MAGA senator Ted Cruz calls Trump's jumbo jet foreign gift an espionage risk

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concern is fine

but it will still save money running this through an inspection vs buying a new plane and running that through inspection

this is a net benefit to US taxpapers - and since we are assholes that export depreciating dollars, it is a net benefit to everyone around the world by stopping some of our excess spending

False.

Because it is being gifted to Trump and his library after it does nothing to save the taxpayers one penny as the government will still need the other plane that is slated to be delivered in a few years.

So there is absolutely no savings and this represents a completely additional cost when instead Trump should do like he asked the young girls and mothers to do when it comes to dolls and strollers and simply do with less. Keep flying the current AF1 which is still well within its working life span until the jet already ordered and targeted to be delivered in a few years, can be.

 

[gmark77]

Unions are 'working men'. They are organized crime in most cases.

The EPA is not 'safety'. Neither is OSHA. They are government agencies.
Safety is best handled by the worker himself. He has the best interest in maintaining a safe working environment.
That is ESPECIALLY true around aircraft. You can easily get yourself maimed or killed working around these things.

You are not qualified.

LOL. OSHA is not safety? LOLOLOL. Tell the class you've never worked in industry in one sentence.

 

[Into the Night]

im talking about the plastic bullshit, as i initially said.

You're talking about it in this post, and in your previous post. Don't try to deny your own posts, NoName. You obviously have no appreciation for what plastics are and what they are capable of.

 

[Into the Night]

False.

Because it is being gifted to Trump

Because he is President of the United States, Kewpie. The President often receives gifts for the U.S.

and his library after it does nothing to save the taxpayers one penny as the government will still need the other plane that is slated to be delivered in a few years.

No other plane is needed, Kewpie.

So there is absolutely no savings

There certainly is...about half a billion dollars.

and this represents a completely additional cost

Refitting a plane is cheap, and will have to be done for any 747.

when instead Trump should do like he asked the young girls and mothers to do when it comes to dolls and strollers and simply do with less.

Random words ignored.

Keep flying the current AF1 which is still well within its working life span until the jet already ordered and targeted to be delivered in a few years, can be.

No such order, Kewpie.

 

[Into the Night]

LOL. OSHA is not safety?

That's what I said, Gunky. OSHA is not safety. It's merely a government agency.

LOLOLOL. Tell the class you've never worked in industry in one sentence.

I own my own company building sensors for industrial, medical, aerospace, and entertainment uses.
That's an industry, Gunky.

 

[Bai Lan]

You're talking about it in this post, and in your previous post. Don't try to deny your own posts, NoName. You obviously have no appreciation for what plastics are and what they are capable of.

actually plastic is bullshit

we should phase it out.

 

[Bai Lan]

You're talking about it in this post, and in your previous post. Don't try to deny your own posts, NoName. You obviously have no appreciation for what plastics are and what they are capable of.

yeah.


fuck plastic.

 

[gmark77]

I own my own company building sensors for industrial, medical, aerospace, and entertainment uses.
That's an industry, Gunky.

No you don't.

You shit post on JPP all day everyday. That seems to be your job.

 

[Into the Night]

actually plastic is bullshit

we should phase it out.

So you don't like your computer? Shut it off then! Never sign into JPP again.
So you don't like aircraft? Or RADAR? Or your car?
Or fireworks? (Yup. Even fireworks uses plastics, both in the various formulas, and in the equipment used to shoot it!).

 

[Into the Night]

yeah.


fuck plastic.

Your blow up doll?

 

[Into the Night]

No you don't.

Yes I do, Gunky. You can't make it disappear. My company exists.

You shit post on JPP all day everyday. That seems to be your job.

Inversion fallacy.

 

[ZenMode]

Sen. Dick Durbin (Ill.), the senior Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, noted the plane’s extensive electrical system would be very difficult to check thoroughly for potential security vulnerabilities.

“It is completely negligent and, as far as I’m concerned, reckless to think that Air Force One where the president is asked to function as our commander in chief in a situation room, making life-or-death decisions, is on a plane given to us by a foreign government with 200 miles of wiring in it,” he said.

 

[gmark77]

Yes I do, Gunky. You can't make it disappear. My company exists.

No it doesn't.

Why don't you try spending time "running" your business rather than shitposting on JPP all the time?

 

[archives]

Consumers are taxpayers, anchovies.

Pivot fallacy, There is. Fortunately, DOGE found a lot of it and it is getting cut

Ah, it ain’t the taxpayer who is consuming, benefiting, or personally profiting from weekend golf junkets, that is Trump’s gig, and only Trump’s gig, pure graft

Bullshit, Trump/Musk’s supposed savings has diminished from the promised seven trillion to 156 billion to the latest 76 billion, and in the process managed to fuck up all segments of the Government. You know there is a reason Trump’s tax cuts are estimated to add four trillion dollars to the national debt, Trump’s on course to break his own record setting debt of his first term

 

[Into the Night]

Sen. Dick Durbin (Ill.), the senior Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, noted the plane’s extensive electrical system would be very difficult to check thoroughly for potential security vulnerabilities.

Since when does any Democrat idiot think he knows anything about aircraft?
It's thoroughly checked EVERY YEAR, dumbass.

“It is completely negligent and, as far as I’m concerned, reckless to think that Air Force One where the president is asked to function as our commander in chief in a situation room, making life-or-death decisions, is on a plane given to us by a foreign government with 200 miles of wiring in it,” he said.

More like 140. Every bit of it is thoroughly checked every year too, Void.

 

[Into the Night]

No it doesn't.

Why don't you try spending time "running" your business rather than shitposting on JPP all the time?

I do. Frankly, I don't care whether you believe me or not. I don't sell any product to you, though you benefit from them. You're an ingrate.

 

[Into the Night]

Ah, it ain’t the taxpayer who is consuming, benefiting, or personally profiting from weekend golf junkets,

I consume products (and produce them). I benefit from my business. I also go out golfing. I'm a taxpayer.

that is Trump’s gig, and only Trump’s gig, pure graft

Nope. I do it too. None of it is graft. Redefinition fallacy. Go learn English, anchovies.

Bullshit, Trump/Musk’s supposed savings has diminished from the promised seven trillion to 156 billion to the latest 76 billion, and in the process managed to fuck up all segments of the Government. You know there is a reason Trump’s tax cuts are estimated to add four trillion dollars to the national debt, Trump’s on course to break his own record setting debt of his first term

Argument from randU fallacies. Stop making up numbers and using them as 'data', anchovies.
The President doesn't add to the debt.

 

[Cypress]

Sen. Dick Durbin (Ill.), the senior Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, noted the plane’s extensive electrical system would be very difficult to check thoroughly for potential security vulnerabilities.

“It is completely negligent and, as far as I’m concerned, reckless to think that Air Force One where the president is asked to function as our commander in chief in a situation room, making life-or-death decisions, is on a plane given to us by a foreign government with 200 miles of wiring in it,” he said.

Four days ago, @zymurgy claimed I was a blithering idiot for daring to suggest there were national security risks in making a foreign jumbo jet the new AF1.

 

[zymurgy]

Four days ago, @zymurgy claimed I was a blithering idiot for daring to suggest there were national security risks in making a foreign jumbo jet the new AF1.

bwahahahaha. you are a lying piece of shit

I literally said being concerned is valid. But I also said we take the gift

that you have to lie about my position shows how much I am in your head and how much you hate losing debates with me.

bwahahahahahahaha

 

[archives]

I consume products (and produce them). I benefit from my business. I also go out golfing. I'm a taxpayer.

Nope. I do it too. None of it is graft. Redefinition fallacy. Go learn English, anchovies.

Argument from randU fallacies. Stop making up numbers and using them as 'data', anchovies.
The President doesn't add to the debt.

But you are not President, duh

“Making up numbers;

Tax Cut Extensions Would Add $37 Trillion to Debt by 2054 | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

2025-03-24-In a recent letter, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated that extending and reviving various provisions from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act

www.crfb.org

Extending Trump Tax Cuts Would Add $4.6 Trillion to the Deficit, CBO Finds | U.S. Senate Committee On The Budget

The Official U.S. Senate Committee On The Budget

www.budget.senate.gov

The Budget and Economic Outlook: 2025 to 2035

By the NumbersThe Budget Outlook, by Fiscal YearNotesSee Appendix B.

www.cbo.gov

Budget | Congressional Budget Office

CBO's regular budget publications include semiannual reports on the budget and economic outlook, annual reports on the President's budget and the long-term budget picture, and a biannual set of options for reducing budget deficits. CBO also prepares cost estimates and mandate statements for...

www.cbo.gov

https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/the-new-cost-for-2025-tax-cut-extensions-4-trillion/

You got anything to invalidate those numbers?