"More Red-State Trouble, U.S. looks increasingly like two different countries"

Damocles said:
It also gives sanctimonious gasbags something to use to demand more government authoritarian control over every aspect of every life. "If it would just save one life it would be enough" and all the other platitudes aside.... I'd prefer to live with danger than life with Fascists protecting me (and others) from every danger.
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I see, you do realize of course that pretty much puts you on path to the anarchist camp, never knew you had so much in common with your dreaded ANTIFA now did you

It is not "platitudes" nor "gasbags," rather common sense, freedom is based upon reason, not desire
 
SmarterthanYou said:
wrong. democrats are trying to force measures upon others who don't agree with them. end of story. that is all that need be said about it
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Don't agree with Democrats or don't agree with the measures?

As we see in vaccinated States and communities, the measures work in preventing the spread of Covid and deaths from Covid, so are you disagreeing with those facts or the fact that Democrats are recommending common sense in addressing the virus?
 
archives said:
Don't agree with Democrats or don't agree with the measures?
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if you'd have added republicans in that sentence, you might have been correct.

archives said:
As we see in vaccinated States and communities, the measures work in preventing the spread of Covid and deaths from Covid, so are you disagreeing with those facts or the fact that Democrats are recommending common sense in addressing the virus?
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what you are doing is taking ALL of those stats completely out of context, like the racist you are. you are refusing to see that the 'unvaccinated' are minority communities (that would be black and hispanic) in MAJOR cities.......I believe you called them YOUR base...........

but that's none of my business
 
archives said:
I see, you do realize of course that pretty much puts you on path to the anarchist camp, never knew you had so much in common with your dreaded ANTIFA now did you

It is not "platitudes" nor "gasbags," rather common sense, freedom is based upon reason, not desire
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Agreed. My slippery slope arguments start with a steeper slope.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
if you'd have added republicans in that sentence, you might have been correct.

what you are doing is taking ALL of those stats completely out of context, like the racist you are. you are refusing to see that the 'unvaccinated' are minority communities (that would be black and hispanic) in MAJOR cities.......I believe you called them YOUR base...........

but that's none of my business
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Yeah, but if you defend their right to disagree with the democrats they call you a Trump lover, which I previously noted means that the vast majority of them quite literally turn off critical thought because they hear the name Trump. Anything you say to them after that point will literally fall into vacuum, because there remains no substance to their thoughts.

These are the same people who used to pretend that they didn't trust "the man". They really don't know what distrust means. This is where Libertarians really shine.
 
Damocles said:
Yeah, but if you defend their right to disagree with the democrats they call you a Trump lover, which I previously noted means that the vast majority of them quite literally turn off critical thought because they hear the name Trump. Anything you say to them after that point will literally fall into vacuum, because there remains no substance to their thoughts.

These are the same people who used to pretend that they didn't trust "the man". They really don't know what distrust means. This is where Libertarians really shine.
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You last paragraph made me laugh because a number of people who in their youth said, "don't trust the man" and "don't trust anyone over 30" are now "the man".

It's why you hear so many less progressives talking about "question authority" because in most places in this country they are the authority.
 
cawacko said:
You last paragraph made me laugh because a number of people who in their youth said, "don't trust the man" and "don't trust anyone over 30" are now "the man".

It's why you hear so many less progressives talking about "question authority" because in most places in this country they are the authority.
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And see how fucked up those places got so quickly.
 
Damocles said:
Yeah, but if you defend their right to disagree with the democrats they call you a Trump lover, which I previously noted means that the vast majority of them quite literally turn off critical thought because they hear the name Trump. Anything you say to them after that point will literally fall into vacuum, because there remains no substance to their thoughts.

These are the same people who used to pretend that they didn't trust "the man". They really don't know what distrust means. This is where Libertarians really shine.
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Son of the Revolution said:
Why are democrats pushing the vaccine?
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Because 99% of the people who are dying are unvaccinated. We want you to live, so we are trying to convince you to take the vaccine that saves lives.

The real question you should be asking is why are Democrats giving up trying to save your life? That has a more interesting answer.
 
Damocles said:
It also gives sanctimonious gasbags something to use to demand more government authoritarian control over every aspect of every life. "If it would just save one life it would be enough" and all the other platitudes aside.... I'd prefer to live with danger than life with Fascists protecting me (and others) from every danger.
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Well, maybe you could make an exception for a disease that has killed 650,000 Americans? Maybe it might be the right time to put down your 'Don't Tread On Me' flag. Do you think?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
wrong. democrats are trying to force measures upon others who don't agree with them. end of story. that is all that need be said about it
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Having Democrats speak out for the vaccine is "forcing others" to get the vaccine, but having Republicans speak out against the vaccine with lies is not "forcing others"?
 
Concart said:
Well, maybe you could make an exception for a disease that has killed 650,000 Americans? Maybe it might be the right time to put down your 'Don't Tread On Me' flag. Do you think?
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I see you are disgusted by libertarian dogma too. people who would prefer to live in a Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome world free of any social constraints are batshit crazy
 
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