Maui Is What Happens When You Elect Democrat Nature Worshippers

Then why do the local papers, and experts on Hawaiian wildfires say it was?

How Swaths of Invasive Grass Made Maui’s Fires So Devastating
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...ss-made-mauis-fires-so-devastating-180982729/

Invasive species can cause native ecosystems to go up in smoke
https://www.mauinews.com/news/commu...an-cause-native-ecosystems-to-go-up-in-smoke/

Invasive firestarter: How non-native grasses turned Hawaii into a tinderbox
https://phys.org/news/2023-08-invasive-firestarter-non-native-grasses-hawaii.html

Invasive grasses change landscape structure and fire behaviour in Hawaii
https://www.fs.usda.gov/psw/publications/ff/psw_2014_ellsworth001.pdf

The experts say you are full of shit. Once ignited, invasive grass species allowed the fire to burn hot and spread fast.

'Expert' worship. The News service are NOT experts. Remember these people that you are quoting hate. They are always looking for someone to blame.
No grass. High winds fanned the flames. It wasn't grass burning. It was sticks and brush and homes and businesses.

I lived in Lahaina for several years, dude. The most 'invasive' grass was sugar cane...until the fields were abandoned.

You harvest sugar cane by burning it.
 
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It means what i said. Speaking to the future.

You and i have had this chat about your abject stupidity over new and emerging technologies.

You are stuck ALWAYS trying to act like technologies do not improve and thus the cars of the 1930's are what we are stuck with. They are not better then so they will never improve in the future.

I explain to you over and over how stupid and naive your view is but you keep repeating it. We are seeing billions upon billions in VC funds going into all sorts of improvements in battery tech and we are just at the front of the curve in seeing the first major new advancements.

But you will keep repeating all the top VC's and scientists are wrong as YOU know they are just wish casting and nothing more will come from it. That is because you are dumb.

You have an opinion. I get it. But it is a dumb one. We have never had such a mass adoption wave (ICE vehicle, Computer chips, computer itself, etc,) where mass production and adoption did not lead to massive breakthru's in tech and efficiency so if you want to be the guy betting against it happening in battery tech, fine. Just do not state as if you are an authority, as you are not. You are a derp.

Battery technology isn't going to get much cheaper. In fact, it is likely to get more expensive as EV's are forced on most of the population for transportation. It is far, far cheaper to build natural gas generation plants along with nuclear, and simply design in features that allow them to work in extreme cold and hot environments. This eliminates the low and intermittent productivity of solar and wind and removes them from being nothing more than a duplication of effort.
 
Battery technology isn't going to get much cheaper.
Saying something like this as if fact and like you know the future is simply stupid. It would be like saying ICE cars are not going to get much better or cheaper in the 30's simply because you cannot see it.

In fact, it is likely to get more expensive as EV's are forced on most of the population for transportation.
And yet that is not happened as ICE vehicles moved into mass commercialization.

It is far, far cheaper to build natural gas generation plants along with nuclear, and simply design in features that allow them to work in extreme cold and hot environments. This eliminates the low and intermittent productivity of solar and wind and removes them from being nothing more than a duplication of effort.
OK.
 
It means what i said. Speaking to the future.

You and i have had this chat about your abject stupidity over new and emerging technologies.
The Li-ion battery was developed in the mid 80's, making it about 40 years old technology.
You are stuck ALWAYS trying to act like technologies do not improve and thus the cars of the 1930's are what we are stuck with.
A battery is not a car. False equivalence fallacy.
They are not better then so they will never improve in the future.
Li-ion batteries are governed by electrochemistry. It doesn't change for you. You just want to deny it.
I explain to you over and over how stupid and naive your view is but you keep repeating it.
Projection. Inversion fallacy.
We are seeing billions upon billions in VC funds going into all sorts of improvements in battery tech and we are just at the front of the curve in seeing the first major new advancements.
There is no magick 'battery tech'. Li-ion batteries are the same chemistry as always since they were invented. The same joules are available per mole of lithium.
But you will keep repeating all the top VC's and scientists are wrong
You don't get to speak for everyone. Omniscience fallacy.
as YOU know they are just wish casting and nothing more will come from it. That is because you are dumb.
He actually knows a hell of a lot more about battery technology than YOU do. Inversion fallacy.
You have an opinion. I get it. But it is a dumb one.
It's based on chemistry, dude. Not an opinion.
We have never had such a mass adoption wave (ICE vehicle, Computer chips, computer itself, etc,) where mass production and adoption did not lead to massive breakthru's in tech and efficiency so if you want to be the guy betting against it happening in battery tech, fine.
Nothing is happening in 'battery tech'. The same joules are available per mole of lithium as it was in the 80s'. You cannot just change the laws of chemistry on a whim twit.
Just do not state as if you are an authority, as you are not. You are a derp.
He is much more of an authority than you. It is YOU discarding chemistry.
 
Battery technology isn't going to get much cheaper. In fact, it is likely to get more expensive as EV's are forced on most of the population for transportation.
This is said badly, but essentially correct. It is not battery technology that gets more expensive, it's the materials for the battery...particularly the lithium. Since 2020, the price of lithium is now six times what it was (600% increase). The price of this material will skyrocket when EV mandates take effect. Poor QP! doesn't realize that batteries are not energy. They must be charged, taking away from the available energy to run useful stuff. They are ballast only, and expensive ballast at that.
It is far, far cheaper to build natural gas generation plants along with nuclear, and simply design in features that allow them to work in extreme cold and hot environments.
A far more practical solution. Both natural gas and nuclear energy can easily adjust to changing loads.
This eliminates the low and intermittent productivity of solar and wind and removes them from being nothing more than a duplication of effort.
It's worse than that. Both wind and solar cannot be easily adjusted to changing loads. They are also the most expensive methods of producing power.
 
This is said badly, but essentially correct. It is not battery technology that gets more expensive, it's the materials for the battery...particularly the lithium. Since 2020, the price of lithium is now six times what it was (600% increase). The price of this material will skyrocket when EV mandates take effect. Poor QP! doesn't realize that batteries are not energy. They must be charged, taking away from the available energy to run useful stuff. They are ballast only, and expensive ballast at that.

A far more practical solution. Both natural gas and nuclear energy can easily adjust to changing loads.

It's worse than that. Both wind and solar cannot be easily adjusted to changing loads. They are also the most expensive methods of producing power.

We have been betrayed by our owners.

Do you understand?

I doubt it.

U Suck.
 
Saying something like this as if fact and like you know the future is simply stupid.
So you fell asleep in economics class as well. Ask me how I know. You can't create lithium out of nothing, twit.
It would be like saying ICE cars are not going to get much better or cheaper in the 30's simply because you cannot see it.
Not at all. Gasket technology has improved immensely, and modern FADEC gasoline cars are far more efficient than any EV.
They are more reliable too.
And yet that is not happened as ICE vehicles moved into mass commercialization.
The Ford Model T originally cost $545. Today's gasoline cars cost considerably more than that!

Every pollution 'control' device on modern cars is there because Democrats said it has to be there. That stuff ain't free, dude.
 
So you fell asleep in economics class as well. Ask me how I know. You can't create lithium out of nothing, twit.

Not at all. Gasket technology has improved immensely, and modern FADEC gasoline cars are far more efficient than any EV.
They are more reliable too.

The Ford Model T originally cost $545. Today's gasoline cars cost considerably more than that!

As if facts and truth matters to the current regime.

U Sure R Stupid!
 
We have been betrayed by our owners.

Do you understand?

I doubt it.

U Suck.

I have ITN on ignore and rarely read any of his posts but i see him making the same fundamental mistake Terry consistently makes and cannot get past.

They assume the billions and billions of dollars going into the technology will yield no new breakthru's. That the ICE auto of the 1905 is what we are stuck with forever. And then they critique based on that flawed view.

Ya D'uh, if you start by assuming the ICE car will never evolve beyond this...

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Then any talk of national roads and highways or them realistically replacing the horse and buggy will not be viable to you.

But only idiots think that way. Again, people much smarter than Terry and ITN (VC's Scientists) are pouring billions of dollars and research into new battery tech that will not rely on the rare earth elements, and get better and better range with faster charging.

That Terry thinks he can speak definitively that it will not happen, EVER, is just stupid. while it is possible we won't get any game changer break thru's, it is near impossible that will not get many more significant ones, taking the tech to levels where ICE vehicles simply fail to be competitive by any measure. that would not take much from where the tech currently is with some significant break thru's. So we will wait and see as people like Terry pretend they can see the future and keep telling us 'it will not happen... they already know that'. That is because they are dumb.
 
I have ITN on ignore and rarely read any of his posts but i see him making the same fundamental mistake Terry consistently makes and cannot get past.

They assume the billions and billions of dollars going into the technology will yield no new breakthru's. That the ICE auto of the 1905 is what we are stuck with forever. And then they critique based on that flawed view.

Ya D'uh, if you start by assuming the ICE car will never evolve beyond this...

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Then any talk of national roads and highways or them realistically replacing the horse and buggy will not be viable to you.

But only idiots think that way. Again, people much smarter than Terry and ITN (VC's Scientists) are pouring billions of dollars and research into new battery tech that will not rely on the rare earth elements, and get better and better range with faster charging.

That Terry thinks he can speak definitively that it will not happen, EVER, is just stupid. while it is possible we won't get any game changer break thru's, it is near impossible that will not get many more significant ones, taking the tech to levels where ICE vehicles simply fail to be competitive by any measure. that would not take much from where the tech currently is with some significant break thru's. So we will wait and see as people like Terry pretend they can see the future and keep telling us 'it will not happen... they already know that'. That is because they are dumb.

You are wrong. There is a limit to most, if not all technologies. Batteries are limited by chemistry and physics. You cannot make a battery cell that will provide more than about 3 volts, at most and the average is more like 2 and a bit volts. The ONLY way around that for battery technology is we discover some new element that is relatively abundant that can provide more than a difference in potential atomically of 3 volts.

Cell size determines ampacity. Again, you CANNOT get around that. The bigger the cell, the longer it works.

That was true for battery cars in 1890 and it's true today. It was the single biggest failing they had then, and it is the single biggest failing they have now. The radical Leftist, anti-science greentards--like you--just can't get it in your thick skull that battery cars have been repeatedly tried and have failed every time. The ONLY thing getting them pushed out today is government putting it's thumb on the scale.

When a nation or state outlaws alternatives, EV's become the norm. That's where California and the Democrats / Left are headed. They will by autocratic diktat outlaw alternatives to EV's forcing everyone into one. When that becomes an economic and social disaster--and it will--they'll just walk away from it as if it never happened looking for some other equally idiotic shiny object to fuck everyone over with.

The game changer is the fuel cell. It leaves the fuel used as portable. It can be integrated into current infrastructure instead of requiring an entirely different one that is both expensive and highly impractical having to be implemented from scratch.

I can see the future, and it isn't EV's, it's fuel cells. The Left--YOU--are the myopic ones. You've fixated on a shitty solution that is neither practical in terms of science and engineering, nor in terms of economics ignoring any alternative.

A century ago, battery cars were around. They lost in the market to ICE vehicles, as did the horse and buggy because ICE vehicles were highly practical and made great economic sense. In today's dollars, a Ford model T ran about $8,000 to buy. The Edison electric car--the best design on the market was about $15,000. The Model T ran about 100 to 150 miles on a tank of gas and you could carry more or easily refuel it. The Edison electric ran about 100 miles and then... Well, you needed somewhere to charge it for about 8 to 12 hours.

Today's EV's have the same failings. They take longer--too long--to charge, or you can risk battery damage using rapid charging systems, and the charging stations are not portable.

So, it is YOU that is the myopic idiot, not me. Fuel cells are the future. EV's are a technological dead end.
 
You are wrong. There is a limit to most, if not all technologies. Batteries are limited by chemistry and physics. You cannot make a battery cell that will provide more than about 3 volts, at most and the average is more like 2 and a bit volts. The ONLY way around that for battery technology is we discover some new element that is relatively abundant that can provide more than a difference in potential atomically of 3 volts.
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Ok. so just explain this point above to me.

HOW DO YOU KNOW Definitively THE FUTURE THiS WILL NOT HAPPEN?

I have never met anyone who knows the future like you purport to here where you keep proclaiming things impossible.

I will post in my next post all the money going in to pursuing batteries that do not rely on rare earth and that will have completely different chemistry and physics but i want you to focus on the above only for now. Then we can discuss how you know for CERTAIN what i will post next, will fail and that all the VC money and scientists are wrong and you are the only who understands what is possible.
 
This is clearly a thing 'Big MOney' believes is viable.

Terry maintains a position 'it is not viable and that they know better and can say definitively no such advancements will be made. What we have today is all we are getting in the future.'







This is a very Marjorie Greene type position. It is steeped in ignorance. It is saying 'because i cannot see it', 'because i do not understand how the new tech can be developed'... 'i then will state it is impossible'.


it is the ignorance of people who do not understand and cannot accept that their limitations do not bind others.

I say it all the time, but Terry is the person who would have crapped on every single tech advancement being pursued in history, until they saw it done and working. The person saying it will never work. Not worth pursuing, ever. All based on their inability to understand humankind is not limited to what people like Terry can see and understand.
 
An no Terry i am not myopic.

What i admit:

- I do not know if battery tech will get he advancements they are chasing. They may not. BUt history has taught to not bet against it as new tech goes into mass production, huge breakthru's typically follow.

- I do not know if any other tech, including fuel cells might obsolete it. That is possible and i have never said otherwise.

- this is an emerging area, just on the front edge of its development curve and we know less now than we will learn.


If you contrast my views with yours where you are certain on which tech will win, how the future will EXACTLY play out, and you are willing to call people an idiot who disagree, you understand the difference between us.

I do not think you are an idiot for you what you believe and would bet on. that is fine. You might end up correct.

BUt for you to say all the VC money, all the Universities and researchers who are pursuing tech paths you do not think will pay off are all idiots as you, Terry, have figured this all out and can speak definitively to the future, just isolates you along with Marjorie Greene. True idiots with zero hubris who feel the need to speak of everything as settled fact based solely on you 'believing it to be true'. You need nothing more than that. You believe it thus everyone who disagrees just does not have a different opinion... nope... they must be wrong in your myopic view.


This is a real failing you have Terry. A real flaw and many have it. They speak, as you do from ignorance, and cannot see it.
 
An no Terry i am not myopic.

What i admit:

- I do not know if battery tech will get he advancements they are chasing. They may not. BUt history has taught to not bet against it as new tech goes into mass production, huge breakthru's typically follow.

Battery technology--all battery technology--relies on chemistry. The charge a cell delivers is the difference in potential between the cathode and anode materials.

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Next, the two materials / elements / molecules used have to have the correct chemistry to be able to be recharged. All batteries are not rechargeable, and rechargeable ones have lives. There's a limit to how many times you can recharge one.
Then there's the physics of charging and discharging them electrically along with the chemistry.

All of this is pretty much fixed and known. There isn't much that can be discovered about batteries except possibly better cell design or using higher purity chemicals in making one. Sure, you can change the electrolyte in some way, or the anode and cathode design, but it really doesn't change the battery significantly.

That's why fuel cells are the next big thing, not batteries. Fuel cells are in essence, a never-ending battery that continually charges itself with new fuel.

With EV's what you have is the Left, and it is the political Left, wanting zero-emissions. They won't wait for a fuel cell to become completely practical so they settled on batteries. They ignore the chemistry and physics, along with the economics, and simply charge forward like a bulldozer demanding full adoption as if their wishes would all be granted.
What's very likely, almost certainly, to happen is a fuel cell vehicle will become fully and economically viable in the near future. EV's, forced on people, will be an unwanted solution and people will move to fuel cells instead. The Left will resist this because it isn't what they want, until it's obvious they can't stop the change. Then they'll jump onboard and act as if they never had anything to do with EV's.

- I do not know if any other tech, including fuel cells might obsolete it. That is possible and i have never said otherwise.

- this is an emerging area, just on the front edge of its development curve and we know less now than we will learn
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Fuel cells are the obvious choice. Anhydrous ammonia has the advantage of ease of storage and it can be mass produced cheaply from methane with carbon (not CO2) as a byproduct. That makes it a good choice to run a zero emission fuel cell on. Hydrogen has issues with storage. The best hydrogen storage tanks look like a fine mesh screen door to hydrogen atoms. If a storage method can be found that prevents most of that leakage, it's the winner.


If you contrast my views with yours where you are certain on which tech will win, how the future will EXACTLY play out, and you are willing to call people an idiot who disagree, you understand the difference between us.

I do not think you are an idiot for you what you believe and would bet on. that is fine. You might end up correct.

BUt for you to say all the VC money, all the Universities and researchers who are pursuing tech paths you do not think will pay off are all idiots as you, Terry, have figured this all out and can speak definitively to the future, just isolates you along with Marjorie Greene. True idiots with zero hubris who feel the need to speak of everything as settled fact based solely on you 'believing it to be true'. You need nothing more than that. You believe it thus everyone who disagrees just does not have a different opinion... nope... they must be wrong in your myopic view.

This is a real failing you have Terry. A real flaw and many have it. They speak, as you do from ignorance, and cannot see it.

If you discuss this stuff with the Leftists in various organizations and such, which I have done, you come away with the distinct impression they don't know any of the particulars of this. They simply know because people that think like they do told them that X is the solution to a problem and they should get onboard with it. This isn't about MTG, she is an idiot, just like AOC is, only a polar opposite.
The problem is that the Left, right now, has majority control of the media and is the primary influencer of the general population. Most people don't bother to learn technical, engineering, science, and related stuff and rely heavily on what media puts out. If the media is putting out garbage... In the case of EV's the media is putting out a lot of garbage.
 
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