LMAO @ California Republicans

The few remaining Republicans in the state of California are most likely going to vote themselves into extinstinction later this week by approving a state budget with some nice new tax increases.

If they won't fight for fiscal disipline what purpose do they serve? None I would argue. We might as well be a one party political state. That seems to be what the people want its what we should get. The Republicans are going to make it a reality.

I'm sorry, cutting 40 billion dollars from the budget would be the most irresponsible action I could possibly think of.

And I'd like to congratulate you Republicans for giving us Schwarzenegger. He is much more liberal than Davis was! It was really a gift.
 
The governor is a RINO and the taxes in California are already outrageous. They need to cut spending, not raise taxes.

They ARE cutting spending you retard. What they need is for the feds to provide the ailing state and local government with a line of funding so that they don't need to cut basic necessities and send our economy into a freefall.
 
CA is an inevitable result of increasing spending and cutting or not increasing taxes.
So is the entire USA pretty much.

The Bush doctrine.
 
They ARE cutting spending you retard. What they need is for the feds to provide the ailing state and local government with a line of funding so that they don't need to cut basic necessities and send our economy into a freefall.

So just bump the problem up one level?
 
They ARE cutting spending you retard. What they need is for the feds to provide the ailing state and local government with a line of funding so that they don't need to cut basic necessities and send our economy into a freefall.

fuck california and federal funding. the cali legislature is wholly responsible for their financial mess and they should be solely responsible for fixing it, without any of my tax dollars.
 
Not all republicans are conservative. Why is it that people insist that they are? You know that Zell Miller isn't a liberal even though he is a democrat, how can you not see the possibility that somebody may be a republican and not "conservative"?

Damo, you must admit that the parties are becoming more ideological in nature. As the geographical divide in America is being broken down by technology, the primary difference in the parties is becoming ideologically, whereas they used to be regional (a northeastern Republican would have a lot more in common with a northeastern Democrat than their western or southern members). Parties used to be generic labels for regional fiefdoms. IMHO, the ideological change is a good thing. Parties SHOULD represent ideologies, and they should punish those who don't represent the ideology. If the voters in the district disagree, they should elect someone of a different party or an independent.

Although there are regional liberal Republicans and regional conservative Democrats, they're becoming extremely rare. There were a bunch of moderate Republican senators when Chafee started, almost half the caucus, now there are about three, and within a decade there will may be none. They're remnants of a dying, almost dead system. Polls show that only 1% of Republicans are liberal and 5% of Democrats conservative. And I'm pretty sure Miller was the last conservative Democrat; there are quite a few moderate Democrats in the senate, but the Democratic party is in general a bigger tent than the Republican party (although ideologically narrowing as well).
 
fuck california and federal funding. the cali legislature is wholly responsible for their financial mess and they should be solely responsible for fixing it, without any of my tax dollars.

You're an idiot.

The federal government should do what's best for America, and provide a line of credit to local and state government so that they don't kill the American economy. Fuck you and your idiotic beliefs. You lost. That's all the matters, your voice is irrelevant, we're going to do what's right.
 
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So just bump the problem up one level?

STUPID

The main problem, you fucking idiot, is that nearly every state legislature has an amendment that says they can't deficit spend. Which is an awful thing for our economy, being that huge amounts of state spending will be spent during boom times and state spending will be cut hugely during deficits. Economic nonsense. The only reasonable solution is for the federal government to provide a line of credit.
 
You're an idiot.

The federal government should do what's best for America, and provide a line of credit to local and state government so that they don't kill the American economy. Fuck you and your idiotic beliefs. You lost. That's all the matters, your voice is irrelevant, we're going to do what's right.

whatever...

But in a our system a party doesn't necessarily need a majority to govern effectively

don't you think it is intellectually dishonest to argue the repubs have no voice, yet argue that when bush won and the repubs were the majority that dems do have a voice...
 
STUPID

The main problem, you fucking idiot, is that nearly every state legislature has an amendment that says they can't deficit spend. Which is an awful thing for our economy, being that huge amounts of state spending will be spent during boom times and state spending will be cut hugely during deficits. Economic nonsense. The only reasonable solution is for the federal government to provide a line of credit.

no, the federal government is not a bank. if the state goes into deficit, thats it, no more spending, cut programs, do whatever to get back into the black.
 
to many bottom rungs to support there now. Jobs are shifting out of the state. Going to suck for a few years till people yearn for the sun once again.
 
You're an idiot.

The federal government should do what's best for America, and provide a line of credit to local and state government so that they don't kill the American economy. Fuck you and your idiotic beliefs. You lost. That's all the matters, your voice is irrelevant, we're going to do what's right.

Drunken sailor spending is shitty for neocons but it's peachy keen for dems.
Nice job allowance BOY:eek:
 
Uh, dude, the state is imploding. The state is freaking broke. Liberals run this state.

Yeah, that could be, but his label is still Republican and he didn't make good on his promises!

They need to start taxing marijuana, it is their biggest cash crop! It has overtaken corn in the USA! We are such a stoopid nation when it comes to some things...
 
Cali does tax the leagal dispenseries, they get millions. Okland send the us gov over a million a yr on pot taxes.
You could get 14 billion annually from a national mj tax, and keep it further from kids.
 
I think CA should simply tax the hell out of residents of San Fran, Silicon Valley, Orange county, Hollywood elitists etc... they are more than willing to redistribute their wealth. The 'celebrity' mansions can be taken over by the state to provide housing for the poor and homeless. Minimum, one person per bedroom in each home.

Definitely tax the hell out of any USC alum....
 
Oh I get it. You hope Cali goes even more broke than it is so you can finally move to San Fran and smoke weed there. Sounds like the life plan of some teen who doesn't give a shit or some old guy who wants to pretend to be hip and young.
Hmmm, how old are you again top?


I am in my second childhood and Tops plan sounds good to me! I think I am one of the oldest members of JPP! and proud of it! I am also proud of the fact that I smoke marijuana. It isn't just for teens, anymore!
 
Cali does tax the leagal dispenseries, they get millions. Okland send the us gov over a million a yr on pot taxes.
You could get 14 billion annually from a national mj tax, and keep it further from kids.

not to mention take down half the central American drug cartel.
 
I am in my second childhood and Tops plan sounds good to me! I think I am one of the oldest members of JPP! and proud of it! I am also proud of the fact that I smoke marijuana. It isn't just for teens, anymore!

Word, me too closing in on 49 and have started to partake again and it's been 20yrs of almost not doing it.
It most def helps with sleeping, pain, relaxation to just name a few.
 
no, the federal government is not a bank. if the state goes into deficit, thats it, no more spending, cut programs, do whatever to get back into the black.

Why?

That's not good economic sense and it's not mandatory either. We're should do what's right, and not force states to cut education and infrastructure spending. That would be an economic disaster.
 
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