"Lock her Up"

anatta said:
bull shit.
China is true - Libya I just debunked - and her Emails were surely true.
You need to multi-source.
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You debunked nothing. Christie is full of shit. The fact that you attempt to create facts to support his claims is laughable.
 
Althea said:
You debunked nothing. Christie is full of shit. The fact that you attempt to create facts to support his claims is laughable.
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unlike your self I use multiple sourcing where needed.
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Libya: debunked (above -and in her own FOIA release from State) + plus Foreign Policy on the "humanitarian disaster"
detailed refutation above. The war was a bogus chance for her to do regime change -being the neocon she is.
( See Iraq vote and Friends of Syria)

China: true

Russian reset: pathetically true!

Syria -true abut her "reformer" statements on Assad ( how could she even say such crap?)-not true on blaming the entire 400,000 deaths solely on Assad. Also her continuing insistence on a "No Fly" in Syria. is proof she never learns from her fuck ups.

Cuba true on the claims -but normalization was still needed.

Emails -absolutely true about her dissembling turning into out right lies.
also her "extreme carelessness does fit 18 U.S.C. § 793 (f)(1) of the espionage act.

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hyper-partisan clinging to the Democratic party no matter what has warped your ability to use logic.
The Democrats got a neocon by the tail and can't let go, now that the DNC has rigged the game for her against Bernie.

anything I missed from Christie's speech? oh ya. Boko -i'll have to look at that further..
 
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Clintons lame Tweet -attacking Christie but not defending herself
 
Chris Christie statement that Hillary Clinton fought against terrorist label for Boko Haram is partially true: RNC Fact Check

In a series of charges against Hillary Clinton on Tuesday night, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie accused her of fighting for two years to keep Boko Haram, an Al Qaeda affiliate, off the terrorist watch list.

Christie said, "In Nigeria, Hillary Clinton amazingly fought for two years to keep an Al-Qaeda affiliate off the terrorist watch list. These terrorists abducted hundreds of innocent young girls two years ago. These schoolgirls are still missing today."
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Officials in Clinton's state department vigorously debated whether or not to make the designation, ultimately delaying it until 2013. The subsequent abduction of 200 girls by Boko Haram cast scrutiny on the State Department's decision-making process and whether it could have acted more swiftly.

Although Christie is correct that the State Department under Clinton delayed the designation, he is greatly oversimplifying the matter and reaching for an uncertain conclusion that a quicker designation would have prevented the kidnapping
http://www.cleveland.com/rnc-2016/index.ssf/2016/07/christie_statement_that_clinto.html
 
Darla said:
I believe he has a computer full of bookmarks and he has files he keeps accrued from right wing sites and other faulty sources. It'd be a full time job to dispute the pile of absolute horseshit he posts here round the clock, while wearing the self-proclaimed mantle of "expert". That's why I put him on ignore. I have a job.

It's really very sad though. It's unhinged.
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It is a full time job but every little bit of help is good.
anatta is twisted, shilling for what he once protested. He has completely lost his way and become a useull idiot who seems totally unaware of the damage he wroughts.
 
Althea said:
2nd paragraph from this link


In the throes of the Arab Spring, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi was facing a furious revolt by Libyans determined to end his quixotic 42-year rule. The dictator’s forces were approaching Benghazi, the crucible of the rebellion, and threatening a blood bath. France and Britain were urging the United States to join them in a military campaign to halt Colonel Qaddafi’s troops, and now the Arab League, too, was calling for action.



Still wanna go with that 'chief architect' bullshit? BAC would be proud of you
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A lot of the pitchfork left believes that about Hillary, or at least claims to. The bernie guys. Not the young ones.
 
Rune said:
It is a full time job but every little bit of help is good.
anatta is twisted, shilling for what he once protested. He has completely lost his way and become a useull idiot who seems totally unaware of the damage he wroughts.
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sure dude. The Democrats used to (rightfully) go after Shrub and Cheney for being neocons/regime change.
Then they nominated one :palm: - and I'm the one who's lost his way?

The whole damn Democratic party has sold themselves out for a craven power crone . A full bore liar & epic failure as Sec of State..

Partisan politics is a mindfvcker - clinging to it - is the worst sort of mental 'attachment'.
 
anatta said:
sure dude. The Democrats used to (rightfully) go after Shrub and Cheney for being neocons/regime change.
Then they nominated one :palm: - and I'm the one who's lost his way?

The whole damn Democratic party has sold themselves out for a craven power crone . A full bore liar & epic failure as Sec of State..

Partisan politics is a mindfvcker - clinging to it - is the worst sort of mental 'attachment'.
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Yes, trying to sell the Long War is proof you are lost.
 
i personally am not ready to surrender to long war yet. That means that I live my entire life with this terrorist shit. I would like to try trumps way first before giving up.
 
tsuke said:
i personally am not ready to surrender to long war yet. That means that I live my entire life with this terrorist shit. I would like to try trumps way first before giving up.
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there is no need to "surrender", there is a need to recognize we are at war.
Clinton wants "intelligence surge" -whatever that means -are we not sharing as much as possible now?
The Pulse shooter was under investigation, but had to be cleared (suspended investigation) by the FBI-because he went under the radar.

We have to do what we do with Syrian jihadists ( US and European) -permanently keep them under a watch
If not the actual terror watch list -some type of accountability .

Also our intelligence agencies need to be able to use "radical Islamist" analysis, and not be shunned by political policy.
We have to act like we are at war, and not some kind of "law enforcement action"
 
anatta said:
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Clintons lame Tweet -attacking Christie but not defending herself
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You don't punch 'down' on politics. Christie was responsible for the Bridge debacle. That's not even up for debate.


I'll say it one more time, because sometimes your zeal prevents you from absorbing what I'm saying.


You can have your opinion on Libya. You cannot make Christie's case that Clinton was the 'chief engineer' of the campaign. Your own NYT article debunks that in the second paragraph.


As for the Boco Haram bullshit...that's just a gross fabrication.
 
anatta said:
Chris Christie statement that Hillary Clinton fought against terrorist label for Boko Haram is partially true: RNC Fact Check

In a series of charges against Hillary Clinton on Tuesday night, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie accused her of fighting for two years to keep Boko Haram, an Al Qaeda affiliate, off the terrorist watch list.


Officials in Clinton's state department vigorously debated whether or not to make the designation, ultimately delaying it until 2013. The subsequent abduction of 200 girls by Boko Haram cast scrutiny on the State Department's decision-making process and whether it could have acted more swiftly.

Although Christie is correct that the State Department under Clinton delayed the designation, he is greatly oversimplifying the matter and reaching for an uncertain conclusion that a quicker designation would have prevented the kidnapping
http://www.cleveland.com/rnc-2016/index.ssf/2016/07/christie_statement_that_clinto.html
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The facts behind that issue are as such:


CIA was secretly meeting with Boco Haram to get them to stand down. If the State Dept designated them a terrorist org, all talks would have to cease.

When it became evident that there was no success at the talks, the State Dept labeled them a terrorist org.

Clinton was not SS when the girls were kidnapped.



Christie is full of shit, but what do you expect at a shit convention?
 
anatta said:
there is no need to "surrender", there is a need to recognize we are at war.
Clinton wants "intelligence surge" -whatever that means -are we not sharing as much as possible now?
The Pulse shooter was under investigation, but had to be cleared (suspended investigation) by the FBI-because he went under the radar.

We have to do what we do with Syrian jihadists ( US and European) -permanently keep them under a watch
If not the actual terror watch list -some type of accountability .

Also our intelligence agencies need to be able to use "radical Islamist" analysis, and not be shunned by political policy.
We have to act like we are at war, and not some kind of "law enforcement action"
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We are in a war that we cannot win. Maher used to use the term 'whack a mole'. We will never be able to stop these 'lone wolf' attacks.


If we learned anything, it's that spreading Democracy in the Mid East isn't a viable concept. It's just a shame that we didn't learn from Iraq. Further, it's a shame that we like to publicly take a stand against torture, and the use of chemical weapons, while we torture people at black sites.

If we hadn't made such a big deal about taking Asaad's chemical weapons away, ISIS would not exist today.

If you're dealing with animals, let the world's despots exterminate them like animals.

Why don't we let those in the region deal with their own problems the way they have for centuries?

Because we have a dream that the entire Mid East will just give us their oil.
 
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