Mexico Cancels

J Craft said:
BS, I strongly disagree- Trump needs Mexico to know who has the stronger hand. The diplomatic responsibility of a president isn't about being liked, it's about politely letting other leaders know you understand the relationship. The Mexican president now understands president Trump is in a postition to discuss how Mexico pays for the Wall- which BTW helps Mexico control their own problems with illegals pouring in from their southern border.
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you don't bitch slap a foreign leader, and then expect him to travel here. Negotiations work best when there is some respect
( which allows a real give and take) -between the parties- which allows for real movement.

Yes the US is in a much stronger position, but the president of Mexico has high domestic negatives- and standing up to the Yanquis is an easy political win for him..
Get him here -get the smiling handshakes, shake him down- and then thank him for the cooperation..

Good point on the Central Americans pouring across Mexico's southern border.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
So if you were to travel to the State of Arizona do you believe they have the right to question your citizenship status given that is a power enumerated by the US. Constitution to the Federal government?
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Makes no difference to me if it's a State official or a Fed official.
 
anatta said:
you don't bitch slap a foreign leader, and then expect him to travel here. Negotiations work best when there is some respect
( which allows a real give and take) -between the parties- which allows for real movement.

Yes the US is in a much stronger position, but the president of Mexico has high domestic negatives- and standing up to the Yanquis is an easy political win for him..
Get him here -get the smiling handshakes, shake him down- and then thank him for the cooperation..

Good point on the Central Americans pouring across Mexico's southern border.
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He wasn't "bitch slapped" he was put on notice. Mexicos president has been crowing how Mexico is NOT paying for the Wall. He's been put on notice. The style you suggest is silly. Nieto would just go on crowing. TRUMP is right to publically point out the one sided trade deal. Now Mexico's president will have to eat crow- he could have, and should have, made it seem like he would be partnering with his "good neighbor" the US, to help both countries stem illegal immigration, as well as draft a robust worker visa program. Nieto made his own bed.
 
"I suspect you need to go back to kindergarten." S #31

"Back"?!
I'm so flattered that you presume I've graduated KINDERGARTEN !!
WOW!
What an ego boost! I appreciate the flattery!

"Mexico has no right to flood the U.S. with illegals by the millions from multiple nations, to include terrorist nations hostile to the U.S."

The U.S. has no legal authorization to around the globe serve as the planet's vigilante in simply exterminating SUSPECTS that have not been:
- arrested
- incarcerated
- charged
- tried
- convicted
- sentenced.

Mexico has the legal right, the sovereign obligation to enforce the law WITHIN its own sovereign borders.
Whatever happens outside Mexican jurisdiction is the responsibility of that jurisdiction.

If you want to cede U.S. jurisdiction to Mexico, make it happen cupcake.
Until then. Shut the front door.

"Mexico has no right to aid in the distribution of narcotics into the U.S. which has caused epidemic levels of overdose."

Right.
If you ever graduate high school and progress to college, you may learn about the economics of "supply and demand".

You blame the Mexican supply.

But it's the U.S. demand that's perpetuating the black markets.

It would place a per capita burden on Mexico many times worse than the burden it would impose on the U.S.

"And the U.S. should care why? Mexico couldn't care less about the impact of it's millions of illegals that devour resources." #31

Because in the Obama administration Mexico was not merely a faithful trading partner but a strategic ally.
Turning a friend into an enemy is a most fundamental blunder.

And as far as illegals devouring resources, the most prestigious organizations that have studied this economic issues at highest level report that illegal aliens are a net economic benefit to the U.S.

Do some of them draw welfare?
Perhaps.

BUT !!

Subtract the detriment the serve from the benefit they provide, and the economists that have run the numbers report their net impact is $positive.

Asperger's strikes again!!

You're welcome, First Graders.
 
The cost of the wall is roughly 11% of Mexico's GDP.

Who thinks Mexico would be in a position to pay 11% of their GDP for the wall?
 
sear said:
The Trumpster's book title is The Art Of The Deal.

Problem is; Trump isn't flipping real estate anymore. He's in the big boy league.
Trump bluffed the Mexican leader:
- If Mexico isn't going to pay for the wall, perhaps their leader shouldn't attend the scheduled meeting. -

Mexico called the Donald's bluff. The meeting is off.

It's the problem psychologist Joy Browne so eloquently explains. If you don't want to tug-o’-war with someone, drop your end of the rope.

That's what Mexico has done. And now Trump can enjoy for lunch the crap sandwich he's made for himself.

"Don't you remember when Obama attacked Arizona for wanting to stop illegal immigration?" #7 Bd

That never happened.
"wanting to stop illegal immigration" is an objective.
Aridzona wasn't attacked from an objective. Arizona was blocked from illegal methodology.
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Who gives a fuck about the President of Mexico?
 
You are fools if you believe Mexico could pay for the wall even if they wanted to.
 
tsuke said:
we have so much of their wealth on our side to loot it doesnt matter what they want.
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It does not matter what they want, because they don't have it. You guys will believe anything.

PT Barnum was right.
 
Jarod said:
The cost of the wall is roughly 11% of Mexico's GDP.

Who thinks Mexico would be in a position to pay 11% of their GDP for the wall?
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Last time I checked, Mexico's GDP was over a 1.1 trillion USD. Where did you learn to do math?
 
If Mexico were to pay 11% of its GDP on something like a wall it would ruin their economy and destabilize all of Central America.
 
J Craft said:
Spread over 20 years what would the per annum be with a modest 3% interest?
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You are correct I misplaced the decimal. Still 1.4 would decimate the already fragile Mexican economy. And 3% interest is silly, to repay the American Taxpayer it would be much higher. So if you spread it out over 20 years or not, it would have a 20 year effect.

You understand that GDP is not tax revenue? Right?

You have to understand also that if Mexico's economy suffers, it negatively affects our economy.
 
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