Libs left with nothing to say
- Thread starter Dixie - In Memoriam
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Havin' a hard time w/ the word "trending," eh?
Dixie - In Memoriam
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If it were clear and understood the mistakes were made by Republicans, there would be no need for you to add the last part. It would 'go without saying' and be understood. Liars and dishonest fucks like you, often make this mistake, you assume people are as stupid and clueless as you are, and they won't pick up on this. Now let's be honest with the folks, shall we? The problems associated with Freddy and Fanny, which is what started this economic nosedive, are the direct result of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, easing the restrictions on low-income loans to people who didn't have the ability to repay them. It was their idea, their plan, their baby... and a Republican president went along with it, and took political credit for it before the wheels came off, but it was always a Democrat Liberal idea. Likewise, the stimulus was also a knee-jerk Liberal Democrat plan, to save us from certain 'financial catastrophe' ...we still had the catastrophe, but you can always claim things would have been worse. How? We could have 30% unemployment? Maybe so, but we wouldn't be 2 more trillion dollars in debt, either.
I guess I just see things differently, pinhead. I see Liberal Democrats fucking up one thing after another, left and right, six ways from Sunday... then stepping back and pointing their finger at Republicans, claiming THEY messed things up, and we need to elect more Democrats to fix things. The more Democrats we elect, the more fucked up things get, and they continue to blame this on Republicans. I think America is starting to catch on.
Are you actualy trying to imply BushII was not inept?
Do you really think any of BushII's policies or practices were his idea? Cheney was clearly not your run of the mill weak vice president, even declaring himself a seperate branch of government>
Because if you do them without malapropism you are a GENIUS!
I beg to disagree. I don't much care for the filtered info the gov. throws out there, statistics are too easy to manipulate, I go by the orders coming into my shop. I have more orders for work in the last couple weeks than in the previous year. I realize this could be an anomoly and also a local aberation, none the less orders to my studio are almost a direct mirror of the natitional economy.
Right, Bush wasn't pushing an "ownership society". Of course he was, just not in the manner represented. It is truly becoming an "ownership societ" now, problem is very few owners, lots of renters, helped along greatly by your hereo.
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No Joe.... Bush was absolutely inept. The point was, so many of Obama's worshipers in one breath tell us how inept Bush was, then they ignore the fact that Obama is continuing down the very same path of ineptitude.... at an even faster pace.
zappasguitar
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It's more like 2-1/2 years and the point is it takes time to correct mistakes, mistakes made by the Repubs.
Imagine where you'd be now if the Repubs had won in 2008 after their previous eight years of incompetence and mismanagement. Maybe people are thankful just for the fact the Republican downward spiral has stopped. That, alone, is plenty to be thankful for.
One more term for Obama and all will be well. In a few years you'll be looking for a new pick-up. Well, a new, used pick-up. We'll see you smiling again.
Now now now...you're just being ridiculous.
Righties are supposed to be allowed as much time as they need and don't need to show that any demonstrable benefits will ever actually occur in order to implement their programs...but Democrats must be able to show that from DAY ONE any recovery program will immediately have a positive effect on the economy.
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lol.... fair enough.... you use your one shop in one state in one city/town.... I'll just suffer through using national numbers.
zappasguitar
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I guess expecting Yurt to present an unbiased view is just too much to expect...but let's give him a big round of applause for the civility he showed, when he thoughtfully responded to Topspin instead of simply responding once again with another snarky non-answer...
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wtf?
and why are you still talking about other people's civility when you have none hypocrite? how was i uncivil in this thread?
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no, you are though. i've shown you that oil traders and others in the industry believe the economy is on a downward trend...you ignored that and you are now ignoring SF's information which show there is a downward trend. you're like the person who summits the mountain and then starts down the other side and right at the beginning of your decent you claim you're still climbing up the mountain...because that is what you have mostly been doing on the mountain so far.
zappasguitar
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Let's be clear and understand a couple things, alrightie dix?
First...you yourself just admitted that a Republican president TOOK POLITICAL CREDIT for Fanny and Freddy before troubles began...well then skippy...that baby belongs just as much to the RIGHT as it does to the Left...if he's going to take credit....then by GOD he can take some of the blame also.
Second...the reason you "see things differently" is because you are a hate-filled old man, watching change sweep over this nation and you know you are totally powerless to stop it. It so enrages you to have to share your neighborhoods and schools and places you do business with people of different ethnicities and color and religions.
Get used to it...America is changing...and if you can't grow beyond your outdated perceptions, you're going to wind up all alnoe with only your hate to keep you company.
no, you are though. i've shown you that oil traders and others in the industry believe the economy is on a downward trend...you ignored that and you are now ignoring SF's information which show there is a downward trend. you're like the person who summits the mountain and then starts down the other side and right at the beginning of your decent you claim you're still climbing up the mountain...because that is what you have mostly been doing on the mountain so far.
I was talking specifically about leading indicators, and which way they have been trending. Hey, I understand - trending can be a tough word.
I laughed at your post, because it didn't address leading indicators at all, and as usual, you thought it was actually a good rebuttal.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
How's this for Hope and Change?
Percent change since The Obama took office:
Avg.. Retail price/gallon gas in U.S. 79.6%
Crude oil, European Brent (barrel) 147.7%
Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel) 155.9%
Gold: London (per troy oz.) 70.5%
Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL 88.1%
Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL 42.3%
Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. Fob 184.7%
Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall 23.7%
Unemployment rate, blacks 25.4%
Number of unemployed 24.7%
Number of fed. Employees, ex. Military (curr = 12/10 prelim) 2.9%
Real median household income (2008 v 2009) -0.7%
Number of food stamp recipients (curr = 10/10) 35.1%
Number of unemployment benefit recipients (curr = 12/10) 22.2%
Number of long-term unemployed 146.2%
Poverty rate, individuals (2008 v 2009) 8.3%
People in poverty in U.S. (2008 v 2009) 9.5%
U.S.. Rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings Fell from 5 to 9
Failed banks (curr = 2010 + 2011 to date) 17.1%
U.S.. Dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate -8.6%
U.S.. Money supply, M1, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim) 18.4%
U.S.. Money supply, M2, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim) 6.5%
NATIONAL DEBT, in trillions 32.2%
[from an email, with source designations if some asshole dares challenge me]
Percent change since The Obama took office:
Avg.. Retail price/gallon gas in U.S. 79.6%
Crude oil, European Brent (barrel) 147.7%
Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel) 155.9%
Gold: London (per troy oz.) 70.5%
Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL 88.1%
Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL 42.3%
Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. Fob 184.7%
Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall 23.7%
Unemployment rate, blacks 25.4%
Number of unemployed 24.7%
Number of fed. Employees, ex. Military (curr = 12/10 prelim) 2.9%
Real median household income (2008 v 2009) -0.7%
Number of food stamp recipients (curr = 10/10) 35.1%
Number of unemployment benefit recipients (curr = 12/10) 22.2%
Number of long-term unemployed 146.2%
Poverty rate, individuals (2008 v 2009) 8.3%
People in poverty in U.S. (2008 v 2009) 9.5%
U.S.. Rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings Fell from 5 to 9
Failed banks (curr = 2010 + 2011 to date) 17.1%
U.S.. Dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate -8.6%
U.S.. Money supply, M1, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim) 18.4%
U.S.. Money supply, M2, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim) 6.5%
NATIONAL DEBT, in trillions 32.2%
[from an email, with source designations if some asshole dares challenge me]
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Dixie - In Memoriam
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I said that, pinhead. Bush took political credit for Barney Frank and Chris Dodd's baby. When he ran for re-election, I even pointed this out in support of Bush, that under Bush, there were more first time minority homeowners than ever before in history. Of course, you pinheads didn't hear it, you were too busy squawking about war crimes and Iraq to hear anything else, but I did point it out. I can admit, in retrospect, that it was a really bad idea, but the idea belonged to Barney and Chris, not Bush and Republicans.