Mexico ready to hit the US where it hurts: Corn

sear said:
1) It makes me the person who is aware that creating NEW varieties of grain increases rather than decreases the varieties of grain;

a) I never denied it.

b) I never asserted anything to the contrary.

c) The standard I applied is called "reality". Perhaps you'll encounter it some day.

Meanwhile, the genetic diversity in our crops like corn is not expanding, but being drastically reduced.

"2) It makes me the person who corrects your more obvious errors"

Superb!
Please be sure to let us all know when that will begin!

"3) It makes me the person who knows where the Reply With Quote button is"

You have a secure and unchallenged embrace of delusion.

You parading my superior format skills as ignorance is comical; much like most of whatever other delusions you post. Please keep it up. It helps making these recreational sites so entertaining.
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all three of your points are errors.....in fact you contradict your claim in your own post ....."I never asserted anything to the contrary" and "the genetic diversity in our crops like corn is not expanding, but being drastically reduced"......thanks for playing......if you wish to try again, insert more quarters....
 
The lie:

"all three of your points are errors.....in fact you contradict your claim in your own post ....."I never asserted anything to the contrary" and "the genetic diversity in our crops like corn is not expanding, but being drastically reduced"......thanks for playing......if you wish to try again, insert more quarters...." PP #121

The truth:

Expanding Monoculture | Union of Concerned Scientists

www.ucsusa.org/food_and_agriculture...enetic-engineering/expanding-monoculture.html

Large-acreage field crops—corn, cotton, soybeans, canola, and now alfalfa— make up the bulk of Monsanto's products, in part because of the high cost of ...
The GMO Seed Monopoly: Fewer Choices, Higher Prices | Food ...

www.fooddemocracynow.org/blog/2013/oct/4/the_gmo_seed_monopoly_fewer_choices_higher_prices

Oct 4, 2013 ... by Ken Roseboro,. How biotechnology companies monopolize seed markets, escalate seed prices, and eliminate farmer choice.
The Next Green Revolution - National Geographic

www.nationalgeographic.com/foodfeatures/green-revolution/

Through selective breeding, Norman Borlaug, an American biologist, created a ... A recent study by the U.S. Department of Agriculture found that pesticide use on corn crops has ... Monsanto's Roundup Ready crops are genetically modified to be immune to the .... “With higher temperatures, the whitefly's range is expanding.
GMO Factory Monsanto's High-Tech Plans to Feed the World ...

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-07-03/gmo-factory-monsantos-high-tech-plans-to-feed-the-world

Jul 4, 2014 ... Inside Monsanto, America's Third-Most-Hated Company ... Other spliced-in genes confer immunity to the weed killers Spears uses, greatly simplifying his spraying schedule. ... Oil a century ago or the private military contractor Blackwater. .... “For a grower producing a corn crop in the U.S., he's making ...
Monocultures: The Myth…the Reality…the Future | Beyond the Rows

monsantoblog.com/2015/08/17/monocultures-the-myththe-realitythe-future/

Aug 17, 2015 ... Monsanto's Chief Technology officer explains how monoculture started and ... Planting and harvesting of crops are faster and more efficient if farm equipment ... pool – and dramatically expanding the genetic diversity in farmers' fields. ... A leading U.S. corn hybrid that contains the SmartStax® trait package, ...
Hungarians Just Destroyed All Monsanto GMO Corn Fields | UPRISER

upriser.com/posts/hungarians-just-destroyed-all-monsanto-gmo-corn-fields

Hungary-Burns-Monsanto-Crops-740x477 ... Hungary has taken a bold stand against biotech giant Monsanto and genetic modification by ... Here in the US GMO Corn is not controlled by the FDA but by the EPA because it is .... as a means of accessing and generating genetic diversity available to breeding programs.
Monsanto's Rise to Power | Simonelli | Fresh Ink: Essays From ...

ejournals.bc.edu/ojs/index.php/freshink/article/view/1114/1085

Their main focus is to expand and be successful, but in Monsanto's path of ... Today, 8.25 million farmers grow genetically modified crops on about 200 million ... has their “products” patented preventing their use without extensive contracting . ... In 2004, 85% of all U.S. soy crops, 45% of all U.S. corn crops, 75% of all U.S. ...
Banking on Wild Relatives to Feed the World - Gastronomica

www.gastronomica.org/banking-on-wild-relatives-to-feed-the-world/

Jan 22, 2016 ... The wild ancestor from which domesticated corn was bred, teosinte is scarcely ... At the height of gene and seed banking expansion in the ... The Global Crop Diversity Trust (hereafter the Trust), American University .... Monsanto's interest in teosinte, after all, was not to preserve ancestral maize for posterity.
Genetically Modified Forest Planned for U.S. Southeast - Scientific ...

www.scientificamerican.com/article/eucalyptus-genetically-modified-pine-tree-southwest-forest/

Jan 29, 2010 ... The companies' push into genetically modified trees, led by their joint ... because, unlike annual farm crops, they live and grow for many years -- has long ... It is now seeking to greatly expand the number and location of trees allowed ... from Mendel Biotechnology, a prime R&D contractor with Monsanto Co., ...
The merger of two mega corporate rogues: Bayer & Monsanto | AHRP

ahrp.org/the-merger-of-two-mega-corporate-rogues-bayer-monsanto/

Oct 14, 2016 ... Monsanto is the most hated agricultural producer of genetically ... Industrialized corporate agriculture has supplanted bio-diverse multi-crop farming with monoculture .... 12); GMO crops are not feeding the hungry; 40% of US corn goes for fuel, ... #4: Expanding Monoculture Monsanto's emphasis on limited ...

You're welcome to quote me PP. But your inability to comprehend simple English meaning doesn't render me wrong. It exposes you as fundamentally ignorant.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
That's a serious problems with these nativist Wacko. They're utterly irrational. They want to build a wall around this nation and respond to any contact with the outside world with violence, xenophobia, fear and bigotry. They are clueless to the current interconnectedness of the world and how their point of view was outdated several centuries ago.

If Trumps trade war hurts farmers they'll just demonize Mexicans even more and never, ever accept that maybe, just maybe, they fucked up.
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POST OF THE WEEK :hand:
 
sear said:
The lie:


Monoculture
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I know, right?.......perhaps you shouldn't google "monoculture" since its a ridiculous concept to describe the creation of hundreds of new varieties of grain to grow in hundreds of different conditions........nobody is preventing anyone from growing any type of grain they want.......you are perfectly free to buy some land and grow any seed you want, even seed that doesn't do well in the local environment......no one is stopping you......
 
Trump’s Trade War May Have Already Begun

LONDON — America’s traditional allies are on the lookout for new friends.

They have heard the mantra “America First” from the new president, divining a Trump doctrine: global cooperation last. Europeans have taken note of Mr. Trump’s denigration of the European Union and his apparent esteem for the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin. In Asia and Latin America, leaders have absorbed the deepening possibility that Mr. Trump will deliver on threats to impose punitive tariffs on Mexican and Chinese imports, provoking a trade war that will damage economic growth and eliminate jobs around the world.

Some allies are shifting focus to other potential partners for new sources of trade and investment, relationships that could influence political, diplomatic and military ties. Many are looking to China, which has adroitly capitalized on a leadership vacuum in world affairs by offering itself — ironies notwithstanding — as a champion for global engagement.

“We’ve always said that America is our best friend,” Jeroen Dijsselbloem, president of the Eurogroup — comprising finance ministers from countries sharing the euro currency — said in an interview with The New York Times on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, this month. “If that’s no longer the case, if that’s what we need to understand from Donald Trump, then of course Europe will look for new friends.”

“China is a very strong candidate for that,” he added. “The Chinese involvement in Europe in terms of investment is already very high and expanding. If you push away your friends, you mustn’t be surprised if the friends start looking for new friends.”

On Wednesday, Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany spoke by telephone with Premier Li Keqiang of China. “The two spoke in favor of free trade and a stable world trade order,” a German government spokesman later said in a written statement.

The swift reassessment of trade relations — a realm in which Mr. Trump is directly threatening the order that has prevailed since the end of World War II — only amplifies the potential for a shake-up of the broader geopolitical framework.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/business/economy/trumps-mexico-china-tariff-trade.html?_r=0
 
The first casualties of Trump's trade wars are Texas cattle ranchers

KYLE, Tex. - If the first casualty of war is truth, then the first casualties of trade war are the working man and woman. And first among them is about to be the iconic Texas rancher.

Here in the rolling pastures of*bright, green spring grass*at the edge of the Texas Hill Country, the handful of large spreads prosper from a wet winter. The short-horned charlois breed, imported from France via Mexico, grow thick and wide, their white coats bright in the sunshine of impending spring. The charlois makes for some of the finest grass-fed beef in the world. Now that a years-long drought has broken, ranchers can count on trucking in less of that expensive coastal grass they require in the dry months.

But the Texas cattle rancher now faces a new threat: the Trump administration's blundering, blustering trade policy. By threatening a trade war with Mexico within days of inauguration, the president helped trigger a slide in cattle futures. Mexico is a major export market. By sinking the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the new administration cut off long-sought access to the Japanese market. Now banks have raised the conditions for collateral for loans for ranchers.

Texas ranchers, though, will not be alone for long. Beef producers from Nebraska to the Dakotas face the same problems. So do grain farmers in Kansas and the snow-covered corn fields of Iowa, just like tomato farmers in California and Florida and autoworkers in Michigan, longshoremen, truckers and railway workers in Miami and Houston and Long Beach. These will be the first casualties of a trade war.
http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/c...lties-trumps-trade-wars-texas-cattle-ranchers
 
blackascoal said:
“We’ve always said that America is our best friend said in an interview with The New York Times on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, this month. “If that’s no longer the case, if that’s what we need to understand from Donald Trump, then of course Europe will look for new friends.”
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was that in response to a NYT reporter's question "What are you going to do now that Trump says America is no longer Europe's best friend?".......
 
blackascoal said:
The first casualties of Trump's trade wars are Texas cattle ranchers

KYLE, Tex. - If the first casualty of war is truth, then the first casualties of trade war are the working man and woman. And first among them is about to be the iconic Texas rancher.

Here in the rolling pastures of*bright, green spring grass*at the edge of the Texas Hill Country, the handful of large spreads prosper from a wet winter. The short-horned charlois breed, imported from France via Mexico, grow thick and wide, their white coats bright in the sunshine of impending spring. The charlois makes for some of the finest grass-fed beef in the world. Now that a years-long drought has broken, ranchers can count on trucking in less of that expensive coastal grass they require in the dry months.

But the Texas cattle rancher now faces a new threat: the Trump administration's blundering, blustering trade policy. By threatening a trade war with Mexico within days of inauguration, the president helped trigger a slide in cattle futures. Mexico is a major export market. By sinking the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the new administration cut off long-sought access to the Japanese market. Now banks have raised the conditions for collateral for loans for ranchers.

Texas ranchers, though, will not be alone for long. Beef producers from Nebraska to the Dakotas face the same problems. So do grain farmers in Kansas and the snow-covered corn fields of Iowa, just like tomato farmers in California and Florida and autoworkers in Michigan, longshoremen, truckers and railway workers in Miami and Houston and Long Beach. These will be the first casualties of a trade war.
http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/c...lties-trumps-trade-wars-texas-cattle-ranchers
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So begins the ruination.
 
blackascoal said:
The first casualties of Trump's trade wars are Texas cattle ranchers

KYLE, Tex. - If the first casualty of war is truth, then the first casualties of trade war are the working man and woman. And first among them is about to be the iconic Texas rancher.

Here in the rolling pastures of*bright, green spring grass*at the edge of the Texas Hill Country, the handful of large spreads prosper from a wet winter. The short-horned charlois breed, imported from France via Mexico, grow thick and wide, their white coats bright in the sunshine of impending spring. The charlois makes for some of the finest grass-fed beef in the world. Now that a years-long drought has broken, ranchers can count on trucking in less of that expensive coastal grass they require in the dry months.

But the Texas cattle rancher now faces a new threat: the Trump administration's blundering, blustering trade policy. By threatening a trade war with Mexico within days of inauguration, the president helped trigger a slide in cattle futures. Mexico is a major export market. By sinking the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the new administration cut off long-sought access to the Japanese market. Now banks have raised the conditions for collateral for loans for ranchers.

Texas ranchers, though, will not be alone for long. Beef producers from Nebraska to the Dakotas face the same problems. So do grain farmers in Kansas and the snow-covered corn fields of Iowa, just like tomato farmers in California and Florida and autoworkers in Michigan, longshoremen, truckers and railway workers in Miami and Houston and Long Beach. These will be the first casualties of a trade war.
http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/c...lties-trumps-trade-wars-texas-cattle-ranchers
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So begins the ruination.
 
tinfoil said:
Now American farmers can use their corn to make more ethanol. We can save the planet!
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Weekly Livestock Comments

FED CATTLE: Fed cattle traded $1 higher compared to last week on live basis. Prices on a live basis were mainly $119 to $120 while dressed prices were mainly $190. The 5-area weighted average prices thru Thursday were $119.75 live, up $0.99 from last week and $190.06 dressed, up $0.28 from a week ago. A year ago prices were $131.70 live and $205.96 dressed. Fed cattle prices bounced back this week which should continue to support the contentment of cattle feeders. Cattle feeders suffered through many months of losses, but 2017 is helping to rectify the losses experienced in 2016. Deferred live cattle contracts are trading at severe discounts to the nearby contract which has cattle feeders marketing cattle at a steady pace which should keep them current in their marketings. Though futures are pricing in sharp discounts, there does not appear to be any reason to be bearish on live cattle. The live cattle market is expected to remain fairly strong through the early spring months with softer prices coming in the summer when a larger supply of cattle are ready to be harvested.

BEEF CUTOUT: At midday Friday, the Choice cutout was $188.04 down $0.67 from Thursday and down $6.11 from last Friday. The Select cutout was $186.56 up $0.74 from Thursday and down $3.32 from last Friday. The Choice Select spread was $1.48 compared to $3.40 a week ago. The packing industry is not excited about the shift in leverage to the cattle feeder as finished cattle maintain relatively strong values while wholesale beef prices flounder. Packers are not in the worst situation they have ever experienced, but it is tough to achieve positive margins when cattle are being purchased on a dressed weight basis at a higher price than the composite boxed beef value is selling for. One hindrance to beef prices is the increased production. Beef production increased 8 percent in the fourth quarter of 2016 compared to a year earlier and beef production is expected to continue increasing relative to the previous year throughout 2017. Beef exports have also improved, but exports have not been able to keep up with the increased production. Beef is not the only meat experiencing increased production. Pork and poultry production remain elevated, but the export market has been kind to both species as the growth in exports has managed to outpace the increased production. Meat markets will hinge on the success of the export market in 2017.

OUTLOOK: Prices were mixed for cattle being traded through weekly auction markets this week in Tennessee. There was no solid trend either way which is representative of futures market. It is evident producers are concerned about calf and feeder cattle prices declining further which is likely to happen, but there is not going to be some precipitous decline similar to the fall of 2016. It is hard to believe, but cattle prices are actually fairly strong relatively speaking. If one is able to put the time period from 2013 through 2016 out of mind and compare 2017 prices with 2011 and 2012 then things do not look so bad. Prices in the first month of 2017 are 5.4 percent higher than January 2011 and 14.3 percent lower than 2012. However, it is important to remember that the spring of 2012 was when cattle prices made their first price run, but it was negated by wide spread drought. In the near term, lightweight calf prices will continue to escalate as stocker producers search for calves to put on grass. The calf market will hold strong through most of March and maybe the first couple of weeks of April before deteriorating through the summer and fall. Alternatively, feeder cattle could experience a week moment in the next month or so, but cattle ready for the feedlot will hold their own as the market moves into May and the summer months. There does appear to be some favorable buying opportunities for stocker producers the next few weeks. This buying opportunity has even more value if the expected cost of gain is low. Continuing with the feeder cattle market, cattle feeders appear to be looking for heavier feeder cattle. The reason for this is because of the price spread between the nearby live cattle contract and the deferred live cattle contracts. The futures market is placing more value on animals in the near future than animals late in the year. The two markets will converge, but it is most likely the futures market will increase more than the spot market will decline. Such a price movement will bode well for cattle feeders, but it will hamper the lighter weight feeder cattle.

FRIDAY’S FUTURES MARKET CLOSING PRICES: Friday’s closing prices were as follows: Live/fed cattle –February $116.40 -1.25; April $113.15 -1.68; June $104.28 -1.00; Feeder cattle –March $122.08 -1.55; April $122.45 -1.60; May $121.80 -1.35; August $123.60 -1.15; March corn closed at $3.75 up $0.05 from Thursday.

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Department of Agricultural Economics, University of Wisconsin-River Falls

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blackascoal said:
Mexico ready to retaliate by hurting American corn farmers

Mexico is one of the top buyers of American corn in the world today. And Mexican senator Armando Rios Piter, who leads a congressional committee on foreign relations, says he will introduce a bill this week where Mexico will buy corn from Brazil and Argentina instead of the United States.

It's one of the first signs of potential concrete action from Mexico in response to President Trump's threats against the country.

"I'm going to send a bill for the corn that we are buying in the Midwest and...change to Brazil or Argentina," Rios Piter, 43, told told CNN's Leyla Santiago on Sunday at an anti-Trump protest in Mexico City.
He added: It's a "good way to tell them that this hostile relationship has consequences, hope that it changes."

American corn goes into a lot of the country's food. In Mexico City, from fine dining restaurants to taco stands on the street, corn-based favorites like tacos can be found everywhere.

American farmers sent $2.4 billion of corn to Mexico in 2015, the most recent year of available data. In 1995, the year after NAFTA became law, corn exports to Mexico were a mere $391 million.
Experts say such a bill would be very costly to U.S. farmers.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/13/news/economy/mexico-trump-us-corn/index.html
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Burn in hell, America! May the filthy feet of Mexico run roughshod all over you!!!

-- The Left
 
"all three of your points are errors.....in fact you contradict your claim in your own post ....."I never asserted anything to the contrary" and "the genetic diversity in our crops like corn is not expanding, but being drastically reduced"......thanks for playing......if you wish to try again, insert more quarters.... " #121

That's contradiction, not refutation.

"Monoculture
I know, right?.......perhaps you shouldn't google "monoculture" since its a ridiculous concept to describe the creation of hundreds of new varieties of grain to grow in hundreds of different conditions...."

I've already addressed this extensively in post #123. You disagreement if any is with U.C.S. et al.

"....nobody is preventing anyone from growing any type of grain they want...."

Technically that's not entirely true, for reason I've already explained. Monsanto has engineered some of their seed grain to be fertile for one planting; but the harvest from that planting yields infertile seed.

"...you are perfectly free to buy some land and grow any seed you want, even seed that doesn't do well in the local environment......no one is stopping you......"

You remind me of my sister. She also states the obvious, and pretends she's providing constructive information. It makes you both seem quite foolish.
 
the guy who can't figure out how to use a computer said:
"....nobody is preventing anyone from growing any type of grain they want...."

Technically that's not entirely true, for reason I've already explained. Monsanto has engineered some of their seed grain to be fertile for one planting; but the harvest from that planting yields infertile seed.
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you see, your error is in thinking that 1) Monsanto grows only one kind of seed, 2) thinking Monsanto is the only company modifying seeds and 3) thinking that people can't plant their own seed if they want to.......so many errors for such a small mind.......

You remind me of my sister. She also states the obvious
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and she knows you better than I, but we both realize you are oblivious to the obvious.....
 
"Monsanto has engineered some of their seed grain to be fertile for one planting" the guy that's been using computers since the 1960's, knows multiple programming languages and has 6 computers & 3 view screens visible from this chair

PP, you have a reading comprehension problem. I clearly, explicitly wrote: "some of".
If you were right (when's that ever going to begin?!) my wording proves you wrong.

Same story with the rest of your drivel. Yours is grotesque misinterpretation of my comments, and my command of the subject matter.

"Children would rather be praised than punished, but they'd rather be punished than ignored." psychologist Joy Browne

NO WONDER you like getting smacked down so often!
 
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