More Joke administration overt racism

AProudLefty said:
Your opinion.
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No, that's based on your post. You say Buttplug doesn't think highways are racist, even as he repeatedly says they are, then you give two examples of racism in urban planning. Either they are or they aren't, and that should be provable to a reasonable degree.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No, that's based on your post. You say Buttplug doesn't think highways are racist, even as he repeatedly says they are, then you give two examples of racism in urban planning. Either they are or they aren't, and that should be provable to a reasonable degree.
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I'll bite. If he said that those highways are racist, then what did he mean by that? Is he saying that those highways are alive?

Now do you see how you do not make any sense?
 
AProudLefty said:
I'll bite. If he said that those highways are racist, then what did he mean by that? Is he saying that those highways are alive?

Now do you see how you do not make any sense?
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He meant it in the sense that they were deliberately put where they were put on the basis of screwing some minority because the designers were racists and wanted to screw that particular ethnic group.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
He meant it in the sense that they were deliberately put where they were put on the basis of screwing some minority because the designers were racists and wanted to screw that particular ethnic group.
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Yeah and you think it is not true.

It's a fact that there was systemic racism at that time.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
You can't have it both ways. Either the engineers, etc., planned those highways without thinking something like, Let's put it through this neighborhood of N....rs and bust 'em up or they didn't. I say they didn't. Buttplug says they did.
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Planners of the interstate highway system, which began to take shape after the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956, routed some highways directly, and sometimes purposefully, through Black and brown communities. In some instances, the government took homes by eminent domain.

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/07/9847...terstate highway,took homes by eminent domain.
 
AProudLefty said:
Yeah and you think it is not true.

It's a fact that there was systemic racism at that time.
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I can pretty much say conclusively it's not true. To accept that, you have to believe that the engineers, planners, etc., were the equivalent of KKK members seeking revenge on minorities. Instead, I believe the designers simply sought the best path for the highways and that's where they went.

In the 1950's the people designing those highways wouldn't have considered for a nanosecond people's feelings, or the aesthetics of those highways. They would have gone for efficiency in terms of cost and end results. It's an historian's fallacy to apply today's mores, values, and social ideas on people in the past.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I can pretty much say conclusively it's not true. To accept that, you have to believe that the engineers, planners, etc., were the equivalent of KKK members seeking revenge on minorities. Instead, I believe the designers simply sought the best path for the highways and that's where they went.

In the 1950's the people designing those highways wouldn't have considered for a nanosecond people's feelings, or the aesthetics of those highways. They would have gone for efficiency in terms of cost and end results. It's an historian's fallacy to apply today's mores, values, and social ideas on people in the past.
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Who said anything about revenge? Revenge for what?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That's opinion. Show me the source documents or at least a reference to the source documents for that.
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Poor dumb white boy, just look at NY, I was there and saw Black and Hispanic neighborhoods bisected


You wouldn't know as an ignorant white toad

 
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T. A. Gardner said:
I am ridiculing a moron (Buttplug). Anyone who thinks highways are "racist" or is focused, as in this thread, on the racial make up of construction workers is a moron, particularly when they are in such a high position.
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Buttigieg is a moron? That shows how little you know. he is very intelligent and well-spoken.
 
guno said:
Planners of the interstate highway system, which began to take shape after the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956, routed some highways directly, and sometimes purposefully, through Black and brown communities. In some instances, the government took homes by eminent domain.

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/07/9847...terstate highway,took homes by eminent domain.
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I-10 in the area I grew up in went directly through an almost 100% white town , Metairie, LA, at the time it was constructed.
 
guno said:
Poor dumb white boy, just look at NY, I was there and saw Black and Hispanic neighborhoods bisected


You wouldn't know as an ignorant white toad

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It's great that that video absolutely confirms what I claimed. It wasn't racist at the time, and today it's radical Leftists like Buttplug that are making a totally bogus claim that they were. The video claims urban renewal was the racist underpinning, but that is untrue then and it's untrue now. Downtown areas in many major cities are urban deserts after 5 pm when all the government workers and few other businesses there go home. That's a function of the rise of suburbs and exburbs.

The Progressive Left wants an utopian return to some imaginary downtown with a vibrant nightlife that isn't happening, so they try to tailor urban renewal to fit that ideal. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now.
 
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