Libya attack: US doubts that Al Qaeda planned ahead

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Speaking on "Fox News Sunday,” Ambassador Rice asserted that the US had no “actionable intelligence” that might have alerted officials to the attack in Benghazi, which killed US Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other embassy personnel.

That’s a key point, addressing at least indirectly the question of whether State Department andDefense Department assets could have been deployed to protect or remove US diplomatic personnel in Benghazi before the ultimately deadly protest occurred.

Forty-eight hours before the protests in Cairo and Benghazi, US intelligence officials sent a cable to the embassy in Egypt warning of the YouTube video and the reaction it might cause, according to a CNN report, but the cable was not sent to the embassy in Tripoli, Libya or the consulate in Benghazi. Like many US diplomatic outposts, the Benghazi consulate relied on local security forces.

Whether or not it was Al Qaeda per se, the organization has cooperated with terrorist groups worldwide including “The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group,” according to GlobalSecurity.org. In a 2008 cable made public by WikiLeaks, Ambassador Stevens described the Libyan port city of Derna (in the eastern part of the country, as is Benghazi) as "a wellspring of Libyan foreign fighters" for Al Qaeda in Iraq.

Rice’s comments put her at odds with Libyan officials, who continue to insist that the attack that killed Ambassador Stevens and the other Americans was planned well in advance of the protests that began on the anniversary of 9/11 and spread around the world.

"It was planned, definitely, it was planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago, and they were planning this criminal act since their arrival," Libyan President Mohammed Magarief said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday.

So far, Libyan authorities have arrested some 50 individuals suspected of being connected to last week’s attack. President Magarief told CBS the suspects are connected to Al Qaeda, or are affiliates and sympathizers."We don't know what are the real intentions of these perpetrators," he said. "They entered Libya from different directions. Some of them definitely from Mali and Algeria."

While they do not go that far in detailing their suspicions, some knowledgeable US lawmakers still think Al Qaeda may have been involved.

"There's huge gaps in what we know," US Rep. Mike Rogers (R) of Michigan, chairman of theHouse Intelligence Committee and a former FBI agent, said on “Fox News Sunday.” "There's other information, classified information we have that just makes you stop for a minute and pause
http://www.minnpost.com/christian-s...libya-attack-us-doubts-al-qaeda-planned-ahead (more)
 
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What a crock of shit.
 
Well of course the administration is going to say that and of course their lapdogs in the media and their sycophants in this board will lap it up like pablum. Nothing can be allowed to get in the way of their Dear Leaders reelection. Not even the truth. No truly sentient being believes that this unrest us because of a movie. If they believe that, they should not be allowed to vote.

This stupid movie has been around for months now
 
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What a crock of shit.
LOL which crock of shit are we talking about????
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...rs-reader-questions-about-embassy-attack?lite (videoNBC news)

Libya officials in the region continue to maintain that last week's deadly attack on the U.S. consulate was a targeted, pre-planned assault, carried out by foreigners. Meanwhile, U.S. officials claim there is no evidence to support this claim.

EDIT: found this comment:
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An intelligence source on the ground in Libya said that there was no demonstration outside the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi prior to last week's attack -- challenging the Obama administration's claims that the assault grew out of a "spontaneous" protest against an anti-Islam film.

The intelligence source said no protests were happening before the attackers struck at about 9:35 p.m. local time last Tuesday. The account backs up claims by a purported Libyan security guard who told McClatchy Newspapers late last week that the area was quiet before the attack.

"There wasn't a single ant outside," the unnamed guard, who was being treated in a hospital, said in the interview.
 
LOL which crock of shit are we talking about????
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...rs-reader-questions-about-embassy-attack?lite (videoNBC news)

Libya officials in the region continue to maintain that last week's deadly attack on the U.S. consulate was a targeted, pre-planned assault, carried out by foreigners. Meanwhile, U.S. officials claim there is no evidence to support this claim.

EDIT: found this comment:
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An intelligence source on the ground in Libya said that there was no demonstration outside the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi prior to last week's attack -- challenging the Obama administration's claims that the assault grew out of a "spontaneous" protest against an anti-Islam film.

The intelligence source said no protests were happening before the attackers struck at about 9:35 p.m. local time last Tuesday. The account backs up claims by a purported Libyan security guard who told McClatchy Newspapers late last week that the area was quiet before the attack.

"There wasn't a single ant outside," the unnamed guard, who was being treated in a hospital, said in the interview.

It's all a crock of shit.

Attacks just spontaneously happened on 9/11???

You casn't seriously believe that bullshit. Of course they were planned .. and they had little to nothing to do with a movie.

The administration is just trying to keep people from looking under the covers .. where they will find the CIA and Obama supporting, arming, and funding Al Queda.
 
It's all a crock of shit.

Attacks just spontaneously happened on 9/11???

You casn't seriously believe that bullshit. Of course they were planned .. and they had little to nothing to do with a movie.

The administration is just trying to keep people from looking under the covers .. where they will find the CIA and Obama supporting, arming, and funding Al Queda.

Think this could be Obamas Gulf of Tonkin?
 
It's all a crock of shit.

Attacks just spontaneously happened on 9/11???

You casn't seriously believe that bullshit. Of course they were planned .. and they had little to nothing to do with a movie.

The administration is just trying to keep people from looking under the covers .. where they will find the CIA and Obama supporting, arming, and funding Al Queda.

You have one thing right...the US funds AQ via heroin addicts.
 
Think this could be Obamas Gulf of Tonkin?

It could indeed be. The truth of Libya is being told all over the world.

American MSM won't go anywhere near the truth. For that matter .. neither will the American people. WE avoid truth like it has the bubonic plague.

But as this continues to play itself out, the truth may become unavoidable.
 
It could indeed be. The truth of Libya is being told all over the world.

American MSM won't go anywhere near the truth. For that matter .. neither will the American people. WE avoid truth like it has the bubonic plague.

But as this continues to play itself out, the truth may become unavoidable.

It is fascinating watching this movement to canonise Ghaddafi, rewriting history is not just confined to Russians apparently.
 
You have one thing right...the US funds AQ via heroin addicts.

Who do you think the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) is? Do the research.

They are terrorists, they are Al Queda.

Libyan Islamic Fighting Group

The list of people and organizations to which President Bush's executive order Monday that freezes U.S. assets applies: -- Osama bin Laden -- Al Qaeda/Islamic Army -- Abu Sayyaf Group -- Armed Islamic Group -- Harakat ul-Mujahidin -- Al-Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad) -- Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan -- Asbat al-Ansar -- Salafist Group for Call and Combat -- Libyan Islamic Fighting Group -- Al-Itihaad al-Islamiya -- Islamic Army of Aden -- Muhammad Atif (also known as Subhi Abu Sitta, Abu Hafs Al Masri)
http://articles.cnn.com/keyword/libyan-islamic-fighting-group

The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), along with its affiliates and predecessors, have been armed, trained, its leaders coddled and supported by the West for over 30 years. One of these predecessors, the US-CIA backed National Front for the Salvation of Libya (NFSL) made multiple attempts to assassinate Qaddafi and initiate armed rebellion throughout Libya during the 1980's.

Many of these fighters would also line the US-Saudi created front, Al Qaeda, when first it was conceived in the mountains of Afghanistan in the 1980's. Most of these fighters lived and operated from Libya's eastern region of Cyrenaica, and in particular, the cities of Benghazi and Darnah.

The US Army's West Point Combating Terrorism Center (CTC) noted in its report, "Al-Qa'ida's Foreign Fighters in Iraq," that these same fighters, drawn in particular from Benghazi and Darnah, would then move on to fighting US troops in both Afghanistan starting in 2001, and Iraq beginning in 2003, as well as contributing to the sectarian violence that made up the backbone of Iraq's so-called "civil war."

Whether or not their affiliation with Al Qaeda was official throughout the last 3 decades, the CTC's report confirms that by 2007, an announced merger was made:


The apparent surge in Libyan recruits traveling to Iraq maybe linked the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group’s (LIFG) increasingly cooperative relationship with al‐Qa’ida, which culminated in the LIFG officially joining al‐Qa’ida on November 3, 2007. (page 9, .pdf)

It would seem unthinkable then that the US would pick what was the epicenter of terrorism in Libya to make contacts with militants who had carried out three decades of terrorism and had even fought directly with US troops across multiple theaters of war - especially after these terrorists officially announced their merger with Al Qaeda. But that is exactly what the United States did.

Starting in March2011, US President Barack Obama appointed Christopher Stevens as "Special Representative to the Libyan Transitional National Council," and sent him to Benghazi to coordinate US military, diplomatic, and financial support to a"counter government" constituted from Cyrenaica's Al Qaeda terror battalions and a cadre of US-educated, politically cultivated proxies across the "National Transitional Council" (NTC).

Eventually, Stevens'mission would become a success. NATO-backed terrorists overran the Libyan government, overthrowing it in Tripoli, brutalizing the cities of Bani Walidand Sirte - with the help of several months of aerial bombardment from NATO- and exterminating or exiling the entire population (10,000 to 30,000 people) of Tawarga. And almost immediately after the US' success in Libya, the very terror brigades NATO had been funding, arming, training, and providing air support for, set out for the Turkish-Syrianborder where they began invading Syria.
http://www.infowars.com/us-ambassadors-death-fruits-of-us-foreign-policy/

Heroin has nothing to do with it.
 
It could indeed be. The truth of Libya is being told all over the world.

American MSM won't go anywhere near the truth. For that matter .. neither will the American people. WE avoid truth like it has the bubonic plague.

But as this continues to play itself out, the truth may become unavoidable.

That is true. As much as the media wants to protect Obama. They won't be able to.

Of course Romney is no better on foreign policy than the current occupant.

I personally don't care if Iran gets a nuke. Never have. Only one way to stop it and we aren't willing to pay that price. I don't think we should have troops anywhere in the world.

That being said, I would have a very itchy hair trigger. F with us and feel the fury.
 
It is fascinating watching this movement to canonise Ghaddafi, rewriting history is not just confined to Russians apparently.

Yet you say you are so concerned about Afghani women.

Libyan women enjoyed more freedom than anywhere in the Arab world, AND, they enjoyed far more freedom than Afghani women do now or have ever had.

Libyan Woman Have Vast Rights & Freedoms Under Gadaffi: Libya's War For The Abaya
http://abundanthope.net/pages/Polit...Have-Vast-Rights-Freedoms-Under-Gadaffi.shtml

Before NATO and the U.S. started bombing Libya, the United Nations was preparing to bestow an award on Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, and the Libyan Jamahiriya, for its achievements in the area of human rights. That's right--the same man, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, that NATO and the United States have been telling us for months is a "brutal dictator," was set to be given an award for his human rights record in Libya. How strange it is that the United Nations was set to bestow a human rights award on a "brutal dictator," at the end of March.

United Nations General Assembly: A/HRC/16/15: Distr.: General 4 January 2011

Human Rights Council
Sixteenth session
Agenda item 6
Universal Periodic Review

Report of the Working Group on the Universal Periodic Review
Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/16session/A-HRC-16-15.pdf

Guess what those Libyan women face now under Sharia Law which was not there under Gadaffi?

Clearly you do not know what you're talking about on Libya brother. You are the one being played.

Here's something really funny from the UN Report ..

72. The United States of America supported the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya’s increased
engagement with the international community. It called on the country to comply with its
human rights treaty obligations. It expressed concern about reports of the torture of
prisoners and about the status of freedom of expression and association, including in its
legislation, which often resulted in the arrest of people for political reasons. The United
States made recommendations.

The US was SENDING people to Libya TO BE TORTURED.

You don't know that either?
 
That is true. As much as the media wants to protect Obama. They won't be able to.

Of course Romney is no better on foreign policy than the current occupant.

I personally don't care if Iran gets a nuke. Never have. Only one way to stop it and we aren't willing to pay that price. I don't think we should have troops anywhere in the world.

That being said, I would have a very itchy hair trigger. F with us and feel the fury.

I agree with everything but your last statement. The US does not live in a bubble.
 
I agree with everything but your last statement. The US does not live in a bubble.

I don't think we live in a bubble, but we need to defend our interests. For example, I would open up trade with Cuba. I would buy oil from Iran. I don't care what the Mullahs do. As long as they aren't fucking with us, why do I care.

Of course I would close the UN and not have an embassy. There is no need for embassies with the internet.

I support Israel, but I would tell them they have to deal with their problems their way. I wouldn't get involved, but I wouldn't stop them from attacking Iran either. If it is none of our business, then it is none of our business. There is only one way for the Israeli/Arab conflict to be resolved. One side is going to have to lose. It is naive beyond extreme to think that a peace can be negotiated.
 
I don't think we live in a bubble, but we need to defend our interests. For example, I would open up trade with Cuba. I would buy oil from Iran. I don't care what the Mullahs do. As long as they aren't fucking with us, why do I care.

Of course I would close the UN and not have an embassy. There is no need for embassies with the internet.

I support Israel, but I would tell them they have to deal with their problems their way. I wouldn't get involved, but I wouldn't stop them from attacking Iran either. If it is none of our business, then it is none of our business. There is only one way for the Israeli/Arab conflict to be resolved. One side is going to have to lose. It is naive beyond extreme to think that a peace can be negotiated.

I would open up trade. travel, and dialouge with Cuba.

I would buy oil from Iran and I would be very clear with Israel that a war with Iran is not in American best interests.

I would NOT close the UN.

I would maintain embassies in countries that want them there.

I do not support Israel.
 
I would open up trade. travel, and dialouge with Cuba.

I would buy oil from Iran and I would be very clear with Israel that a war with Iran is not in American best interests.

I would NOT close the UN.

I would maintain embassies in countries that want them there.

I do not support Israel.

See how much we agree on? I follow the George Washington school of foreign affairs. He had it right

I also wouldn't be getting into these trade wars with China like Romney and Obama now want to do. Just because China punishes its people through subsidizing of industries does not mean we should punish our people. It is bad economic policy
 
See how much we agree on? I follow the George Washington school of foreign affairs. He had it right

I also wouldn't be getting into these trade wars with China like Romney and Obama now want to do. Just because China punishes its people through subsidizing of industries does not mean we should punish our people. It is bad economic policy

I also agree with you on Washington .. so does China.

China does what they see as China's best interests .. and they don't have to rely on mass-murder and wars to support them.
 
It's all a crock of shit.

Attacks just spontaneously happened on 9/11???

You casn't seriously believe that bullshit. Of course they were planned .. and they had little to nothing to do with a movie.

The administration is just trying to keep people from looking under the covers .. where they will find the CIA and Obama supporting, arming, and funding Al Queda.
LOL. Ya. I got it now.I was working and missed the Susan Wright's multiple sameness talking head scenairos the Adm was trying to sell over the weekend.

Who brings RPG's and gernades to a "spontaneous demonsration"??? :palm: - Hiding under the covers -yes, and locked in the closet to make it go away.

WTF? why not just admit it was an AQ or at least "foreign fighters" is consistent with all we know? Are they just practiced liars? Why??
 
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