Maui Is What Happens When You Elect Democrat Nature Worshippers

[volsrock]

Evidence suggests the heartbreaking Maui wildfire was preventable. That should enrage the Democrat voters of Hawaii. I fear it will not.


This is the 21st century. We know how to do land management. We know how to prevent wildfires, or at least ensure they can be controlled and extinguished long before a Maui occurs. Sadly, we choose not to.

Actually…

It’s Democrats who choose not to.

You see, Democrats have become the equivalent of pagan sun worshippers. Nature has become their god. Therefore, in their pagan minds, human beings are nothing more than viruses, a threat to their god. This means that on their list of priorities, we humans come way behind the air, water, plants, animals, and even insects.


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...s-when-you-elect-democrat-nature-worshippers/

 

[Lionfish]

Err, it would help if the idiot who controlled the water supply had not waited five hours before turning on the spigots.

Hawaii official concerned with ‘equity’ delayed releasing water for more than 5 hours as wildfires raged

"Access to water should be predicated on “conversations about equity,” according to the Hawaii official under fire for delaying access to water during the Maui wildfires.

M. Kaleo Manuel, former deputy director of the Hawaii Commission on Water Resource Management, waited for more than five hours to release water during the wildfires that devastated Maui, according to reports.

In a livestream debate hosted by the University of Hawaii last year, Manuel described water as a sacred god."

 

[QP!]

Texas is what happens when you elect Republi'CANS'.


But lucky the LEFT and GREEN ENERGY is coming to the rescue!

As Heat Waves Roast Texas, Batteries Keep Power Grid Humming

 

[volsrock]

Texas is what happens when you elect Republi'CANS'.


But lucky the LEFT and GREEN ENERGY is coming to the rescue!

Yep we know California does not have power grid problems..fucking idiot




Almost one-quarter of 2022 power outages occurred in California. The state of California also came in first for the most power outages overall in the last 20 years: 2,684.Jan 13, 2023


California accounted for 24% of all U.S. power outages, and Texas accounted for 14%.

 

[QP!]

Yep we know California does not have power grid problems..fucking idiot




Almost one-quarter of 2022 power outages occurred in California. The state of California also came in first for the most power outages overall in the last 20 years: 2,684.Jan 13, 2023


California accounted for 24% of all U.S. power outages, and Texas accounted for 14%.

I enjoy how painfully stupid you are.

You guys try to paint the Maui issues as Dem issues, which is just stupid. This idea that if only it was a Republican run State it would not have problems.


To show you how stupid it is to try and make this partisan i post Texas issues in a GOP State.


You then in your VAST stupidity think you do a gotcha by saying California, a Dem state also has problems.

So do i now post another GOP state and you counter with another Dem one, so that you can FINALLY get it?

Do you think that would cut thru your stupidity and that trying to make these partisan is just stupid? OR are you too stupid to make that connection?

 

[Yakuda]

Err, it would help if the idiot who controlled the water supply had not waited five hours before turning on the spigots.

Hawaii official concerned with ‘equity’ delayed releasing water for more than 5 hours as wildfires raged

"Access to water should be predicated on “conversations about equity,” according to the Hawaii official under fire for delaying access to water during the Maui wildfires.

M. Kaleo Manuel, former deputy director of the Hawaii Commission on Water Resource Management, waited for more than five hours to release water during the wildfires that devastated Maui, according to reports.

In a livestream debate hosted by the University of Hawaii last year, Manuel described water as a sacred god."

I heard about this, they were worried about water equity or some stupid ass shit like that.

 

[Lionfish]

I heard about this, they were worried about water equity or some stupid ass shit like that.

That is exactly what happened. The guy has been moved out of his position and on to another one. The mayor of Maui also faced an angry group of residents. This thing is unraveling very quickly. Long past time to throw these wokies out of any position of authority.

 

[Hawkeye10]

We now see all through the West governments betraying the people, refusing to protect the people,.....this is the new normal.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Texas is what happens when you elect Republi'CANS'.


But lucky the LEFT and GREEN ENERGY is coming to the rescue!

"Fundamentally, it is a historic storm that drove electric demand higher than we've ever seen — by far," Magness says.
At the exact same time, for the exact same reason, the supply of electricity went down.
Wind turbines did, in fact, freeze. But so did natural gas wells. And pipelines. And critical pipes at coal and nuclear power plants. And equipment panels.
Perilous road conditions made it hard for workers to access sites. Natural gas was being used for heating needs as well as power generation, making scant supplies even scarcer.
Add it all up, and the state suddenly had a lot of power plants, of all kinds, that simply couldn't function — and not enough electricity to go around.

It was a systemwide failure.

"All types of generation have had issues," says Joshua Rhodes, a research associate at the University of Texas at Austin's Webber Energy Group. "I mean, having more natural gas power plants wouldn't have helped us because we can't get gas to the ones we have right now."

So, buried in your NPR source they admit that it was a general problem and that wind and solar did fail along with other suppliers and transmission systems because the cold snap was not something designers had planned for. So, your bullshit about "renewables" in itself an oxymoron, saving the day is exactly that, a bullshit lie.

 

[domer76]

I enjoy how painfully stupid you are.

You guys try to paint the Maui issues as Dem issues, which is just stupid. This idea that if only it was a Republican run State it would not have problems.


To show you how stupid it is to try and make this partisan i post Texas issues in a GOP State.


You then in your VAST stupidity think you do a gotcha by saying California, a Dem state also has problems.

So do i now post another GOP state and you counter with another Dem one, so that you can FINALLY get it?

Do you think that would cut thru your stupidity and that trying to make these partisan is just stupid? OR are you too stupid to make that connection?

We can also talk about the Flint, MI drinking water disaster, mixing both racism and conservatism all in one.

 

[ExpressLane]

Evidence suggests the heartbreaking Maui wildfire was preventable. That should enrage the Democrat voters of Hawaii. I fear it will not.


This is the 21st century. We know how to do land management. We know how to prevent wildfires, or at least ensure they can be controlled and extinguished long before a Maui occurs. Sadly, we choose not to.

Actually…

It’s Democrats who choose not to.

You see, Democrats have become the equivalent of pagan sun worshippers. Nature has become their god. Therefore, in their pagan minds, human beings are nothing more than viruses, a threat to their god. This means that on their list of priorities, we humans come way behind the air, water, plants, animals, and even insects.


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...s-when-you-elect-democrat-nature-worshippers/

The power company invested in green energy rather than removal of invasive grass. The dense under growth fueled the fire.

 

[Yakuda]

We can also talk about the Flint, MI drinking water disaster, mixing both racism and conservatism all in one.

I don't blame you for trying to get as far away from this Hawaii thing as quickly as possible

 

[ExpressLane]

Texas is what happens when you elect Republi'CANS'.


But lucky the LEFT and GREEN ENERGY is coming to the rescue!

The truth is the Renewables under performed in the winter storm. Solar generation was low and wind was light and many wind turbines had their blades ice up. Our fossil fuel generation also under-performed some plants had icing pipes and gas producers had icing gas pipes which shut down delivery gas producers depended on commercial electricity and did not have generator back up to keep natural gas flowing.. Residential gas use has precedence over power plants so the limited gas production went to Residential customers.. The storm was colder longer and more widespread than ANY storm in Texas history. It exposed some weaknesses in the system. Those weaknesses are being addressed. Sometimes finding failure points require stressing the system.

 

[ExpressLane]

I don't blame you for trying to get as far away from this Hawaii thing as quickly as possible

Indeed it is another blue state failure like the Flint thing was.

 

[ExpressLane]

"Fundamentally, it is a historic storm that drove electric demand higher than we've ever seen — by far," Magness says.
At the exact same time, for the exact same reason, the supply of electricity went down.
Wind turbines did, in fact, freeze. But so did natural gas wells. And pipelines. And critical pipes at coal and nuclear power plants. And equipment panels.
Perilous road conditions made it hard for workers to access sites. Natural gas was being used for heating needs as well as power generation, making scant supplies even scarcer.
Add it all up, and the state suddenly had a lot of power plants, of all kinds, that simply couldn't function — and not enough electricity to go around.

It was a systemwide failure.

"All types of generation have had issues," says Joshua Rhodes, a research associate at the University of Texas at Austin's Webber Energy Group. "I mean, having more natural gas power plants wouldn't have helped us because we can't get gas to the ones we have right now."

So, buried in your NPR source they admit that it was a general problem and that wind and solar did fail along with other suppliers and transmission systems because the cold snap was not something designers had planned for. So, your bullshit about "renewables" in itself an oxymoron, saving the day is exactly that, a bullshit lie.

Texas is in the middle of a heat wave. If our renewables fail to generate enough we don't have enough Fossil and Nuke generation to fill the demand.

 

[Into the Night]

Evidence suggests the heartbreaking Maui wildfire was preventable. That should enrage the Democrat voters of Hawaii. I fear it will not.


This is the 21st century. We know how to do land management. We know how to prevent wildfires, or at least ensure they can be controlled and extinguished long before a Maui occurs. Sadly, we choose not to.

Actually…

It’s Democrats who choose not to.

You see, Democrats have become the equivalent of pagan sun worshippers. Nature has become their god. Therefore, in their pagan minds, human beings are nothing more than viruses, a threat to their god. This means that on their list of priorities, we humans come way behind the air, water, plants, animals, and even insects.


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...s-when-you-elect-democrat-nature-worshippers/

This is just using the victims of the Lahaina fire as pawns. The fire was not preventable.
It was caused by high winds downing power lines and dry conditions with 60mph gusts coming from a passing hurricane. No amount of water would've stopped it. They also had plenty of water, being on the coast.

Fires occurred on all the islands on their dry side, but Lahaina took the most unfortunate hit.

This isn't about Democrats.

 

[Into the Night]

Err, it would help if the idiot who controlled the water supply had not waited five hours before turning on the spigots.

Hawaii official concerned with ‘equity’ delayed releasing water for more than 5 hours as wildfires raged

"Access to water should be predicated on “conversations about equity,” according to the Hawaii official under fire for delaying access to water during the Maui wildfires.

M. Kaleo Manuel, former deputy director of the Hawaii Commission on Water Resource Management, waited for more than five hours to release water during the wildfires that devastated Maui, according to reports.

In a livestream debate hosted by the University of Hawaii last year, Manuel described water as a sacred god."

Lahaina is on the coast. They have water. People jumped into that water to get away from the firestorm raging through town with 60mph gusts.

 

[Into the Night]

Texas is what happens when you elect Republi'CANS'.


But lucky the LEFT and GREEN ENERGY is coming to the rescue!

Austin, TX is mostly Democrats, dumbass. 'Green' energy like windmills and solar panels contribute very little to the power generating capacity of Texas, despite the blight and expense they produce across the landscape.

 

[Into the Night]

"Fundamentally, it is a historic storm that drove electric demand higher than we've ever seen — by far," Magness says.
At the exact same time, for the exact same reason, the supply of electricity went down.
Wind turbines did, in fact, freeze. But so did natural gas wells. And pipelines. And critical pipes at coal and nuclear power plants. And equipment panels.
Perilous road conditions made it hard for workers to access sites. Natural gas was being used for heating needs as well as power generation, making scant supplies even scarcer.
Add it all up, and the state suddenly had a lot of power plants, of all kinds, that simply couldn't function — and not enough electricity to go around.

It was a systemwide failure.

"All types of generation have had issues," says Joshua Rhodes, a research associate at the University of Texas at Austin's Webber Energy Group. "I mean, having more natural gas power plants wouldn't have helped us because we can't get gas to the ones we have right now."

So, buried in your NPR source they admit that it was a general problem and that wind and solar did fail along with other suppliers and transmission systems because the cold snap was not something designers had planned for. So, your bullshit about "renewables" in itself an oxymoron, saving the day is exactly that, a bullshit lie.

The electrical grid of Texas didn't fail.
Wind generators are useless in icing conditions.

Solar power is not used much in Texas. It is the most expensive method of generating electricity there is, watt for watt. It's piddle power.
Wind is the 2nd most expensive, and also piddle power.

 

[Into the Night]

The power company invested in green energy rather than removal of invasive grass. The dense under growth fueled the fire.

There was no 'dense undergrowth'. Ever since the cane sugar production was destroyed by the federal government in favor of corn for ethanol subsidies, the cane fields were abandoned to the weeds.
The dry side of the island is now just try twigs and sticks (some of which is now burned). No 'dense undergrowth'.