Liz Cheney lost BIG.

Dutch Uncle said:
Coal? You're being kind to the biggest shitmeister in the USA. LOL

Good link!

I'm looking forward to seeing TrumpCo go down like the Titanic.

"A number of companies that were associated with President Trump have filed for bankruptcy," the filing states. "There can be no assurances that TMTG [Trump Media & Technology Group] will not also become bankrupt."

The document details Trump's history of repeatedly bankrupting casinos.
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That info in the prospectus or SEC filing or whatever it was sure doesn't inspire much in the way of investor confidence, does it? But better to be open and blunt about your chances of seeing a return on your investment in anything Trump, and risk losing investors, than to end up being sued later for not disclosing the problems.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Alcoholism is a mental disorder just like any other severely detrimental behavior. People drinking themselves to death isn't normal. There's a causal factor behind their liquid suicide.
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Yes, there is. I suspect many, if not most, alcoholics are people with some untreated emotional and/or mental issues. They use ETOH to self-medicate.
 
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ThatOwlWoman said:
That info in the prospectus or SEC filing or whatever it was sure doesn't inspire much in the way of investor confidence, does it? But better to be open and blunt about your chances of seeing a return on your investment in anything Trump, and risk losing investors, than to end up being sued later for not disclosing the problems.
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No. What's more surprising is how Trump is milking his fans and getting away with it.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Yes, there is. I suspect many, if not most, alcoholics are people with some untreated emotional and/or mental issues. They use ETOH to self-medicate.
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Agreed. I suspect depression to be the main factor. Alcoholism is common as is depression. Depression is the main factor behind American suicides.

Looking at some of JPP's bitterest members, is it really a stretch to think they'll end their lives with a bottle of booze and a pistol?
 
Earl said:
No one is going to vote for her in 2024.

Even the stupid Democrats are not stupid enough to run a presidential candidate who lost to her Congressional opponent by 40 points.
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Thanks for the prediction, I am sure sue will lose, but winning will not be her goal.
 
Jarod said:
Her big loss will show you where conservatism stands in the Republican party when up against the cult of Trump. The priority is Trump not the practice of conservatism. Nobody can question Cheneys commitment to conservative principals.
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I understand and its true, Ive been saying for a while Republicans are no longer Conservatives, haven't been for a long time. Conservatism lost support and they turned toward populism and authoritarianism. I believe a conservative party is healthy for America, at least when it comes to economics... but we lost that.

Cheney represents that now homeless Conservative minority who are not going to vote liberal or authoritarian. If she can draw 20% if the vote from the authorities they will never win again.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
He'd appreciate the praise, but as TOW pointed out, not for long. He doesn't even get along with his enablers. Why? Because he's irrational. His thinker is broken. Instead of getting help, he drinks, which only exacerbates the problem.

Nothing anyone on JPP can do to help him. Although I'll occasionally post remarks to him, I largely avoid him and those like him for that reason: there's nothing I can do to help and I do not support kicking the mentally ill....too much.
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I just tell him everything he doesn't want to hear, like, "you're a douche", "go away", "no one likes you!". you know.. reaching out to him in a "friendly" way.

I love it when I can get, "Mr. Zen" to lose his temper, further proving he's just full of shit. "Zen".. get real.
 
LurchAddams said:
I just tell him everything he doesn't want to hear, like, "you're a douche", "go away", "no one likes you!". you know.. reaching out to him in a "friendly" way.

I love it when I can get, "Mr. Zen" to lose his temper, further proving he's just full of shit. "Zen".. get real.
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I never expect irrational people to behave rationally....at least not for long.

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Althea said:
Cutting back on early voting. Reducing precincts in Blue districts. Cutting back on voting hours. Cutting back on drop boxes. Cutting back on mail in voting.

On top of that, they now have/want partisans overseeing elections, with the authority to challenge any and all votes for any reason.
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I understand and don't think most of those actions were necessary. But things like early voting for 2-3 weeks, extended hours, drop boxes, and mail-in voting did not even exist a few years ago in most states and nobody complained their votes were being suppressed. None of those things should stop a person from voting who puts in a little effort.

Again, I can find no evidence of voter fraud or voter suppression. I did find one 90+ year old veteran who could not vote because he did not have a voter ID. He had the necessary documents, he just did not know he had to bring them. He cast a provisional ballot.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You currently have. What laws are on the books? Anything like in Texas or Florida on redistricting, limiting polls in high density areas/low income?

Yes, counselor, I'm certain it's all legal just as I'm certain it's unethical and anti-American.
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"Counselor?"

If those things are illegal and anti-American they are much less so today. Some of the redistricting practices when the Democrats dominated the South were much worse. In some states they would not even redistrict because they did not want the urban areas to gain more representation. Supreme Court decisions have eliminated many of the earlier practices like racial gerrymandering.

Redistricting does not affect the right to vote although it may mean your candidate might not win. Limiting voting precincts can easily be remedied by early voting where there are seldom any lines.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
by now most of the idiots who DID vote for Biden realize what a big mistake they made........
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No doubt, but they are still glad they got rid of Trump, especially after he tried to block the election results. My county voted 88% for Trump and now I know some who would not support him again because he failed to uphold the oath of office and for the first time in your history tried to illegally overturn an election. Most of the other 88% are idiots who actually believe his election fraud lies and defend the riots as a "peaceful protest."
 
PostmodernProphet said:
real people can vote.......it's the dead vote that's being denied.......
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They only found four dead people who voted in 2020. Most of those on Rudy's "list" were people with the same name as the deceased, people who voted early and died before the election, or other reasons found when the states researched the election fraud claims.

That is the reason the court cases filed to overturn the election contained only allegations but no evidence.
 
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