Liberals want federal disaster funds withheld from states with lower state taxes

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This includes not only Texas, but Florida.

• How do state tax burdens affect federal tax receipts from that same state? They don't.
• Residents of every state are taxed by the federal government at the same rate.
• Federal disaster relief comes from the federal treasury.

Therefore it stands to reason that all states have an equal right to federal relief. The claim that low state tax rates should abrogate that equal right is specious and discriminatory.

Some liberals cry that "rich" states can afford to rebuild without federal disaster relief. While that argument may be superficially applicable to wealthy individuals who are adequately-insured and possess the capital to rebuild homes and businesses, it ignores the reality that many poor and middle-class Americans lack those resources. Thus the ugly reality of liberalism is exposed yet again.

Means-testing is not a requirement for a state to receive relief, in the aggregate or the individual level.

I hope liberals persist in making these discriminatory claims often, publicly. and in great numbers.

Midterms are coming.

 

[Silver Buzzard]

I want food, water, and oxygen withheld from anyone who voted Obama/Hillary.

Let's see who gets their wish first.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

just more idiot liberal hate for the south.

personally, if the libs want to make it so that the feds can withhold money from certain states for whatever reason, then those states can ignore federal law for whatever reason.

 

[MAGA MAN]

Citation needed.

 

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Citation needed.

Citation for what, exactly?

 

[MAGA MAN]

Citation for what, exactly?

Something to back up your claim in the thread title?

 

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This includes not only Texas, but Florida.

• How do state tax burdens affect federal tax receipts from that same state? They don't.
• Residents of every state are taxed by the federal government at the same rate.
• Federal disaster relief comes from the federal treasury.

Therefore it stands to reason that all states have an equal right to federal relief. The claim that low state tax rates should abrogate that equal right is specious and discriminatory.

Some liberals cry that "rich" states can afford to rebuild without federal disaster relief. While that argument may be superficially applicable to wealthy individuals who are adequately-insured and possess the capital to rebuild homes and businesses, it ignores the reality that many poor and middle-class Americans lack those resources. Thus the ugly reality of liberalism is exposed yet again.

Means-testing is not a requirement for a state to receive relief, in the aggregate or the individual level.

I hope liberals persist in making these discriminatory claims often, publicly. and in great numbers.

Midterms are coming.

Completely misses the point, what a surprise

No one ever bought up denying anyone Federal emergency aid

What was raised was the question if Texas, which conservatives tell us repeatedly is a rich State, a rich State with very few State taxes, which they sell themselves on, should help pay for some of the rebuilding of Texas after Harvey by initiating a State tax for that purpose rather than solely relying on the rest of America to do it for them.

And if Texas refused, perhaps thought should be given to some of the aid down the road given as a loan rather than a direct grant

Now lets see if "goddie" can screw that one up

 

[cawacko]

Completely misses the point, what a surprise

No one ever bought up denying anyone Federal emergency aid

What was raised was the question if Texas, which conservatives tell us repeatedly is a rich State, a rich State with very few State taxes, which they sell themselves on, should help pay for some of the rebuilding of Texas after Harvey by initiating a State tax for that purpose rather than solely relying on the rest of America to do it for them.

And if Texas refused, perhaps thought should be given to some of the aid down the road given as a loan rather than a direct grant

Now lets see if "goddie" can screw that one up

So you want Texas to pay for other states recoveries while paying for their own?

 

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Something to back up your claim in the thread title?

No one ever bought up denying anyone Federal emergency aid

Really? Looks like you admit that you want to withhold federal relief funds from Texas in the next paragraph.

What was raised was the question if Texas, which conservatives tell us repeatedly is a rich State, a rich State with very few State taxes, which they sell themselves on, should help pay for some of the rebuilding of Texas after Harvey by initiating a State tax for that purpose rather than solely relying on the rest of America to do it for them.

And if Texas refused, perhaps thought should be given to some of the aid down the road given as a loan rather than a direct grant

 

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So you want Texas to pay for other states recoveries while paying for their own?

Looks like he advocates "from each according to his means to each according to his needs" when it comes to federal disaster aid.

If Texans pay the same federal tax rates a everyone else (they do), why should they be denied any portion of the aid that another "more deserving" state gets?

 

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So you want Texas to pay for other states recoveries while paying for their own?

Where did I say that, you been hanging around with "goddie?"

Just raised the question if Texas, thru a State tax, the exact type of tax that they purposely avoid, should help pay for part of their own recovery

Why should the guy who lives in Massachusetts pay more to help rebuild Texas when they won't take the effort to raise rebuilding funds of their own State on their own?

 

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Looks like he advocates "from each according to his means to each according to his needs" when it comes to federal disaster aid.

Wrong again, but I'd bet you knew that before you posted it, ain't easy coming up with a rebuttal when you don't have one

 

[cawacko]

Where did I say that, you been hanging around with "goddie?"

Just raised the question if Texas, thru a State tax, the exact type of tax that they purposely avoid, should help pay for part of their own recovery

Why should the guy who lives in Massachusetts pay more to help rebuild Texas when they won't take the effort to raise rebuilding funds of their own State on their own?

Show is again where Texas is using any less of its own money than other states

 

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Ain't easy coming up with a rebuttal when you don't have one

It never seems to stop you from trying.

Here's you arguing for means-testing states on federal disaster relief.

What was raised was the question if Texas, which conservatives tell us repeatedly is a rich State, a rich State with very few State taxes, which they sell themselves on, should help pay for some of the rebuilding of Texas after Harvey by initiating a State tax for that purpose rather than solely relying on the rest of America to do it for them.

And if Texas refused, perhaps thought should be given to some of the aid down the road given as a loan rather than a direct grant

Have you ever made the argument that New York or California should pay their own way when disaster strikes because they are "rich" states?

 

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It never seems to stop you from trying.

Here's you arguing for means-testing states on federal disaster relief.





Have you ever made the argument that New York or California should pay their own way when disaster strikes because they are "rich" states?

Last time, it is not an argument on means testing, which is irrelevant to begin with, only a deflection attempt, and no one can explain it enough to satisfy by your obstinate view

And the States you mention have State taxes in place to assist them in disasters, they don't rely totally on Federal funds to rebuild

 

[domer76]

just more idiot liberal hate for the south.

personally, if the libs want to make it so that the feds can withhold money from certain states for whatever reason, then those states can ignore federal law for whatever reason.

lol

Wrong again, idiot.

 

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Show is again where Texas is using any less of its own money than other states

Are you purposely dense or playing?

If a State has less State tax, considerably less, it kinda makes sense that they probably have less funds on hand, or the capability of raising additional funds necessary without raising a State tax, as I said, common sense

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him .................

 

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Last time, it is not an argument on means testing, which is irrelevant to begin with, only a deflection attempt, and no one can explain it enough to satisfy by your obstinate view And the States you mention have State taxes in place to assist them in disasters, they don't rely totally on Federal funds to rebuild

You can't explain your stated position because it's illogical, and you know it.

State taxes, net value and per capita income are irrelevant to federal disaster aid. By conflating them, you are advocating for means-testing states.

 

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Are you purposely dense or playing?

If a State has less State tax, considerably less, it kinda makes sense that they probably have less funds on hand, or the capability of raising additional funds necessary without raising a State tax, as I said, common sense You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him .................

You can lead me to bullshit, but I won't lap it up.

I see "kinda" "probably" "sense". All indications that you have no factual basis for your argument.

Isn't it true that you think states with a lower state tax burden (and the same federal tax burden as other states) should have federal disaster relief funds withheld on some sort of mean-tested sliding scale?

Answer the question: yes, or no.

 

[cawacko]

Are you purposely dense or playing?

If a State has less State tax, considerably less, it kinda makes sense that they probably have less funds on hand, or the capability of raising additional funds necessary without raising a State tax, as I said, common sense

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him .................

no it doesn't 'kind of make sense' because you have zero idea how they spend their money or how much they have in reserve. Again, the Tax Foundation article crushed your argument. You just keep grasping