Martin McGuinness has just died

Taft2016 said:
Sad that they can't extricate themselves from a foreign land while in the homeland they feed their own limey lasses to Muslim rape gangs to keep the peace at home.

The UK needs to turn in their man cards.
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In case you hadn't noticed, the British Army left Northern Ireland some time back. Nobody is stopping the two Irelands from reuniting apart from Irish politicians. Principally those in the South that, whilst paying lip service to re-unification, don't want it as they fear the North.

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Milagro said:
In case you hadn't noticed, the British Army left Northern Ireland some time back. Nobody is stopping the two Irelands from reuniting apart from Irish politicians. Principally those in the South that, whilst paying lip service to re-unification, don't want it as they fear the North.

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You've really run dry of excuses if all you have left is "the Irish don't want a united Ireland."

Bollocks deluxe.
 
Taft2016 said:
You've really run dry of excuses if all you have left is "the Irish don't want a united Ireland."

Bollocks deluxe.
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I am sorry but it's true. Obviously it is political suicide to say that openly south of the border but there is no way that they want the aggro. This really highlights what I have been saying for years, you Americans just don't have a clue what is actually going on in Ireland. Maybe this New Statesman article will help to remove the scales from your eyes?

"You do hear some Irish nationalists chirping excitedly about Scottish independence. But these are from the fanatical wing of Northern Irish politics rather than the sober heads within the Irish government, who are carefully steering their state back from the brink of bankruptcy. Predictably, Gerry Adams told the Sinn Fein party conference in early February that the United Kingdom was “hanging by a thread”. Adams has been saying similar things since 1970. While Sinn Fein has become the master of sectarian one-upmanship in Northern Ireland, public support for Irish unity is lower than ever. A poll last year showed that only 4 per cent of the population wanted unity as soon as possible and only 22 per cent wanted it in 20 years. Even among Catholic voters, the figures were 13 per cent and 27 per cent.

Even more important is that the Irish state has never been less interested in Irish reunification. The last thing that anyone in Dublin wants is any destabilisation of the status quo in Northern Ireland. It is safe to say that the prospect of footing the bill for the region with the most bloated public expenditure of anywhere in the UK is not an enticing one – let alone taking on the burden for security. Even in the much more ideologically charged atmosphere of the 1970s, Harold Wilson’s flirtation with withdrawing from Northern Ireland was enough to send the Irish state into a tailspin of panic. These days it is hard to find even the greenest of Irish statesmen paying unification so much as lip-service."

http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2014/03/letter-belfast-support-irish-unity-all-time-low


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Taft2016 said:
Polls aside, which I don't believe, you have nothing more to cite than an unspoken contradictory agenda?
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Of course you don't believe it, I'd be surprised otherwise. You Americans, Irish New Yorkers especially, have been fed so much bullshit over the years that it has become part of the mythology. As I've told you before I am the son of Irish Catholic parents, I know the truth but you have to be over here to hear it.

It is pretty obvious to anyone logical and informed, why would politicians on either side of the border upset the apple cart for no good reason? They want unification as a long term aim, but preferably when they retire and somebody else can handle the consequences.

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