Mason and Nifty's Religion thread: moved from the Nice Thread

Dutch Uncle

Dutch Uncle

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NiftyNiblick said:
Your driveway slopes downward toward the street.
You put a ball down on it.
The ball rolls down to the street.
Did the ball decide on its own to do that?
Or did something else cause that to happen?

Everything else on the planet works like the ball.
Science needs to explain why the higher developed animal kingdom doesn't.
For now, at least, it hasn't and can't.

Personally, I just don't know--not that I think about it that much.
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Dutch Uncle said:
Is the ball alive? Can it think?

Does your "avatar" ever make choices, no matter how small. Would killing it be the same as letting the air out of the ball?
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Margot said:
Does the ball have a Brain ? To decide?
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No, it does not. It's not even alive.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Regardless of which theory holds water, you know that I'm not about to kill my Avatar.

My whole point.
Can we think, or do we merely perceive that we can?

The process of thinking, to this point, isn't explained by physical science.
It requires some faith. Much is based on hypothesis.
I'm definitely not denying thinking's existence, of course.
I just can't be absolutely sure.

Also, there's something to be said for being a meat robot without accountability.
It makes it easier to sleep at night!
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Isn't that a choice? Or are you simply reacting to biochemical programming and your DNA?

Yes, we can think, but not everyone has the same ability compared to other human beings. Is there any doubt that you can outsmart your dog?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Isn't that a choice? Or are you simply reacting to biochemical programming and your DNA?

Yes, we can think, but not everyone has the same ability compared to other human beings. Is there any doubt that you can outsmart your dog?
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We all have the same ability to think, but some cloud their own mind,with prejudice, rationalization, ETC.
The Spirit takes us away from just being an equation of chemicals.
 
Margot said:
We all have the same ability to think, but some cloud their own mind,with prejudice, rationalization, ETC.
The Spirit takes us away from just being an equation of chemicals.
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That's a choice, isn't? Even if a person is raised a racist, don't they still have a choice to not be a racist? Education helps, but the person has to want to learn. If they are stupid or mentally ill, it will be tougher for them to change.
 
Margot said:
That's where you're wrong ,Satan is in the situation he is in by his own free will! Like everyone else! Everyone needs to take responsibility for their own actions! Ya don't get to blame YHWH,Satan,whoever!
We each are responsible for our own actions.
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Angels have free will? Interesting. If so, then why does God need man?

Still, free will or not, if God was all-knowing and all-powerful, the God would have known what both Lucifer and Adam and Eve would do.
 
What forum is this in now?
Religion, Philosophy, and Ethics?

Good move, actually.
That's one way to get me to shut up about it.

Don't wander around these parts much.
 
Jesus came as Passover Lamb
Everyone will have their chance to Eat the Flesh and drink the Blood of the Passover Lamb!
Then at the Harvest the Passover Angel will be dispatched
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