Into the Night
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Lie. Denial. Argument from randU fallacy.
Void argument fallacy.
Your problem. You can't blame your problem on anybody else, Sybil.
You can't blame Democrat election fraud on Trump, Sybil.
Mail in ballots are essential!
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Into the Night
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He isn't. He desperately wants exactly that!
Into the Night
Contributor
The federal government can regulate the voting in federal elections, Pretender. You are discarding the Constitution again.
It is YOU that has no concept of the law, Pretender.
Into the Night
Contributor
RQAA. Go back and read it. Stop asking the same question over and over mindlessly. It's already been answered by multiple people.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
The problem isn't in law regulating the postal service, it's in the FACT that multiple people handle each ballot, unseen and unsupervised during its processing. From mailing out to receipt at the counting office, that ballot is who-knows-where. There is little proof it was filled out by the intended recipient. Anyone handling it could tamper with or even dispose of it with virtually no way to catch them in the act.
THERE IS ZERO CHAIN OF CUSTODY OF BALLOTS IN AN ALL MAIL-IN ELECTION SYSTEM.
Now, you can claim there's little or next to no fraud in that system, but you have no way to prove that. You have no way to know if there are operatives out there offering cash for your ballot or anything else. There are now videos of political operatives offering the homeless in LA $5 to register to vote. Let's say come election time--and they have weeks to do this--those same operatives offer $5 to $10 to the same homeless to get a blank, signed ballot from each one, no questions asked. Those operatives then fill out those ballots and mail them in. The supposed voter signed it. How would you know it was fraudulently cast, which it now is?
Or ballot harvesting is legal. A political operative goes through a neighborhood trying to collect ballots for turn in. They flag each ballot they think is going to vote against what they personally want voted for that they receive. They might even deliberately go to neighborhoods that typically vote against their positions. They then take those ballots and shred them rather than turning them in. How would anyone know? Ballot harvesting is legal. The voter handed it over legally. The harvester, out of sight and out of mind, destroyed the ballot or held it to the day after the election before mailing it. You have no way, ZERO, to detect that election fraud.
Mail-in elections are absolutely rife with potential for fraud.
That's not even what that data says.It's both.
More than half the US electorate lacks confidence in our elections to one degree or another and that percentage is rising, not falling.
Americans are increasingly worried about voting, new poll shows
Americans’ confidence that their elections will be run fairly has dropped to its lowest point in years, according to a new PBS News/NPR/Marist poll.
www.pbs.org
That, of course, is the real problem. American elections are secure. They are not any less secure than they ever were. Yet suddenly, more Americans than before are skeptical about elections without literally any proof in the entire universe. That is the definition of delusion, and Trump is the cause of it (along with the relative stupidity of the general public).
This is but one example of how you have completed eroded any credibility you used to have. You used to be a thinking person before you became a devoted MAGAt. You probably don't remember, but I do.You might want to check yourself in...
What I find particularly sad is that Terry used to be one of the few conservatives on JPP who could think critically and support rational arguments. Now he resorts to na na boo boo TDS trash. His brain is as compromised as the worm-eaten one rattling around in RFK's skull. Damocles is another prime example of a once reasonable person decimated by MAGA thought.
Jesus fucking christ, little girl, you get dumber every day.Mail in ballots are subject to be regulated by the mail service, which is Federal.
Checkmate on that, Jarod me boy. You want mail-in ballots? They will be regulated by USPS.
You've been outmaneuvered.
Mail-in is a misnomer. You take your ballot to the drop box in front of City Hall, or an election site. I have never mailed my "mail-in ballot' They tell you where to drop it off.Mail in ballots are subject to be regulated by the mail service, which is Federal.
Checkmate on that, Jarod me boy. You want mail-in ballots? They will be regulated by USPS.
You've been outmaneuvered.
The mail is only involved when they send you a letter asking if you want a mail-in ballot for this election. You fill it out and send it in, or drop that off too.
It's always the ones who know nothing about how things work, who are experts on this board.
A "mail-in ballot " has the precinct it is supposed to go to. When you process the votes in the container, you check to see if they are at the right precinct. Then, if it is signed and dated. If not, and it is before election day, you call or write the voter and ask them to come in and sign the ballot, or you send them a new one.
Note, there is only one vote per person in the precinct log book. A pile of ballots would not be processed.
You are the definition of delusional.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
So, one in three people have little faith in our election system. I'd say that's a major problem. You dismiss a third of the population's concerns on the basis of an appeal to popularity fallacy.That's not even what that data says.
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Americans are increasingly worried about voting, new poll shows
Americans’ confidence that their elections will be run fairly has dropped to its lowest point in years, according to a new PBS News/NPR/Marist poll.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Show me where I am wrong in what I stated. No, don't cite that election fraud is rare or some other nonsense, prove what I stated is not reasonably possible.
The faith was lost when Trump repeated constant lies about it. It's people like you who cannot resist. Trump's core vote is 33 percent. That matches your stats. It is you dorks who are easily fooled. We need Trump to go away.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
You can claim any cause you want, but that doesn't change that it's a growing problem. I can also tell you the harder the Democrats fight to loosen voter ID laws and make elections 'easier' to vote in, the greater that problem will become, Trump or no Trump.
It's Democrat led efforts like the For the Voter's Act or the John Lewis Voter's Act that Democrats have pushed as nationwide changes that undermine confidence in elections.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Nothing says that you realize that you lost like desperately attempting to redefine what constitutes winning.
I dismiss election deniers -- in whatever number they present themselves -- as uninformed fools. To believe in something without any evidence whatsoever is either a matter of faith or a matter of insanity. I am troubled by the mental illnesses and general lack of education within the MAGA movement, but I also oppose their irrational, fear-based panic about imaginary election security concerns.
First of all, one does not prove a negative. I don't need to prove that there is no election fraud. Nonetheless, study after study after study after lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit for years and years and years have all proven, consistently and unanimously, that election fraud does not exist in any significant sense.
As far as you completely fabricating the most bizarre scenes in imagination, I'm neither kidding nor attempting to insult you when I say you should be medically evaluated. Your musings on this site have become completely untethered to reality in the past year. I only have your posts to judge you, but you seem to be a very unwell person. If you're going to swat at imaginary bats and look for secret Soviet communiques in the static on a TV screen, then you need to be medicated.