crowonapost
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No. It was many years ago & I did not know much about mental illness. It was... a learning curve.
Mental Illness
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No. It was many years ago & I did not know much about mental illness. It was... a learning curve.
crowonapost
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Oh jeez you don't even know the stories. All I can say is everything worked out great for me as a father and I have a healthy daughter in college. The deep end started when my daughter was a freshman in high school. I got full custody, so it all worked out.
excommunicated
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You are a good person.
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They should be compelled to take their meds.
If they're a danger to themselves or others I'd say yes. And if they had a doctor's authorization and family agreement.
Ronald Reagan’s shameful legacy: Violence, the homeless, mental illness
As president and governor of California, the GOP icon led the worst policies on mental illness in generations
https://www.salon.com/2013/09/29/ro..._legacy_violence_the_homeless_mental_illness/
Their hands are tied, you can not force an adult to do anything they do not want to do.
cawacko
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If they shouldn't have been let out in the first place why not put them all back in?
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Let's go Brandon!
That's rich, coming from someone who supported ObamaCare.
SmarterthanYou
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and yet you want government to have that very power................
MAGA MAN
Let's go Brandon!
You've actually got a very solid point there...
? That's what I said. If they were in because they were a danger to themselves or others, they should go back. Many of those released had nowhere to go, couldn't get a job, didn't have money, didn't take their meds. They were just thrown out without resources. I think that was horrible.
cawacko
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It's definitely good to know our history policy wise but if these hospitals were that good I'd think they would have been brought back over the past 40 to 50 years. We don't hear politicians talking about them today
So that's why I was asking if you wanted that same set up as 40 to 50 years ago
No doubt because money. At least that was a big reason here, the state was always crying poor.
What a difficult thing to read. You're right; this is no easy solution. Other than basically incarcerating the mentally ill and the addicts behind locked doors and windows, there isn't much to be done. Various religious and mental health advocates can provide temporary shelters, food, what medical care they will accept, clothing, and so on.... but to a lot of these guys being inside 24/7 is not tolerable.
So sad to see this beautiful city coming to this. Is this a problem in similar cities in Europe? How are they dealing with the homeless, the mentally ill, the addicts?
They cost money, and the taxpayers don't want to pay for it. Certainly the mentally-ill cannot.
My only male cousin is 68 now. He is a schizophrenic. As a young man in his 20s he was briefly confined in a mental health facility. It was the only time since the disease manifested that he was treated with medication and was able to at least attempt to work PT at janitor-type jobs. BTW, he has an IQ of over 150. Then funding for the facility went away and all the patients were dispersed. He went back home to live with my aunt and his sister. When my aunt was approaching death, she begged my girl cousin to take care of her brother, and willed the house to her for them to stay in. And so my cousin kept him there for decades. Sometimes she had to sleep behind a locked door with her German shepherd and a loaded .357. He got cancer a couple of years ago and finally agreed to go live in an assisted living facility where they could treat him.... his cancer is a recurring deep-tissue skin cancer that is disfiguring and purulent. So J., my female cousin, retired this past summer, and finally has her life back. I expect that D., my male cousin, would have ended up as a street person or an inmate if he hadn't had a sister willing to give up her adult years and home for him to stay.
Stories like this are sad and awful. First because the person is sick and basically incurable. But the illness also affects many others in the family and no matter how much they love him, caring for a mentally ill person for decades is a burden. I can't imagine having to sleep behind a locked door with a gun and a dog because you're afraid of what your brother might do. I'm glad to hear she has her life back and hope she can catch up on everything she's missed, for many years to come.
cawacko
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Wow. Great they did all that but still sucks.
Like I said I don't have the answers. I know locally we spend hundreds of millions and not a lot seems to change. It's not that people don't care but it's like they don't care (if that makes sense). We've almost become desensitized to it and that's why articles like the one in the OP wake us up when outsiders who aren't used to it react.
Thank you very much. She's an awesome person herself, certainly far more selfless than I might have been in similar circumstances. Come spring we're driving down and spending a few days to help her finish rehabbing the house and fixing some of the damage that he caused. I haven't seen him since I was 13 years old; not sure how he would feel about a visit but we'll see.
No, I want the families to have more power.
It’s a horrible disease, horrible on families, my girlfriend’ daughter is a schizophrenic and a meth head. The only time she feels safe is when E. is in jail. It tragic, she won’t take her medication, and there is nothing J can do about it. My heart just goes out to her.