Liberal tried to assassinate Trump over fear he would become president

Rana said:
I did not ever see Bernie encouraging people to "punch them in their face" and it is a valid and necessary comparison, the rise of Hitler happened very slowly and Trump uses some of his techniques. Trump would have his protestors beaten if he could. Thankfully, he was shut down pretty quickly on encouraging violence and I think became a little fearful when violence started to be used against him.
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I call bull crap on that.
 
Seahawk said:
You ignored my entire post. Didn't answer a single question.

Guess there is no changing your mind, you are set in your ways and want to believe you are superior.

I do believe, Hitler believed the same. Shall I compare you to Hitler?
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perhaps we need to start comparing Hillary and Pol Pot.......
 
Thing1 said:
Why are you focused on Jews? Are you suggesting that someone has to be bigoted against Jews specifically to warrant a comparison to Hitler?

Yes or no on that. Honestly, if you come back w/ a yes, we don't have to keep talking about it.
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we know the truth......the only reason you want to compare Trump with Hitler is because he had a nasty mustache.......
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
I call bull crap on that.
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he did . It was mostly talk -but it was said, by Trump.
He is not discriminate in his language and it wanders all over the place.

I only saw the one punch thrown ( could be more0. and the protestors who come to the Trump rallies are doing the same thing..
worse in cases.. nobody gets an excuse for instigating violence
 
Thing1 said:
Why are you focused on Jews? Are you suggesting that someone has to be bigoted against Jews specifically to warrant a comparison to Hitler?

Yes or no on that. Honestly, if you come back w/ a yes, we don't have to keep talking about it.
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Well, if kinda/sorta is the standard you can compare lots of pols to Hitler. Hell, let's compare Trump to Teddy Rosevelt while we're at it.

Okay, Hitler had an ideology and he wrote a book about. It would be nice if more people who attempt the comparison would actually read it.

What is Trump's ideology?
 
anatta said:
Hillary as CIC?? Do you want more interventionism? Oh it's a sitcom alright, the absolute dregs of the earth for candidates.

The Hitler stuff is not worth mentioning - it's nationalism but not fascism.

and fnally this is completely wrong:
I'd remove WaPo's credentials too if I was Trump-Bernie would have been better off with that rag not getting access.
But this has nothing to do with a Free Press or censorship.
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Every campaign restricts access to the candidate by the press. But, Trump takes it further than anyone else. He refuses to let the press interview the people at his rallies. Remember the scene of the Secret Service choke slammed a journalist? That was because they attempted to leave their designated media area. Now, maybe I'm wrong, really, I don't know. Is it normal for the press to be corralled all together in a designated area? As far as, foreign policy - has Trump figured out what the "nuclear tirade" is yet?
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Well, if kinda/sorta is the standard you can compare lots of pols to Hitler. Hell, let's compare Trump to Teddy Rosevelt while we're at it.

Okay, Hitler had an ideology and he wrote a book about. It would be nice if more people who attempt the comparison would actually read it.

What is Trump's ideology?
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Trump's ideology is Trump - just as Hitler's was Hitler.

They're both classic narcissists. But they mask their narcissism with fierce nationalism, combined with scapegoating and pitting ethnic/religious/racial groups against one another.

But ultimately, they're both 100% about themselves. Germans didn't really realize it w/ Hitler until he was holed up in his bunker, demanding that his loyal soldiers fight to the death to give him a few more hours.
 
Daimoku said:
Every campaign restricts access to the candidate by the press. But, Trump takes it further than anyone else. He refuses to let the press interview the people at his rallies. Remember the scene of the Secret Service choke slammed a journalist? That was because they attempted to leave their designated media area. Now, maybe I'm wrong, really, I don't know. Is it normal for the press to be corralled all together in a designated area? As far as, foreign policy - has Trump figured out what the "nuclear tirade" is yet?
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Trump uses a media area -Clinton a ropeline, neither are media friendly. Clinton has much smaller tame crowds.

I meant that removing credentials from WaPo is understandable - I'd have done the same thing if I was Bernie.
That is a Hollary rag, and an online hit sight for Trump.

CiC has the WH NSC, DNI,and CIA as built in "advisors" - while Trump didn't know the nomenclature he would know strategic deterrance.
CiC get much briefings, their job is to distill and use as policy.

Considering Hillary was chief advocate,and architect of the 2011 Libyan war -which created the current failed, terrorsist infested state
and her vote for the Iraq war, and her calling for arming the Syrian rebels...she has a horrible judgment -
a Bernie correctly hither on.
 
Thing1 said:
Trump's ideology is Trump - just as Hitler's was Hitler.

They're both classic narcissists. But they mask their narcissism with fierce nationalism, combined with scapegoating and pitting ethnic/religious/racial groups against one another.

But ultimately, they're both 100% about themselves. Germans didn't really realize it w/ Hitler until he was holed up in his bunker, demanding that his loyal soldiers fight to the death to give him a few more hours.
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You've really gone off the anti-Trump deep end lol.

Okay, is Hillary not all about Hillary? Why can't Hillary be Hitler?
 
anatta said:
Trump uses a media area -Clinton a ropeline, neither are media friendly. Clinton has much smaller tame crowds.

I meant that removing credentials from WaPo is understandable - I'd have done the same thing if I was Bernie.
That is a Hollary rag, and an online hit sight for Trump.

CiC has the WH NSC, DNI,and CIA as built in "advisors" - while Trump didn't know the nomenclature he would know strategic deterrance.
CiC get much briefings, their job is to distill and use as policy.

Considering Hillary was chief advocate,and architect of the 2011 Libyan war -which created the current failed, terrorsist infested state
and her vote for the Iraq war, and her calling for arming the Syrian rebels...she has a horrible judgment -
a Bernie correctly hither on.
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I wasn't aware Hillary Clinton had rope lines inside her rallies. Nor, was I aware that the fact that Hillary Clinton supporters don't punch people in the face had anything to do with how the media is treated. Yes, that's snark.

Trump was asked about the nuclear triad by a journalist during a debate. I'm sure journalist don't have access to the same foreign policy advisors as the president. The response was one of the most uninformed babbling anyone has ever seen. It was clear he had no Earthly idea what so ever what he was talking about.

There's been much ado about what Hillary Clinton's role was in Libyan Civil War intervention. Her voice was influential in helping Obama to make up his mind. But, considering Obama knew that America was wary of any further military intervention, I'm sure he considered the advise on his entire foreign policy team. Claiming that she was the "chief architect of the Libyan War" is a bit hyperbolic. Especially, considering it was a coalition effort led by the UN. What the most important question becomes is "what would Trump have done differently"? Taking to twitter and calling people names is not a legitimate foreign policy platform.
 
Daimoku said:
I wasn't aware Hillary Clinton had rope lines inside her rallies. Nor, was I aware that the fact that Hillary Clinton supporters don't punch people in the face had anything to do with how the media is treated. Yes, that's snark.

Trump was asked about the nuclear triad by a journalist during a debate. I'm sure journalist don't have access to the same foreign policy advisors as the president. The response was one of the most uninformed babbling anyone has ever seen. It was clear he had no Earthly idea what so ever what he was talking about.

There's been much ado about what Hillary Clinton's role was in Libyan Civil War intervention. Her voice was influential in helping Obama to make up his mind. But, considering Obama knew that America was wary of any further military intervention, I'm sure he considered the advise on his entire foreign policy team. Claiming that she was the "chief architect of the Libyan War" is a bit hyperbolic. Especially, considering it was a coalition effort led by the UN. What the most important question becomes is "what would Trump have done differently"? Taking to twitter and calling people names is not a legitimate foreign policy platform.
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I'm not sure what she uses insie rallies -she uses the rope line outdoors.
But her rallies are so canned/planned I would think the press needs chairs so as not to fall over in boredom. this is all I can find
A tale of two rallies: How Trump and Clinton campaign
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/tale-two-rallies-how-trump-and-clinton-campaign

I'm no fan of Trump but as Bernie has said we know Clinton's judgement is awful Iraq/Libya & "Friends of Syria"

So do we rely on Trump's unkown ability to use advisors? or do we rely on Clinton's known arrogance/interventionism?
She still defends Libya as use of "smart power" (her book-debates). She's incapable of learning from her mistakes.

With due respect you are so clueless on Libya... I don't even know where to start..here's a few places for you to poke around.
"She was the 51% ( voice) on Obama's NSC" for Libyan war(Gates)
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Hillary Clinton,
‘Smart Power’
and a
Dictator’s Fall

The president was wary. The
secretary of state was persuasive.
But the ouster of Col. Muammar
el-Qaddafi left Libya a failed
state and a terrorist haven.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html <-- New York Times
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From: Jake Sullivan
Sant: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuiand, Victoria J
Subject: tidc todc on libya
this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but it shows S' Clinto
leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish, let me know what you
think. toria, who else might be able to add to this?

Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya
HRC has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group
meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the
authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.
https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRC_Email_1_296/HRCH1/DOC_0C05739752/C05739752.pdf
 
anatta said:
I'm not sure what she uses insie rallies -she uses the rope line outdoors.
But her rallies are so canned/planned I would think the press needs chairs so as not to fall over in boredom. this is all I can find
A tale of two rallies: How Trump and Clinton campaign
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/tale-two-rallies-how-trump-and-clinton-campaign

I'm no fan of Trump but as Bernie has said we know Clinton's judgement is awful Iraq/Libya & "Friends of Syria"

So do we rely on Trump's unkown ability to use advisors? or do we rely on Clinton's known arrogance/interventionism?
She still defends Libya as use of "smart power" (her book-debates). She's incapable of learning from her mistakes.

With due respect you are so clueless on Libya... I don't even know where to start..here's a few places for you to poke around.
"She was the 51% ( voice) on Obama's NSC" for Libyan war(Gates)
++
Hillary Clinton,
‘Smart Power’
and a
Dictator’s Fall

The president was wary. The
secretary of state was persuasive.
But the ouster of Col. Muammar
el-Qaddafi left Libya a failed
state and a terrorist haven.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html <-- New York Times
++

From: Jake Sullivan
Sant: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuiand, Victoria J
Subject: tidc todc on libya
this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but it shows S' Clinto
leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish, let me know what you
think. toria, who else might be able to add to this?

Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya
HRC has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group
meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the
authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.
https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRC_Email_1_296/HRCH1/DOC_0C05739752/C05739752.pdf
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The easiest way to find out how the press is treated by the candidates is just by listening to what they say. They have reported being corralled in one designated area inside Trump rallies. We've seen vids of the Secret Service aggressively enforcing those boundaries. The fact that Trump would use the Secret Service for the purpose of silencing the press is unconscionable. I'm sure if Hillary Clinton's Secret Service had done the same it would be all over the news. In fact, I'm sure the Republican control congress would have held congressional hearings on it from then until , who knows when?

Between Clinton and Trump on foreign policy I'd choose Clinton any day of the week (and twice on Sunday). What I find interesting, is that when I asked you what Trump would have done differently regarding intervention in the Civil War conflict in Libya, your answer was essentially..." I don't know". I will , however, agree with you on what Sanders said. He too, tried to accuse Hillary Clinton of being an interventionist. To which, Hillary Clinton retorted that Sanders' had voted for regime change in Libya. How convenient it must be for Sanders' to now second guess Hillary Clinton because the regime change , he approved of, ultimately resulted in such an unpredictable outcome.

Having said that, I would have preferred either Sanders or Clinton to Trump. At least, with them we know what we're getting. With Trump, based on what we've seen, it's likely he'll start a nuclear war because one of our allies made fun of his ridiculous comb over.
 
summary of this thread

People calling Trump Hitler and condemning the use of violence while defending an assasination attempt.
 
A better summary- a bunch of semi-bored keyboard-proficient Americans- plus one or two maladjusted foreign ass-lickers- wasting their lives discussing the ramifications of absolutely no political choice at all .

You are stuffed, brothers and sisters. The sham is a reality. The farce will continue until November and engage you with so much guff that you will be politically incapacitated until the next millionaire/billionaire takes his/her seat atop the pyramid of serfs and sycophants whose immoral practices have milked you for the means to stage the next act of this atrocious play in the first place. Then you will be transfixed by four more years of their self-serving in-house chatter until it's , once again, time for you to don your spear-carriers' garb of enfranchisement , enter stage left or right and exit stage right or left having made absolutely no contribution to anything at all except the perpetuation of the parody of democracy.

All around you your world will rot and contract as the powerful squeeze it for its resources and throw you the bones of their gorging as toys of distraction; cars, tablets, robots, games, guns and household appliances . Your water will sour, your air taint and your skies darken, your hopes for a future for your children pinned upon an occasional streak of silver rocket aimed at a universe that doesn't want us.

Imagine, if you can, producing Trump or Clinton for some cosmic visitor that asks to meet your leader.
 
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