More problems in Iraq

Socrtease said:
First off Al Qaeda in Iraq is attacking Sh'ites in Iraq to create internal factionalism so that Sunni and Shiites will fight one another and create further instability in the country. However, even if there were not there, Shiites and Sunni will never get along because of a serious rift in dogma. Sunnis are the minority and will find themselves marginalized more and more as the US withdraws from Iraq. 20 years after we are gone Iraq will be an Islamic nation.
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If that is their plan, it is a poor one. After they are finished killing each other, the West will come and take over unopposed.

Yes, their ideologies are different. Though if you read history? Every time the Muslims rose up and were successful? Someone was able to unite the Shiites and Sunnis.

I agree. The Sunnis will be marginalized, unless the current government includes them in GOV.This is why Democracy will not work in Iraq. Since most of the voters are Shiites. And the Sunnis will be left out and revolt.

Also Sunnis are a minority but countries like Saudi Arabia who have a Sunni majority are pressuring the USA to maintain Sunni power in the region.

Not to mention the Western elites don't want it falling to the Shittes and becoming an extension of Iran.

That is why I said there will come a day when the Western Elites will long for Saddam's reign....

Right now, diplomacy and compromise is Iraq's best bet of a prosperous future. Basically a coalition government.

In the future? Islam will have modernized(become more moderate) quite considerably. I doubt it will be anything like the radical Islam we see today.
 
Southern Man said:
As predicted:.
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Yawn. I give you CIA data and you give me some Journalist's data whose job it is to sell papers.

It is a KNOWN fact that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 but you can continue to live in denial. Yes you have been programmed like a good little droid with lies.


Sounds to me like the commission was a smoke screen and beat around the bush.

http://www.factcheck.org/article203.html

Here is the FINAL results.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Commission_Report

Here I will help you out.

In addition, while meetings between al-Qaeda representatives and Iraqi government officials had taken place, the panel had no credible evidence that Saddam Hussein had assisted al-Qaeda in preparing or executing the 9/11 attacks.
 
wiseones2cents said:
Yawn. I give you CIA data and you give me some Journalist's data whose job it is to sell papers.

It is a KNOWN fact that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 but you can continue to live in denial. Yes you have been programmed like a good little droid with lies.


Sounds to me like the commission was a smoke screen and beat around the bush.

http://www.factcheck.org/article203.html

Here is the FINAL results.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Commission_Report

Here I will help you out.

In addition, while meetings between al-Qaeda representatives and Iraqi government officials had taken place, the panel had no credible evidence that Saddam Hussein had assisted al-Qaeda in preparing or executing the 9/11 attacks.
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NewsMax 2003:
In the nearly two years since President Bush named Iraq as part of the "Axis of Evil," the American press has been working overtime denying that there was ever any link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11 mastermind Osama bin Laden. But that's not what the same news outlets were saying before the 9/11 attacks, back when Bill Clinton was president and needed justification to attack Iraq.

Just weeks after Clinton bombed the daylights out of suspected hideaways for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, he used his January 1999 State of the Union Address to warn America about both bin Laden and Saddam, mentioning the two terror kingpins almost in the same breath. "We will defend our security wherever we are threatened - as we did this summer when we struck at Osama bin Laden's network of terror," Clinton told Congress and the nation. "The bombing our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania reminds us again of the risks faced every day by those who represent America to the world." Moments later Clinton segued into the threat posed by Saddam:

"For nearly a decade, Iraq has defied its obligations to destroy its weapons of terror and the missiles to deliver them. America will continue to contain Saddam, and we will work for the day when Iraq has a government worthy of its people." But rather than launch an all out assault on what reporters now call the "dubious" assertion that Saddam and bin Laden had made common cause, the press took Clinton's ball and ran with it.

In fact, as researched and documented this week by FrontPageMagazine.com, in 1999 the national news media was replete with reports linking the Butcher of Baghdad and the man who masterminded the killing of 3,000 Americans almost two years ago.

Here are a few highlights gathered by FrontPage from the press' Saddam-bin Laden file – stories that have since conveniently disappeared down the media's memory hole: In fact, as researched and documented this week by FrontPageMagazine.com, in 1999 the national news media was replete with reports linking the Butcher of Baghdad and the man who masterminded the killing of 3,000 Americans almost two years ago.

Here are a few highlights gathered by FrontPage from the press' Saddam-bin Laden file – stories that have since conveniently disappeared down the media's memory hole:

Associated Press Worldstream

Feb. 14, 1999 Taliban leader says whereabouts of bin Laden unknown

... Analysts say bin Laden's options for asylum are limited.

Iraq was considered a possible destination because bin Laden had received an invitation from Iraqi President Saddam Hussein last month. And Somalia was a third possible destination because of its anarchy and violent anti-U.S. history .... San Jose Mercury News

SUNDAY MORNING FINAL EDITION

Feb. 14, 1999 U.S. WORRIED ABOUT IRAQI, BIN LADEN TIES TERRORIST COULD GAIN EVEN DEADLIER WEAPONS U.S. intelligence officials are worried that a burgeoning alliance between terrorist leader Osama bin Laden and Iraqi President Saddam Hussein could make the fugitive Saudi's loose-knit organization much more dangerous ... In addition, the officials said, Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal is now in Iraq, as is a renowned Palestinian bomb designer, and both could make their expertise available to bin Laden. "It's clear the Iraqis would like to have bin Laden in Iraq," said Vincent Cannistraro, a former head of counterterrorism operations at the Central Intelligence Agency ... Saddam has even offered asylum to bin Laden, who has expressed support for Iraq.

... [in] late December, when bin Laden met a senior Iraqi intelligence official near Qandahar, Afghanistan, there has been increasing evidence that bin Laden and Iraq may have begun cooperating in planning attacks against American and British targets around the world. Bin Laden, who strikes in the name of Islam, and Saddam, one of the most secular rulers in the Arab world, have little in common except their hatred of the United States ...

More worrisome, the American officials said, are indications that there may be contacts between bin Laden's organization and Iraq's Special Security Organization (SSO), run by Saddam's son Qusay. Both the SSO and the Mukhabarat were involved in a failed 1993 plot to assassinate former President George Bush ...

"The idea that the same people who are hiding Saddam's biological weapons may be meeting with Osama bin Laden is not a happy one," said one American official.... Beacon Journal wire services

Oct. 31, 1999 BIN LADEN SPOTTED AFTER OFFER TO LEAVE DATELINE: JALALABAD, AFGHANISTAN: ... The Taliban has since made it known through official channels that the likely destination is Iraq. A Clinton administration official said bin Laden's request "falls far short" of the UN resolution that the Taliban deliver him for trial. ...

The Kansas City Star March 2, 1999 International terrorism, a conflict without boundaries By Rich Hood ... He [bin Laden] has a private fortune ranging from $250 million to $500 million and is said to be cultivating a new alliance with Iraq's Saddam Hussein, who has biological and chemical weapons bin Laden would not hesitate to use. An alliance between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein could be deadly. Both men are united in their hatred for the United States and any country friendly to the United States. ...

United Press International Nov. 3, 1999, Wednesday, BC cycle. WASHINGTON – The U.S. government has tried to prevent accused terror suspect Osama bin Laden from fleeing Afghanistan to either Iraq or Chechnya, Michael Sheehan, head of counter-terrorism at the State Department, told a Senate Foreign Relations subcommittee. ...

U.S. Newswire Dec. 23, 1999 Terrorism Expert Reveals Why Osama bin Laden has Declared War On America; Available for Comment in Light of Predicted Attacks. ... Aauthor Yossef] Bodansky also reveals the relationship between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein and how the U.S. bombing of Iraq is "strengthening the hands of militant Islamists eager to translate their rage into violence and terrorism."

National Public Radio MORNING EDITION (10:00 a.m.ET) Feb. 18, 1999 THOUGH AFGHANISTAN HAS PROVIDED OSAMA BIN LADEN WITH SANCTUARY, IT IS UNCLEAR WHERE HE IS NOW. ANCHORS: BOB EDWARDS REPORTERS: MIKE SHUSTER ... There have also been reports in recent months that bin Laden might have been considering moving his operations to Iraq. Intelligence agencies in several nations are looking into that. According to Vincent Cannistraro, a former chief of CIA counterterrorism operations, a senior Iraqi intelligence official, Farouk Hijazi(ph), sought out bin Laden in December and invited him to come to Iraq.

Mr. VINCENT CANNISTRARO (Former Chief of CIA Counterterrorism Operations): Farouk Hijazi, who was the Iraqi ambassador in Turkey ... known through sources in Afghanistan, members of Osama's entourage let it be known that the meeting had taken place.

SHUSTER: Iraq's contacts with bin Laden go back some years, to at least 1994, when, according to one U.S. government source, Hijazi met him when bin Laden lived in Sudan. According to Cannistraro, Iraq invited bin Laden to live in Baghdad to be nearer to potential targets of terrorist attack in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. There is a wide gap between bin Laden's fundamentalism and Saddam Hussein's secular dictatorship. But some experts believe bin Laden might be tempted to live in Iraq because of his reported desire to obtain chemical or biological weapons. CIA director George Tenet referred to that in recent testimony. ... Foreign news services also carried news of the now-supressed Saddam-bin Laden connection:

Agence France-Presse Feb. 17, 1999 Saddam plans to use bin Laden against Kuwait, Saudi: opposition Iraq's President Saddam Hussein plans to use alleged terrorist Osama bin Laden's network to carry out his threats against Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, an Iraqi opposition figure charged on Wednesday. "If the ... Jaber, a member of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI), said Iraq had "offered to shelter bin Laden under the precondition that he carry out strikes on targets in neighbouring countries."

Deutsche Presse-Agentur Feb. 17, 1999, Wednesday, BC Cycle Opposition group says bin Laden in Iraq

DATELINE: Kuwait City An Iraqi opposition group claimed in a published report Wednesday that Islamic militant Osama bin Laden is in Iraq from where he plans to launch a campaign of terrorism against Baghdad's Gulf neighbours. The claim was made by Bayan Jabor, spokesman for the Teheran-based Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI). Bin Laden "recently settled in Iraq at the invitation of Saddam Hussein in exchange for directing strikes against targets in neighbouring countries," Jabor told the Kuwaiti newspaper al-Rai al- Aam ... Taleban leaders in Afghanistan, where he had been living, said they lost track of him. Media reports have speculated he sought refuge in Chechnya, Somalia, Iraq, or with a non-Taliban group in Afghanistan.

Jabor, who was interviewed in Damascus, Syria, said Iraq began extending invitations to bin Laden six months ago, shortly after the United States bombed his suspected terrorist training camps in Afghanistan after linking him with the August 7 bombings of U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and in Dar-es-Salam, Tanzania.

The United States indicted Bin Laden for the embassy bombings and has offered a five million dollar reward for information leading to his capture. Bin Laden's disappearance has coincided with stepped up threats by Iraq against neighbours Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Turkey for allowing the United States and Britain to use their air bases to carry out air patrols over two "no-fly" zones over northern and southern Iraq.
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Southern Man said:
NewsMax 2003:
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Yes. Keep being spoon fed the B.S. Most of those articles were speculation and had absolutely not facts behind them.

The true fact of the mater is that Saddam and Osama Bin Laden, hated each other.

And one of the reasons why Osama was expelled from Saudi Arabia was because he wanted Saudi Arabia to make war with Iraq. Saddam was an infidel to him.

It is also no secret that America was trying to find an excuse to go to war with Iraq to regain control of Iraq's oil fields. Therefore there was alot of talk about painting Saddam as a threat.

Though the FACTS of the mater are that Saddam was NEVER a threat to the USA and that Saddam had no WMD(he was actually destroying the skud missiles as he was told to do). Saddam did NOT receive any "yellow cake"(Uranium) from Africa as was reported.Saddam did NOT have ties to Al-Qaeda.

I have presented CIA intelligence and an article from Fact check.org, plus the final findings of the commission.

All you have posted was articles of speculation and unproven accusations.

Its like today. Half the articles are saying that the Pakistani Taliban/Al-Qaeda had nothing to do with the New York Bombing attempt.

The other half(B.S.) say it does.

But the Intelligence community is saying it doesn't and that is what counts.

The idiots that are saying it does is to put more pressure on Pakistan to route out Pakistani Taliban and to sell papers.

Yes, The Pakistani Taliban and Al-Qaeda were behind and financed the $6,000 dollar terrorist attack.(note sarcasm).LOL

This hype is just to feed the hysteria being created by certain media outlets.
 
Southern Man said:
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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Yawn. Still grasping at straws. Yes, it is true that Muslims believe this.

Though all the intelligence gathered did not find any connection with Al-Qaeda and Saddam.

And all the connections that the bush administration did claim? ALL turned out to be FALSE.

Like I said. Osama and Saddam hated each other. And NO evidence shows they put their differences aside to align themselves against America.

Iraq was attacked because of OIL. The entire bush administration profited from the resource war. Iraq had nothing to do with Al-Qaeda. Those American kids(soldiers) are dying there for corporate profits. Nothing more.
 
wiseones2cents said:
Yawn. Still grasping at straws. Yes, it is true that Muslims believe this.

Though all the intelligence gathered did not find any connection with Al-Qaeda and Saddam.

And all the connections that the bush administration did claim? ALL turned out to be FALSE.

Like I said. Osama and Saddam hated each other. And NO evidence shows they put their differences aside to align themselves against America.

Iraq was attacked because of OIL. The entire bush administration profited from the resource war. Iraq had nothing to do with Al-Qaeda. Those American kids(soldiers) are dying there for corporate profits. Nothing more.
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Try coffee. Everyone with any sense believes this.
 
T&A said:
Saddam allowed terrorist training camps in Iraq during the 90s, so there was a history of relations between the two, as of 9/11.
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Ya right. I heard there were indeed some training camps. Within Kurdish territory. You know? The American allies?

After all the experts and U.S. intelligence officials were saying for years there was no connection of Saddam Hussein to Al-Qaeda.

All of a sudden some idiots later on, claimed new information(many, many years after the invasion). That they were still sorting through all the evidence.

Ya right. Just like Saddam had WMD and they knew where they were and that Saddam received Yellow cake(uranium) from Africa. Both of which were proven LIES.

Like I said, every time they are caught in a lie, they forge some other B.S. or lies to keep the naive like you people believing in something that is not true.

One thing I've learned is that the elites are major liars and they control the Medias. They forge evidence, offer false testimonies and lie.

Sorry but the bush administration got caught so many times lying that America has lost all credibility as fas as I am concerned.

Yes I know you probably listen to fox news which was basically an extension(propoganda machine) of the bush administration.

Right after 9/11? I was reading hundreds of articles each day from sources around the world. I would have known if a terrorist camp was found with ties to Saddam inside Iraq. What I know for sure was that ALL the accusations made against Saddam were proven FALSE. Every single one of them.
 
Southern Man said:
If you want to insult me, at least be a man about it and do it yourself.
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LOL. I didn't insult you. They were insulting people that actually believed Saddam had ties to 9/11.

Basically they were insulting you, but I wouldn't go as far as to insult you. I know you have been mass brainwashed by the enemy of peace.

I am just trying to let you see the TRUTH. The Truth is that Saddam had NO TIES to Al-Qaeda and that this war is about oil. Those kids are dying for corporate profit.

The B.S. about freedom for the Iraqis came after 4 or 5 of Bush's B.S. EXCUSES were all found out to be lies. The freedom B.S. was the only one that could stick.I can look them all up for you if you like. I have an extensive archive.

Also remember the fact that it was the west and the CIA that trained and brought Saddam to power and armed him.
 
Southern Man said:
"They are directed at people like you"

I didn't think you were man enough to admit it.
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You debate like a second grader. You disregard everything I say and pic and at the most irrelevant parts of the discussion?

Man enough to admit what?

YOUR not man enough to admit YOUR wrong. Everyone with 1/2 a brain knows that Saddam had nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or 9/11.

YouTube - Bush admits Iraq/Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdlUi8-9TMU -

Dick Cheny Confesses Iraq Had NOTHING to do with 9-11

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5486702338652678634&hl#

Give up?LOL
 
wiseones2cents said:
You debate like a second grader. You disregard everything I say and pic and at the most irrelevant parts of the discussion?

Man enough to admit what?

YOUR not man enough to admit YOUR wrong. Everyone with 1/2 a brain knows that Saddam had nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or 9/11.

YouTube - Bush admits Iraq/Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdlUi8-9TMU -

Dick Cheny Confesses Iraq Had NOTHING to do with 9-11

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5486702338652678634&hl#

Give up?LOL
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How ironic, you accusing me of second grade tactics. No one ever said that Saddam had anything to do with 9-11, but that he had connections with terrorism.
 
Southern Man said:
How ironic, you accusing me of second grade tactics. No one ever said that Saddam had anything to do with 9-11, but that he had connections with terrorism.
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PROVE he had connections with terrorism! Did you not read the Cheney link where he himself states that the lead they had stating ties with Saddam to the Mohamed Atta(the 9/11 hijacker) was proven to be FALSE? As were all the supposed ties?LOL

COME ON SOUTHERN MAN! LETS SEE YOUR PROOF. All you have is this bogus article that states there were terrorist camps in Iraq(unconfirmed). I wonder where Saddam used to train his Elite Guard? Maybe he had a Colosseum.LOL

I want you to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Saddam had ties to Terrorism.

I proved that ALL of the accusations against Saddam were proven FALSE! And I have supplied enough articles on the subject.

Now lets see what you got.LOL So far all I see is talk, no proof! I have actual testimony from Bush, Cheney AND the CIA.
 
wiseones2cents said:
PROVE he had connections with terrorism! Did you not read the Cheney link where he himself states that the lead they had stating ties with Saddam to the Mohamed Atta(the 9/11 hijacker) was proven to be FALSE? As were all the supposed ties?LOL

COME ON SOUTHERN MAN! LETS SEE YOUR PROOF. All you have is this bogus article that states there were terrorist camps in Iraq(unconfirmed). I wonder where Saddam used to train his Elite Guard? Maybe he had a Colosseum.LOL

I want you to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Saddam had ties to Terrorism.

I proved that ALL of the accusations against Saddam were proven FALSE! And I have supplied enough articles on the subject.

Now lets see what you got.LOL So far all I see is talk, no proof! I have actual testimony from Bush, Cheney AND the CIA.
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The legal standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt". Clearly you are not a reasonable person.

http://www.husseinandterror.com/
 
Southern Man said:
The legal standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt". Clearly you are not a reasonable person.

http://www.husseinandterror.com/
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My GOD!!! I have to hand it to those Jews. They are great at spreading mis-information.

Who is this Deroy Murdock? And why should I take his word when the CIA and every other government official states there was no ties between Saddam and the terrorists(Al-Qadea) that were responsible for 9/11?

What do we know about Deroy? He opposes the war on drugs and is pro homosexual! That he was pro waterboarding?

On May 7, 2003, Judge Baer ruled that Hussein and his Baathist government, as well as al-Qaeda and the Taliban, provided "material support" to the September 11 conspirators. As Judge Baer's decision stated: "I conclude that plaintiffs have shown, ALBEIT BARELY, 'by evidence satisfactory to the court' that Iraq provided material support to bin Laden and al Qaeda."


Did you hear that? ALBEIT BARELY!!!!! This decision sounds like a joke to me. Where did he get all the evidence if the CIA was saying that Saddam had no connections to Al-Qaeda?

This is the same judge that tried to suppress key evidence in a drug bust! GET RID OF HIM!

Harold? Yep, he's Jewish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Baer,_Jr.

Judicial career

Baer was elected to serve in the New York Supreme Court for New York County in 1982 and served until 1992. He was then Executive Judicial Officer for the Judicial Arbitration and Mediation Service, Inc from 1992 to 1994. He was nominated by President Bill Clinton to the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on April 26, 1994, to fill a seat vacated by Robert W. Sweet. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on August 9 and received his commission the next day. Judge Baer found his judicial career in a firestorm in 1996 when he issued an opinion that suppressed evidence in a drug case in the case of US v. Bayless, 913 F. Supp. 232 (SDNY 1996). In a legal opinion that generated much public criticism, the Judge ruled that no reasonable suspicion existed to stop a car when the car was in a known drug area, it was 5am in the morning, the car had Michigan plates, it was doubled parked, four men approached the car and, without talking to the driver, and put two large duffle bags into the trunk of the car. When the police approached the car, the four men walked off in different directions. The police then stopped the car to question the driver. The driver consented to a search of her car and 34 kilos of cocaine and 2 kilos of heroin were found in the trunk and the driver ultimately admitted that she had made numerous drug runs between Detroit and Manhattan over the past few years. The Judge suppressed the cocaine and heroin that was found in the car as well as the incriminating statements of the defendant saying there was no reasonable suspicion for the police officers to stop the car in the first place. The judge questioned the testimony of the police officer and credited the conflicting testimony of the defendant. There was a huge public outrage against the decision, and President Clinton even talked of trying to get Judge Baer's to resign. Republicans in Congress talked about possible impeachment of Judge Baer. Ultimately, in a move that was criticized by some as hurting the independent nature of the judiciary, the Judge issued an opinion that reversed his earlier decision and found that there was reasonable suspicion to stop the car and question the occupant. The judge placed the blame on the prosecution for not bringing out enough information which would have aided his initial opinion. See US v. Bayless, 921 F. Supp. 211 (SDNY 1996). Vanderbilt Television News Archive

WHAT A JOKE the American judicial system is!!!!!!! And you wonder why the war on drugs cant be won!


Now back to your garbage link. NONE of those groups had anything to do with 9/11 OR Al-qaeda. They did not threaten America in any way shape or form. Now Israel on the other hand YES. It is no secret that Saddam was compensating families of suicide bombers. This does not allude to ties between Saddam and Terrorists. This only suggests that he as does every other Muslim leader supports the Palestinian cause.

The claim of terrorist training camps in Iraq is a complete joke! Even if there were for arguments sake? They found so called training camps all throughout Islamic countries. I dont see America attacking any other countries. Do you?

Of course not! They don't have OIL!

Everything else this guy stated was speculation with no real evidence. Again. You are giving me a columnist's opinion. WHERE IS HIS EVIDENCE? Lots of accusations but no evidence from the intelligence community.

Saddam supplying diplomatic help to Abu Abbas?? He had an Iraqi diplomatic passport? Here on wikipedia it says they did not extradite him because of Yugoslavian relations with the PLO. Someone is TALKING SHIT.

After further research I conclude that this article is MIS-INFORMATION and it indeed was Yugoslavia that helped out Abbas, not some Iraqi diplomatic immunity.

As far as I am concerned? This article just lost most of its credibility. It could fool someone naive that wants to believe this B.S. but it cant fool me, that is updated on the suituation.

Throughout the 1980s, the P.L.F. launched attacks on both civilian and military targets in the north of Israel, across the Lebanese border. In 1985 he masterminded the hijacking of the Italian cruise ship the Achille Lauro. During the hijacking, 69 year old wheelchair-using American Jewish passenger Leon Klinghoffer, was shot dead and thrown overboard. The four hijackers, fearful of United States military intervention surrendered to Egypt in return for safe passage out of Egypt based on the subtext that they had done no harm to any of the passengers. United States Special Operations Command intercepted the plane caring the hijackers to Tunisia and redirected it to Sigonella a NATO base in Italy. There they discovered that Zaidan and PLO political officer Hassan, were also on the plane. Due to insider deals within the Italian government, they were both flow from Sigonella to Fuciamo airport (An auxiliary field next tor Rome's main international airport, Leonardo da Vinci Airport). From there, dressed in Italian air force officers' flight suits, they boarded a Yugoslav civilian airliner destined to Belgrade, Yugoslavia. Despite American requests for the extradition of Zaidan from Yugoslavia, he was not extradited due to Yugoslav relations with the PLO. He then flew to Aden, South Yemen and from there to Baghdad where Saddam Hussein sheltered him from extradition to Italy. He remained in Iraq and commanded the P.L.F. (reunited in 1989) until Saddam was deposed by coalition forces in 2003.

There is absolutely no proof that Saddam was funding suicide bombers. Though there is alot more suspicion that Iran is funding them. Why didn't America go to war with Iran? Oh ya. Iran is much stronger and was not under sanctions for 12 years.

And there are ties with Saddam with the PLO, though the PLO have ties to many countries. So tell me again why Iraq was attacked? Maybe they should attack all these countries.

Maybe America should have attacked Yugoslavia. Oh wait. They did(Serbians). On the side of the Muslims.:)

Therefore define terrorist and tell me what Saddam had to do with the terrorists that attacked America. You know. Al-Qaeda.

All though you believe the lies? Anyone with half a brain knows that Iraq was attacked for oil. The bush administration had been planning this war for years. Did George Bush senior attack Iraq the first time because of its ties to terrorism? NO! Because of an oil dispute between Iraq and Kuwait. Of which the Americans were giving slant drilling technology to the Kuwaitis to steal Iraqi oil.
 
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