Liberal ideas move from fringe to front-burner for Democrats

My goal is for people to stop demanding someone offset their lack of skills and start taking responsibility for themselves. For those of us that have accepted it and done well, we continue to raise our standard of living. You want the low skilled folks to have their standard raised by doing nothing but begging for it. If that particular group's standard is lowered in order to motivate them to do better, fine by me. Since their current standard is based on receiving someone else's money through handouts, it needs to be lowered until they decide to better themselves.

So you argued before it wasn't a moral thing, but here you are making that exact same argument again, in contradiction to what you said before.

You're tying wage to moral character, after pretending you weren't doing that.

Are you schizo or something? Multiple personality disorder? What gives with the self-contradictions?
 
Step up how?

Also, if you get rid of assistance, you lower the standard of living for everyone, including yourself.

That's your goal?

By making an effort instead of making excuses.

If you get rid of handouts, the only ones affected are those getting handouts. Those of us that provide for ourselves and take responsibility for ourselves raise ours.
 
Since their current standard is based on receiving someone else's money through handouts, it needs to be lowered until they decide to better themselves.

So here you are; arguing to lower everyone's standard of living because of your subjective moral judgment that is completely unearned and to which you have no entitlement.

Got it.
 
So you argued before it wasn't a moral thing, but here you are making that exact same argument again, in contradiction to what you said before.

You're tying wage to moral character, after pretending you weren't doing that.

Are you schizo or something? Multiple personality disorder? What gives with the self-contradictions?

I'm tying thinking because you can't make a higher wage that you deserve someone else's money to moral standard. If you can't make it, thus, demanding social welfare handouts, you have no character. You refuse to do for yourself.
 
Freeloaders need to have their standard cut in order to motivate them to do better.

You can't cut their standard of living without cutting everyone else's. You understand that, right? So if you cut the standard of living, you are telling everyone that America needs to be more like China or Mexico.


When you reduce it for those unwilling to do for themselves and people that have been forced to support their sorry asses for years get to keep more of their own money, it raises their standard.

Unwilling? They're employed. They have jobs. They work. The businesses are padding their profits by relying on welfare to bridge the gap on low wages. That's welfare dependency. Businesses' profits are directly related to the amount of assistance their workers get.
 
And the worth is determined by both assistance and the wage. Because the assistance is supplemental to the wage.

Worth is determined by the skill. Level of freeloading is determined by whether or not you expect someone to offset your low skills.

Face it, boy, you're an inferior dumbass and have been since the day you were born. A by product of poor genetics,.
 
You're a fucking coward that says I shouldn't own something then refuses, with permission, to try and take it. Rest assured I have no problem defending myself without a gun. Rest assured you're not man enough to find out.

If I wanted to take it, I'd just wait for you to leave your house. Like what criminals do when they case a joint.

Yeah, you have no problem defending yourself with a gun because you're physically and mentally incapable of defending yourself any other way.

So you're lazy and a pussy.
 
I want you to prove your claim that you're 100% positive that I receive handouts. Can you, nigger, or do you simply run your mouth like the typical coon?

It's an assumption, of course. But it's informed by your inability to use the English language correctly, and your resentment for people who accept handouts. It's like you're overcompensating for something by taking such a drastic approach and extreme position. I wonder what that overcompensation could be for...?
 
You can't cut their standard of living without cutting everyone else's. You understand that, right? So if you cut the standard of living, you are telling everyone that America needs to be more like China or Mexico.




Unwilling? They're employed. They have jobs. They work. The businesses are padding their profits by relying on welfare to bridge the gap on low wages. That's welfare dependency. Businesses' profits are directly related to the amount of assistance their workers get.

If you cut social welfare, you don't lower the standard of those not receiving them.

There is absolutely nothing to prove that a business would raise wages if welfare was cut. NOTHING.

If a freeloaders demands social welfare, he's unwilling to do for himself or he wouldn't demand it. You should have learned that having demanded it all your life. Another multi generational good for nothing living off honorable people like me. You'd do the country a favor if you'd voluntarily stop breathing.
 
By making an effort instead of making excuses

Unlike you, they have a job. So they're making the effort by being employed. So what the fuck did you mean when you said they should "step up"? Can you speak in specifics or only broad generalities?


If you get rid of handouts, the only ones affected are those getting handouts. Those of us that provide for ourselves and take responsibility for ourselves raise ours.

OMFG - NO! You can't lower one group's standard of living without lowering everyone else's! Jesus fucking Christ, have you ever taken a macroeconomics class in your life? You're just spouting off nonsense, off the top of your head, thinking the force of your conviction can carry your argument. What a joke.

Lowering the standard of living affects everyone. It results in everyone's standard of living declining. You can't do it in a vacuum. FFS, get a clue.
 
If I wanted to take it, I'd just wait for you to leave your house. Like what criminals do when they case a joint.

Yeah, you have no problem defending yourself with a gun because you're physically and mentally incapable of defending yourself any other way.

So you're lazy and a pussy.

You don't have the guts to try, boy.
 
Unlike you, they have a job. So they're making the effort by being employed. So what the fuck did you mean when you said they should "step up"? Can you speak in specifics or only broad generalities?




OMFG - NO! You can't lower one group's standard of living without lowering everyone else's! Jesus fucking Christ, have you ever taken a macroeconomics class in your life? You're just spouting off nonsense, off the top of your head, thinking the force of your conviction can carry your argument. What a joke.

Lowering the standard of living affects everyone. It results in everyone's standard of living declining. You can't do it in a vacuum. FFS, get a clue.

Trying and succeeding are two different things. When they fail resulting in demands for help, they're no longer willing.

My standard of living isn't lowered because so freeloader has less money. I can still buy the same things. They can't.
 
I'm tying thinking because you can't make a higher wage that you deserve someone else's money to moral standard.

Anyone who works deserves a wage high enough that they don't qualify for government assistance.

If your business cannot pay people that high a wage and still be profitable, then your business deserves to die.

You're not entitled to owning a business.
 
It's an assumption, of course. But it's informed by your inability to use the English language correctly, and your resentment for people who accept handouts. It's like you're overcompensating for something by taking such a drastic approach and extreme position. I wonder what that overcompensation could be for...?

Changing your story, huh? You were 100% certain before. Why the change? Must have realized you can't prove a false claim.

I resent anyone that demands someone else support them.
 
If you can't make it, thus, demanding social welfare handouts, you have no character. You refuse to do for yourself.

So before, when you said you weren't tying wages to moral character, you were lying. Or you just didn't understand what you wrote.
 
Worth is determined by the skill. Level of freeloading is determined by whether or not you expect someone to offset your low skills.

Assistance programs exist because wages aren't high enough to provide an adequate standard of living for workers. So the only solution to getting rid of those programs is to increase wages.

But you're here arguing that a business can't be profitable unless it pays its employees shit wages.

That's not a successful business...that's welfare dependency. The business creates the demand for welfare because the business pays its workers shit wages because that's the only way that business can succeed. In other words, corporate welfare.
 
If you cut social welfare, you don't lower the standard of those not receiving them..

YES YOU FUCKING DO.

Crack open a book about macroeconomics.

FFS, I'm tired of right-wing idiots exercising Dunning-Kruger to screech about things of which they know nothing.
 
There is absolutely nothing to prove that a business would raise wages if welfare was cut. NOTHING.

Exactly my point. That's why the only result of what you want to do would be a reduction in the standard of living in the US.

Macroeconomics dictates that you can't reduce the standard of living for a specific group of workers in a vacuum. It's impossible to do. If you spent even an hour in a classroom, you'd know this and wouldn't make such terrible arguments.
 
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