pass/fail.

There would be no problem if this was an after-school activity, not a course.

Do you apply that same concept of personal responsibility when it comes to sex education and all those kids on free lunch programs that their parents aren't feeding?

 

[domer76]

That's not a reason to deny local communities control over their district curricula.

Your's is not a reason to allow Bible study in public schools.

 

[domer76]

this story has inspired me to file a lawsuit against McDonald's for using golden arches instead of my favorite color green

Go right ahead.

 

[domer76]

Supposedly, schools exist for the purpose of educating.

Teach the Big Bang and evolution in the churches.

 

[Granule]

trumpf?? where are you??

Mother sues to stop Bible classes in West Virginia schools​

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) — A kindergartner's mother sued her public school system in West Virginia, saying a 75-year practice of putting kids in Bible classes violates the U.S. and state constitutions.

The woman, identified as "Jane Doe" in the federal lawsuit backed by the Freedom From Religion Foundation, said her child will be forced either to take these weekly classes at her Mercer County elementary school or face ostracism as one of the few children who don't.

"This program advances and endorses one religion, improperly entangles public schools in religious affairs, and violates the personal consciences of nonreligious and non-Christian parents and students," the suit said.

The school district said the courses are voluntary electives.

According to the lawsuit, 19 elementary and middle schools in the county system offer the course, which was revised in 1986 after the parents of eight students filed complaints. Then-state Attorney General Tom McNeel issued guidelines, saying Bible instruction could be given in public schools subject to certain guidelines. Since then, the county Board of Education has administered it with standard curriculum that includes teaching creationism.

Attorney Marcus Schneider, who filed the suit this week, said Friday he wasn't immediately aware of similar classes in other West Virginia counties. He said the irony is that there will be criticism of the suit for defending the same First Amendment principle that protects the religious freedom of Christians.

The foundation currently has a dozen lawsuits in other states over issues such as prayer in school, and won a somewhat similar suit about Bible classes filed in 2002 against one Tennessee county's schools, staff attorney Patrick Eliot said. "Something like this is extremely rare. It's not something most school districts do," he said.

Teresa Russell, an administrator for Mercer County Public Schools, said the Bible courses are voluntary and they haven't yet been officially notified about the suit. Data showing the number of schools and students participating hasn't yet been calculated for this year, she said.

"I can verify that we do have a Bible in the Schools program. I can verify that we do supervise that particular program," Russell said. "It is an elective course that students opt to take."

West Virginia's county school systems can establish the electives they choose, and Mercer County created this one, according to the state Department of Education.

"For that reason, we do not know if any other school or county offers a course similar to the Mercer County course because it is a local decision," spokeswoman Kristin Anderson said.

We don't give a shit if the courses are voluntary, or not. If you there's any mention of Jesus in this school again, we will burn this bitch to the ground! PRAISE ALLAH!!

-- The Left

 

[domer76]

gotta do it somewhere.
since the kids go to school -it seems like that would be a good place for them to also go to elective bible class. *duh*
But the left is so hostile to religion -even an elective in the same building is heresy to their secular hatred of religion.

This kind of bullshit was settled in the courts a long time ago. Apparently, that shithole of a backward state like WV never got the memo.

 

[CFM]

Teach the Big Bang and evolution in the churches.

In a way mine does. It teaches how foolish anyone is to believe such nonsense like the big bang and evolution.

Do you believe it's a parental responsibility to do things at home you believe should be done at home?

 

[domer76]

Indeed.

You do have to be careful how it [religion] is presented in public schools on account of the First Amendment. My point is that kids who are never exposed to the Bible miss out on an important influence in western culture: I'm tempted to say virtually every important thinker from the past *wasn't* biblically illiterate.

Even the important German philosophers had to know it before they could reject it. All the founders knew it---Jefferson had his own version of it lol.

Yep. Jefferson thought the another's of the Bible were "ignorant, unlettered men". He was correct.

 

[anatta]

This kind of bullshit was settled in the courts a long time ago. Apparently, that shithole of a backward state like WV never got the memo.

it's not anywhere near that simple:
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Equal Access Act 20 U.S. Code § 4071 - Denial of equal access prohibited
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/20/4071
a) Restriction of limited open forum on basis of religious, political, philosophical, or other speech content prohibited

It shall be unlawful for any public secondary school which receives Federal financial assistance and which has a limited open forum to deny equal access or a fair opportunity to, or discriminate against, any students who wish to conduct a meeting within that limited open forum on the basis of the religious, political, philosophical, or other content of the speech at such meeting

 

[domer76]

In a way mine does. It teaches how foolish anyone is to believe such nonsense like the big bang and evolution.

Do you believe it's a parental responsibility to do things at home you believe should be done at home?

Great. Let's teach what a collection of children's stories and laughable myths the Bible is.

 

[CFM]

Great. Let's teach what a collection of children's stories and laughable myths the Bible is.

You could but that would also be foolish.

If you think things like this class are wrong because it's the responsibility of parents to do it at home, do you apply that same concept to things like sex education and feeding your own kids?

 

[domer76]

it's not anywhere near that simple:
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Equal Access Act 20 U.S. Code § 4071 - Denial of equal access prohibited
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/20/4071
a) Restriction of limited open forum on basis of religious, political, philosophical, or other speech content prohibited

It shall be unlawful for any public secondary school which receives Federal financial assistance and which has a limited open forum to deny equal access or a fair opportunity to, or discriminate against, any students who wish to conduct a meeting within that limited open forum on the basis of the religious, political, philosophical, or other content of the speech at such meeting

Yep. They can have organized meetings. Classes are a different animal.

 

[anatta]

Yep. They can have organized meetings. Classes are a different animal.

if it's non-grade i don't see any difference other then semantics

 

[CFM]

Yep. They can have organized meetings. Classes are a different animal.

Classes are a form of an organized meeting.

 

[CFM]

if it's non-grade i don't see any difference other then semantics

domer doesn't like the content.

 

[philly rabbit]

Law suits when you get offended.

This is not american and it has to stop.

 

[CFM]

Law suits when you get offended.

This is not american and it has to stop.

Those that tell you this is a parental responsibility and should be done at home are the same ones that support sex education and feeding kids, also a parental responsibility, as OK for the school to do.

As for the law suits, they aren't complaining because they say it's wrong but that they don't like it.