Mike Huckabee slams pregnant Natalie Portman

actually I have.....you've apparently chosen to go off on an irrelevant tangent in order to attack what's actually being said......fail.....

Well, then you read between the lines and need glasses that correct your narrow vision!

And tangents are usually Dixie's forte, so now I know you don't read him!
 
Ninth Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness???

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Dixie, you keep saying we are glorifying unwed pregnancy... I keep asking how so? How has Portman's pregnancy been glorified? I did not even know she was pregnant or single till Huckleberry said something..


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Dixie, and others... Show me how Portman's pregnancy has been glorified?

I did not even know she was pregnant or that she was single until Huckleberry said something.
 
Dumoclueless... In case you haven't noticed, the GOP is a little short on "skilled politicians" and that's not really what conservatives are most concerned with at this point. Look, our country is in big trouble, and now is not the time to worried about cosmetic bullshit, I don't give a damn if the next GOP nominee ever was a "skilled politician!" I don't even care if they haven't held public office! We need someone to change the course of the ship dramatically, not just take over at the helm.

What we need, is someone who has principled convictions, and is passionate about what they are saying. Huckabee fits that bill for me, I haven't heard much on what he would do as president, so I can't say I would vote for him over someone else at this time. But the man does speak from his heart and is genuine, and doesn't care if it's not the "PC" or "skilled political" thing to do at the time! That's an admirable quality to me, whether you give a damn about it or not. He has the highest rated program in his time slot on the highest rated news network, so obviously, he resounds with someone out there!

The point I am making to you, is this... You are willingly joining the left in these "smear campaigns" against people on the right, because you don't like their religious beliefs. That is religious bigotry and intolerance. You disqualify Huck because he is a Baptist minister, plain and simple. He didn't have to say something "stupid" (which he didn't)... you already didn't like Huck because you are an intolerant religious bigot. You did the same thing with Sarah Palin. You jumped right in bed with the left in destroying her credibility and proclaiming her 'unelectable' and nit picked every word she said until you found something that resonated enough to kill any chance she had... so that's TWO down, Dumbo... how many more are you going to help them destroy?

I suppose we have to settle for some pro-choice elitist like Romney, for you to be satisfied. But do you really believe this man will deliver us core Reagan conservatism? I don't. In fact, I think he would be about like George W. Bush without the Religion. He is pretty much a liberal who has fooled north-easterners into believing he is conservative!

The only other "skilled political" candidate we have is Newt! Now, do you not think Newt is going to get the Royal Treatment just like Palin and Huck? Do you not believe Newt can be destroyed by things he has said, things he has done, things he might say or do with the intense focus of nitpickers who want to exploit everything he says or does? Newt will probably be the easiest of ALL to destroy this way! And heaven forbid he mentions God or something, you'll be right there with the liberals in proclaiming his political career over as well!

Great Going Dumboclueless! Maybe you'll get mentioned in Obama's '12 Victory Speech?
Seriously. Dood. I don't drink the kook-ade, if I see somebody f-ing up I say so. When I point out missteps from Obama I get hassled by Onceler when I point out Huckabee's you get all bent. I don't really care, to me it is, "What is that politician doing that more successful politicians don't?"

Do you think Reagan would have been naming Natalie? There's a whole different level of success between Reagan and Huckabee, and as long as Huckabee continues to allow others to control his message it will remain that way.
 
Seriously. Dood. I don't drink the kook-ade, if I see somebody f-ing up I say so. When I point out missteps from Obama I get hassled by Onceler when I point out Huckabee's you get all bent. I don't really care, to me it is, "What is that politician doing that more successful politicians don't?"

Do you think Reagan would have been naming Natalie? There's a whole different level of success between Reagan and Huckabee, and as long as Huckabee continues to allow others to control his message it will remain that way.

Not disagreeing with your point~

But do you not recall how the media made Reagan out to be as dumb as a box of rocks?
 
Not disagreeing with your point~

But do you not recall how the media made Reagan out to be as dumb as a box of rocks?
Yeah, but he owned in the debates and turned that around on them. Once it was clear he not only wasn't dumb, but that they were attempting to cast him in propaganda people stopped listening to the propaganda.

I believe that this was the beginning of a long downward spiral for mainstream media. They continue that same pattern and wonder what is causing them to lose the public... it was a matter of trust.
 
I listened to the clip where Huckabee discusses pregnancy out of wedlock. I think his point was actually not offensive. He stated that when most women find themselves in this situation they are not bringing home a million bucks...he's right.

The fact that Natalie Portmen is so successful and well liked naturally makes for a message that it's an OK decision to get pregnant before marriage. Stats show that this is not the best or ideal situation for the children of such situations. Like it or not she is a popular public personality and what she does communicates itself to the public at large.

I have also thought about the comparison to Bristol Palin. Bristol Palin spoke out honestly about her behavior and the consequences. She made it very clear that she is fortunate to have a good support system of finances and family, but that she wishes she had not been so irresponsible...that's a lot different message then is often the case in Hollywood situations of this nature.
 
Yeah, but he owned in the debates and turned that around on them. Once it was clear he not only wasn't dumb, but that they were attempting to cast him in propaganda people stopped listening to the propaganda.

I believe that this was the beginning of a long downward spiral for mainstream media. They continue that same pattern and wonder what is causing them to lose the public... it was a matter of trust.

He was a mediocre actor and this is what came across when he debated! You all forget that about Ronnie!:loveu:
 
Seriously. Dood. I don't drink the kook-ade, if I see somebody f-ing up I say so. When I point out missteps from Obama I get hassled by Onceler when I point out Huckabee's you get all bent. I don't really care, to me it is, "What is that politician doing that more successful politicians don't?"

Do you think Reagan would have been naming Natalie? There's a whole different level of success between Reagan and Huckabee, and as long as Huckabee continues to allow others to control his message it will remain that way.

It was the great thing about Ronnie, but the times were different too! He didn't name names because he didn't want anyone talking to his kids about their home life!
 
I listened to the clip where Huckabee discusses pregnancy out of wedlock. I think his point was actually not offensive. He stated that when most women find themselves in this situation they are not bringing home a million bucks...he's right.

The fact that Natalie Portmen is so successful and well liked naturally makes for a message that it's an OK decision to get pregnant before marriage. Stats show that this is not the best or ideal situation for the children of such situations. Like it or not she is a popular public personality and what she does communicates itself to the public at large.

I have also thought about the comparison to Bristol Palin. Bristol Palin spoke out honestly about her behavior and the consequences. She made it very clear that she is fortunate to have a good support system of finances and family, but that she wishes she had not been so irresponsible...that's a lot different message then is often the case in Hollywood situations of this nature.
Right. IMO, It isn't that the message was necessarily bad. I'm speaking of campaign strategy, not message.

I do the same thing with the left. I don't agree with them, but I can tell when the message is getting lost regardless. When I point it out it is always the devotees that get all excited when I speak about whomever.

I'm not a Huckabee devotee, nor am I a detractor. If he expects to win he should do what he is doing at the moment. Lay low for a bit, let others get up on that stage. You can make small mistakes when you aren't the only one on stage, but if you are... You better be perfect or people will remember you standing there with that shoe in your mouth...
 
I listened to the clip where Huckabee discusses pregnancy out of wedlock. I think his point was actually not offensive. He stated that when most women find themselves in this situation they are not bringing home a million bucks...he's right.

The fact that Natalie Portmen is so successful and well liked naturally makes for a message that it's an OK decision to get pregnant before marriage. Stats show that this is not the best or ideal situation for the children of such situations. Like it or not she is a popular public personality and what she does communicates itself to the public at large.

I have also thought about the comparison to Bristol Palin. Bristol Palin spoke out honestly about her behavior and the consequences. She made it very clear that she is fortunate to have a good support system of finances and family, but that she wishes she had not been so irresponsible...that's a lot different message then is often the case in Hollywood situations of this nature.

Huck's comments on their own weren't awful, though it is a very BAD idea to single out an individual. First, Portman is engaged. Second, the right seems to think that any coverage whatsoever of a happily pregnant engaged female celebrity is "glamorizing." What is the Hollywood press expected to do? "Ssssssshh...don't mention that she's pregnant. Make it a weight-gain thing - think about middle America!"

Medved's commentary during the interview was actually much more about moralizing...
 
Huck's comments on their own weren't awful, though it is a very BAD idea to single out an individual. First, Portman is engaged. Second, the right seems to think that any coverage whatsoever of a happily pregnant engaged female celebrity is "glamorizing." What is the Hollywood press expected to do? "Ssssssshh...don't mention that she's pregnant. Make it a weight-gain thing - think about middle America!"

Medved's commentary during the interview was actually much more about moralizing...
Yes, if you single out somebody (or allow the interviewer to do so for you), you actually lose the message in the "He said it about Natalie!" outcry. Even if I don't believe in the message I can see when the forest is lost because you got people to look at the trees.
 
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