The net effect is that they went down and stayed down.
Clinton increasing them by 4.6% after they were cut by half isn't quite the "up" you want people to think.
And it only happened that one time.
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The net effect is that they went down and stayed down.
Clinton increasing them by 4.6% after they were cut by half isn't quite the "up" you want people to think.
And it only happened that one time.
and I repeat. Good thing you are so retarded that me dragging your bullshit all over the forum and spanking your ass doesn't make you curl up in the fetal position.
Yes, you have to repeat because dealing with what I wrote is just too damaging to your fragile ego, so you have to declare yourself the winner because you already understand that you're a loser.
NO! What I said was that tax cuts do not translate to savings...you are trying to straw man here. I never said that. What I said was that if you cut government spending in one place, you have to make up for that spending elsewhere otherwise you contract the economy.
and spending has went up. If we cut one place, we increase by more elsewhere - hence overall spending has went up.
you are an economic moron. you continue to say the most retarded things.
spending went up from about 2k per citizen in 1965 to 20k per citizen in 2021. I already documented this to be the case - yet you still lie and say we have reduced spending
To summarize. Americans have never felt worse about the economy than they do right now
Feelings vs. Facts
You have feelings...a lot of them...I have facts...a lot of them.
You are also a coward and a fraud who doesn't really believe anything that you post here...it's all an act, completely unserious.
Feelings vs. Facts
You have feelings...a lot of them...I have facts...a lot of them.
You are also a coward and a fraud who doesn't really believe anything that you post here...it's all an act, completely unserious.
facts - like how spending has went up and you lie and say it has went down.
all you do is gas light and lie. and act like a barely functioning retard
Our resident liar says the problem is we don't spend enough. !
When did I ever say that? Never.
So the thing you accused me of doing yesterday is what you are doing here today.
It's all an act to cover for your insecurities, which are myriad when discussing things you know nothing about, like economics.
When did I ever say that? Never.
So the thing you accused me of doing yesterday is what you are doing here today.
It's all an act to cover for your insecurities, which are myriad when discussing things you know nothing about, like economics.
it was quoted dipshit.
even though we went from spending 2k per citizen to 20k per citizen, you say we are reducing our spending and contracting the economy
you can only lie - or curl up in the fetal position and cry for your mommy
and spending has went up.
Relative to what?
Relative to what?
relative to spending in prior years.
both accounted for inflation, and population - we are spending more per citizen than ever.
If we cut one place, we increase by more elsewhere - hence overall spending has went up.
But where has that spending gone up? Not in health care, not in education, not in the environment...the military, right?
you are an economic moron. you continue to say the most retarded things.
This is just another outburst that covers for your deficiencies when it comes to economics, of which there are many.
You don't actually HAVE any beliefs of your own here; you're just repeating what other, dumber people have said before you...so you're not bringing anything new to the equation or debate, you're just a hack.
The dissonance is you thinking tax cuts lets you keep more of what you earn while the economic data says that tax cuts DO NOT let you keep more of what you earned in the end.
So it's your feelings vs. empirical data
Which one of those are measurable?
But where has that spending gone up? Not in health care, not in education, not in the environment...the military, right?
the liar is moving the goal post
First, he said this
lying sack of shit said:What I said was that if you cut government spending in one place, you have to make up for that spending elsewhere otherwise you contract the economy.
what happened jackass? why move the goal post now? because you lost?
btw education spending has skyrocketed over the years
https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/education_spending
it was quoted dipshit.
No it wasn't you fucking liar.
I never said what you said I did on this thread -or anywhere.
So yesterday, you practically had a temper tantrum because I accused you of saying something you actually believed...but I guess you don't hold yourself to that same standard.
Probably because you're such a loser.
even though we went from spending 2k per citizen to 20k per citizen, you say we are reducing our spending and contracting the economy
Nope.
Not what I said.
What I said was that if you cut government spending, you need to make up that spending elsewhere otherwise you contract the economy.
That's all I've said...and it's exactly what YOU HAVE BEEN AVOIDING by creating these laughable straw men.
So immature.
relative to spending in prior years
Which spending?
Because government spends on a lot of things.
both accounted for inflation, and population - we are spending more per citizen than ever.
Well we also have more citizens than ever.
So I'm not sure what you think you're accomplishing here, or what point you're even making.
Nope.
Not what I said.
What I said was that if you cut government spending, you need to make up that spending elsewhere otherwise you contract the economy.
That's all I've said...and it's exactly what YOU HAVE BEEN AVOIDING by creating these laughable straw men.
So immature.
and again, we have increased spending elsewhere. you tried to lie - I called you out on your bullshit, and now you are pivoting to different set of lies
Well we also have more citizens than ever.
So I'm not sure what you think you're accomplishing here, or what point you're even making.
I accounted for the increase, and inflation. 2k per citizen < 20k per citizen
the liar is moving the goal post
Nope. Wrong again.
By asking you to be detailed and specific, I'm not moving the goalposts...YOU'RE moving the goalposts out of the stadium because you don't want me to even attempt a field goal.
So when you said that we spend "$20K" per person, does that include miulitary spending or just the social spending you don't like, but can't explain why you don't like it other than "Ug government bad. Ug."
hat happened jackass? why move the goal post now?
Please explain how the below "moved a goalpost". All I've said is that if you cut government spending in one place, you have to make up for that spending elsewhere otherwise you contract the economy.
See:
What I said was that if you cut government spending in one place, you have to make up for that spending elsewhere otherwise you contract the economy.
btw education spending has skyrocketed over the years
According to the chart you linked to but didn't bother to look at, the "skyrocketing" spending on education happened in the 1960's and 1970's, and then it shows education spending was CUT and it took to about 2002 for education spending to reach the levels it was at during its peak in the 1970's, and then got cut again around 2010-11 according to your chart.
You're a sloppy fucking hack.
You didn't bother to do any due diligence on what you were posting because you're so consumed with trying to one up some random person on an anonymous message board.
What a fucking loser.
Nope. Wrong again.
By asking you to be detailed and specific, I'm not moving the goalposts...YOU'RE moving the goalposts out of the stadium because you don't want me to even attempt a field goal.
So when you said that we spend "$20K" per person, does that include miulitary spending or just the social spending you don't like, but can't explain why you don't like it other than "Ug government bad. Ug."
You said cutting spending in one area and not compensating elsewhere contracts the economy. Did you not mean that when you said it?
Please explain how the below "moved a goalpost". All I've said is that if you cut government spending in one place, you have to make up for that spending elsewhere otherwise you contract the economy.
yet now you want to know how the money is spent. so you are moving the goal post
and again, we have increased spending elsewhere.
But not on things that generate wealth...it's been on things like the military or tax cuts.
you tried to lie
All I have said is that if you cut government spending in one place, you have to make it up elsewhere otherwise you contract the economy.
Everything you are trying to gotcha me on has nothing to do with what I said.
YOU, however, have insisted that tax cuts "let you keep more of what you earned" except that the empirical data says the opposite.
So the dissonance is your personal feelings vs. empirical economic data.
That's why the best you can do on this thread is bitch, whine, moo, oink, create straw men and red herrings, and why you can't show your work to prove your theory about tax cuts.