Memo and national security

domer76 said:
It sure as shit is when two of his contacts were arrested as foreign agents.

Another failure on your part.

Keep grasping.
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that's guilt by association.
Page was never accused during the Buryakov case of having been successfully recruited or of spying.

I think he even cooperated wit the FBI..It was the speech in Moscow that "caused" the FISA.
The dossier alleged that Page used the speech as cover to meet with senior Kremlin officials on Trump's behalf, a claim that Page has denied.
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...page-targeted-russian-spies/story?id=46557506
 
noise said:
that's guilt by association. Page was never accused during the Buryakov case of having been successfully recruited or of spying
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Wrong again, moron. Association sufficient for investigation though.

You hang out with people under investigation and provide documents to them, damn sure someone is going to be looking at you.

Don't be so gullibly naive.
 
archives said:
You'd have to ask Director Wray that question, but ultimately, as someone once said, "what difference does it make," the memo is a bust, and embarrassing bust, even I'm disappointed, no theater
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  1. Despite a) knowing the dossier was opposition research paid for by the Clinton campaign b) knowing the dossier was “salacious and unverified” c) knowing Steele was desperate to destroy Trump d) the breathtaking conflict of interest in having an investigator’s own wife working on the dossier, the FBI still went to the FISA court to obtain permission to spy on Hillary Clinton’s opponent.
  2. In order to obtain a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign, all of the conflicts of interest above were withheld from the FISA court — an indefensible (and possibly illegal) lie of omission.
  3. Even worse, in order to legitimize a warrant request based on a piece of partisan opposition research they knew was “salacious and unverified,” the FBI and DOJ used a media report to bolster the findings in the phony dossier. The FBI and DOJ told the court that the media report was independent verification of the dossier. But this was not true, and, according to the Nunes memo, the FBI and DOJ knew this was not true. The truth is that the phony dossier was the source of this media report.
 
J Craft said:
  1. Despite a) knowing the dossier was opposition research paid for by the Clinton campaign b) knowing the dossier was “salacious and unverified” c) knowing Steele was desperate to destroy Trump d) the breathtaking conflict of interest in having an investigator’s own wife working on the dossier, the FBI still went to the FISA court to obtain permission to spy on Hillary Clinton’s opponent.
  2. In order to obtain a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign, all of the conflicts of interest above were withheld from the FISA court — an indefensible (and possibly illegal) lie of omission.
  3. Even worse, in order to legitimize a warrant request based on a piece of partisan opposition research they knew was “salacious and unverified,” the FBI and DOJ used a media report to bolster the findings in the phony dossier. The FBI and DOJ told the court that the media report was independent verification of the dossier. But this was not true, and, according to the Nunes memo, the FBI and DOJ knew this was not true. The truth is that the phony dossier was the source of this media report.
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Salacious and unverified = pissgate.

Tell us how that was relevant to the warrant.
 
Rune said:
If you could understand you wouldn't have to ask, pinhead.
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I've always considered that to be the absolutely stupidest answer to a legitimate question on these boards.
The first time I heard that was when I asked a similar idiot, "how does advocating a healthy diet make me a racist?"
Funny coming from one who considers himself the board genius.
 
J Craft said:
  1. Despite a) knowing the dossier was opposition research paid for by the Clinton campaign b) knowing the dossier was “salacious and unverified” c) knowing Steele was desperate to destroy Trump d) the breathtaking conflict of interest in having an investigator’s own wife working on the dossier, the FBI still went to the FISA court to obtain permission to spy on Hillary Clinton’s opponent.
  2. In order to obtain a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign, all of the conflicts of interest above were withheld from the FISA court — an indefensible (and possibly illegal) lie of omission.
  3. Even worse, in order to legitimize a warrant request based on a piece of partisan opposition research they knew was “salacious and unverified,” the FBI and DOJ used a media report to bolster the findings in the phony dossier. The FBI and DOJ told the court that the media report was independent verification of the dossier. But this was not true, and, according to the Nunes memo, the FBI and DOJ knew this was not true. The truth is that the phony dossier was the source of this media report.
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So why aren't people being fired left and right right now? What's the hold up? Trump has been DYING to end this investigation from day one. What's he waiting for since here is all the evidence he and his supporters need?
 
aloysious said:
I've always considered that to be the absolutely stupidest answer to a legitimate question on these boards.
The first time I heard that was when I asked a similar idiot, "how does advocating a healthy diet make me a racist?"
Funny coming from one who considers himself the board genius.
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link us up


you have said racist things in the past
 
Gotcha68 said:
So why aren't people being fired left and right right now? What's the hold up? Trump has been DYING to end this investigation from day one. What's he waiting for since here is all the evidence he and his supporters need?
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The investigation has only begun. Because of the memo, I am hearing murmurs of convening a Grand Jury, disclosure of the FISA application, as well as a transcript of McCabes testimony.
 
domer76 said:
Salacious and unverified = pissgate.

Tell us how that was relevant to the warrant.
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ummm they also forget to mention Comey said that when they first got it


now they have verified much of it

the right just pretends its all fake

just like they pretend the The Russians didn't hack us even though the Dutch have it on fucking tape
 
J Craft said:
The investigation has only begun. Because of the memo, I am hearing murmurs of convening a Grand Jury, disclosure of the FISA application, as well as a transcript of McCabes testimony.
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You mean investigations of this magnitude take time? Interesting.
 
Gotcha68 said:
You mean investigations of this magnitude take time? Interesting.
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Fraud and corruption investigation into our own justice system will require very careful scrutiny. Disclosure of McCabes testimony, and the FISA application should be forthcoming immediately.
 
domer76 said:
Wrong again, moron. Association sufficient for investigation though.

You hang out with people under investigation and provide documents to them, damn sure someone is going to be looking at you.

Don't be so gullibly naive.
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what documents? If hanging out with "da Russians" were the requirement for a FISA warrant- then we might as well just forget the 4th.. If that's "gullible naive" you can keep your police state..

as mentioned
The dossier alleged that Page used the speech as cover to meet with senior Kremlin officials on Trump's behalf, a claim that Page has denied.
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^back to the dossier as lead supporting material for FISA, and it was not disclosed in the FISA
 
Carter Page is a naval academy graduate..we are to the point that any mingling with "da Russians" is now surveillable
 
Gotcha68 said:
So why aren't people being fired left and right right now? What's the hold up? Trump has been DYING to end this investigation from day one. What's he waiting for since here is all the evidence he and his supporters need?
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I know, right?......its already been 21 hours......
 
noise said:
what documents? If hanging out with "da Russians" were the requirement for a FISA warrant- then we might as well just forget the 4th.. If that's "gullible naive" you can keep your police state..

as mentioned ^back to the dossier as lead supporting material for FISA, and it was not disclosed in the FISA
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Do some homework on Carter, pally. Perhaps you can avoid further willful ignorance.
 
We know a FISA warrant was rejected. I suspect that is when they went to the Unverified Steele dossier


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noise said:
You sound like the Deep State. Paranoid and Russiaphobic
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Carter Page was a businessman who traveled regularly to Russia (like thousands of other business men with business in Russia do). Suspected Russian spies, who were being surveiled, approached Page pretending to be interested in his business. They thought he was greedy enough to be groomed. They, the Russians, were also recorded saying they thought he was an idiot.

The Russians were arrested, only one of them could be charged, as the other two had diplomatic immunity. Carter Page was questioned. It was determined he had no knowledge of who the Russians were, and he was cleared of suspicion. That is who Carter Page is. An American who Russians targeted for their own purposes in 2013. They were unsuccessful. Carter Page was determined to be innocent.
 
Why don't Republicans just ask the judge who granted the FISA why he did so? Under what grounds/evidence? Quick answer, over and done with.
 
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