Man gets probation in dog-lawn murder

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A University Park man who killed a neighbor whose dog urinated on his lawn was sentenced today to four years probation.

"This is not justice," said Gail Williams, the slain man's aunt.

Charles Clements, 69, a great-grandfather, former Marine and retired truck driver who took great pride in his lawn's appearance,
could have been sentenced to as much as 20 years.

In declining to send Clements to jail, Will County Judge Daniel Rozak noted the episode was Clements' first contact with the legal system in his 69 years.

He also said the slaying wasn't about a dog urinating on a lawn, but "about your reaction ... to being yelled at, pushed and punched in the face by a 23-year-old man"
The Will County state's attorney's office, which had asked for jail time, indicated it would not appeal the sentence. "He (Rozak) is an excellent judge and we respect his decision," prosecutors said in a statement.

Clements had apologized for his actions at a sentencing hearing that was interrupted last week when the slain man's mother began to hyperventilate in court.

A Will County jury convicted Clements of second-degree murder in October.

Joshua Funches, 23, was walking his fox terrier puppy when Clements confronted him after the dog urinated on his manicured lawn.

After Funches cursed at him, Clements pulled out a .45-caliber handgun and put it back in his pocket. Soon after, Funches punched Clements once in the face. Clements said Funches was standing still when he pulled out his gun and fatally shot him.

Funches had three small children, including a boy born after his death. Patricia Funches, his mother, had asked Rozak to sentence Clements to the maximum 20 years in prison. Clements had been free on bond pending his sentencing.


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Good thing Clements was not white, Jesse & Al would have had one hell of a protest march.
 
A University Park man who killed a neighbor whose dog urinated on his lawn was sentenced today to four years probation.

"This is not justice," said Gail Williams, the slain man's aunt.

Charles Clements, 69, a great-grandfather, former Marine and retired truck driver who took great pride in his lawn's appearance,
could have been sentenced to as much as 20 years.

In declining to send Clements to jail, Will County Judge Daniel Rozak noted the episode was Clements' first contact with the legal system in his 69 years.

He also said the slaying wasn't about a dog urinating on a lawn, but "about your reaction ... to being yelled at, pushed and punched in the face by a 23-year-old man"
The Will County state's attorney's office, which had asked for jail time, indicated it would not appeal the sentence. "He (Rozak) is an excellent judge and we respect his decision," prosecutors said in a statement.

Clements had apologized for his actions at a sentencing hearing that was interrupted last week when the slain man's mother began to hyperventilate in court.

A Will County jury convicted Clements of second-degree murder in October.

Joshua Funches, 23, was walking his fox terrier puppy when Clements confronted him after the dog urinated on his manicured lawn.

After Funches cursed at him, Clements pulled out a .45-caliber handgun and put it back in his pocket. Soon after, Funches punched Clements once in the face. Clements said Funches was standing still when he pulled out his gun and fatally shot him.

Funches had three small children, including a boy born after his death. Patricia Funches, his mother, had asked Rozak to sentence Clements to the maximum 20 years in prison. Clements had been free on bond pending his sentencing.


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Good thing Clements was not white, Jesse & Al would have had one hell of a protest march.

Don't fuck with old people, cause they don't play that game.
 
A University Park man who killed a neighbor whose dog urinated on his lawn was sentenced today to four years probation.

"This is not justice," said Gail Williams, the slain man's aunt.

Charles Clements, 69, a great-grandfather, former Marine and retired truck driver who took great pride in his lawn's appearance,
could have been sentenced to as much as 20 years.

In declining to send Clements to jail, Will County Judge Daniel Rozak noted the episode was Clements' first contact with the legal system in his 69 years.

He also said the slaying wasn't about a dog urinating on a lawn, but "about your reaction ... to being yelled at, pushed and punched in the face by a 23-year-old man"
The Will County state's attorney's office, which had asked for jail time, indicated it would not appeal the sentence. "He (Rozak) is an excellent judge and we respect his decision," prosecutors said in a statement.

Clements had apologized for his actions at a sentencing hearing that was interrupted last week when the slain man's mother began to hyperventilate in court.

A Will County jury convicted Clements of second-degree murder in October.

Joshua Funches, 23, was walking his fox terrier puppy when Clements confronted him after the dog urinated on his manicured lawn.

After Funches cursed at him, Clements pulled out a .45-caliber handgun and put it back in his pocket. Soon after, Funches punched Clements once in the face. Clements said Funches was standing still when he pulled out his gun and fatally shot him.

Funches had three small children, including a boy born after his death. Patricia Funches, his mother, had asked Rozak to sentence Clements to the maximum 20 years in prison. Clements had been free on bond pending his sentencing.


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Good thing Clements was not white, Jesse & Al would have had one hell of a protest march.

Haha...got a "groan" for that comment did ya?

Schadshitenfude has a problem with the truth.....he "groans" at the truth on a regular basis....he must think we actually give a rats ass .....

Al's still busy trying to get Rush Limbaugh off the air first.....:palm:
 
Why would you shoot a man for for cursing you?

I bet this guy provoked the whole incident over some puppy piss.
 
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Prosecutors argued that Clements killed Funches during a dispute that started when the younger man's fox terrier urinated on Clements' yard.

Testimony at the trial showed that after Funches cursed at him, Clements pulled out a .45-caliber handgun and then placed it back in his pocket.

According to the filing, Funches then yelled, "Old man if you pull a gun on me you better plan on using it," then punched Clements in the face.

Clements said he blindly fired his gun as he fell backward. He apologized for his actions during the sentencing hearing.

Jurors convicted Clements of second-degree murder in October. They decided that Clements believed he was acting in self-defense -- a view they did not agree with.



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Maybe he got punched because the guy thought he was defending his life from a man with a gun?
 
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Prosecutors argued that Clements killed Funches during a dispute that started when the younger man's fox terrier urinated on Clements' yard.

Testimony at the trial showed that after Funches cursed at him, Clements pulled out a .45-caliber handgun and then placed it back in his pocket.

According to the filing, Funches then yelled, "Old man if you pull a gun on me you better plan on using it," then punched Clements in the face.

Clements said he blindly fired his gun as he fell backward. He apologized for his actions during the sentencing hearing.

Jurors convicted Clements of second-degree murder in October. They decided that Clements believed he was acting in self-defense -- a view they did not agree with.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...n_for_killing_neighbor_who.html#ixzz19ynjjI3P



Maybe he got punched because the guy thought he was defending his life from a man with a gun?

That is truly WEAK desh.

The younger guy was on the older guys lawn. The younger guy (according to witnesses) started cursing at the older guy (again... WHILE ON THE OLDER GUYS PROPERTY)... THEN the older guy pulled a gun and THEN put it back. As in 'hey, you stupid youngin, you are on MY property, your dog pissed on my lawn, probably not a good idea to be cursing at me'.

then after the old guy put the gun away, the young guy shouts 'you pull a gun you better use it' and hits the older guy.

The older guy then pulls the gun and uses it as the younger guy told him to.

The younger guy was a fucking idiot. Darwin claimed yet another moron.
 
news article said:
Testimony at the trial showed that after Funches cursed at him, Clements pulled out a .45-caliber handgun and then placed it back in his pocket.
this was the clue for funches to WALK AWAY and call police. threat was over, til he punched the old man.

I call self defense.
 
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Prosecutors argued that Clements killed Funches during a dispute that started when the younger man's fox terrier urinated on Clements' yard.

Testimony at the trial showed that after Funches cursed at him, Clements pulled out a .45-caliber handgun and then placed it back in his pocket.

According to the filing, Funches then yelled, "Old man if you pull a gun on me you better plan on using it," then punched Clements in the face.

Clements said he blindly fired his gun as he fell backward. He apologized for his actions during the sentencing hearing.

Jurors convicted Clements of second-degree murder in October. They decided that Clements believed he was acting in self-defense -- a view they did not agree with.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...n_for_killing_neighbor_who.html#ixzz19ynjjI3P



Maybe he got punched because the guy thought he was defending his life from a man with a gun?
Right, because a gun pointed at the bottom of my pocket is a danger to you. Maybe the guy pulled a gun because the guy threatened him while he was "cursing".

Seriously, what is your malfunction? The old man was punched. He fought back with overwhelming force, but who hits anybody whom they:
1. Know is armed.
2. Is eleventy-billion years old?

I was taught to respect my elders, even whey they are crotchety.

Give it a rest. Just because he owned a gun doesn't make him a bad man. Crotchety and anal about his lawn maybe, but "evil" or "bad"? No.
 
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Prosecutors argued that Clements killed Funches during a dispute that started when the younger man's fox terrier urinated on Clements' yard.

Testimony at the trial showed that after Funches cursed at him, Clements pulled out a .45-caliber handgun and then placed it back in his pocket.

According to the filing, Funches then yelled, "Old man if you pull a gun on me you better plan on using it," then punched Clements in the face.

Clements said he blindly fired his gun as he fell backward. He apologized for his actions during the sentencing hearing.

Jurors convicted Clements of second-degree murder in October. They decided that Clements believed he was acting in self-defense -- a view they did not agree with.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...n_for_killing_neighbor_who.html#ixzz19ynjjI3P



Maybe he got punched because the guy thought he was defending his life from a man with a gun?

And maybe Funches should have been more careful, in his request.
 
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