Liberal ideas move from fringe to front-burner for Democrats

The other people in my insurance group are also paying premiums. They aren't in it unless they are. What you support are those not paying a dime getting something.

Where did anyone say such a thing!?

A single-payer system is funded by everyone contributing the same % of their income in taxes; that is the premium.

Wow.
 
Taking and giving doesn't address why poverty is so sticky. It treats the symptom. It doesn't cure the problem.

The problem is that capitalism is fundamentally and structurally unable to provide an adequate standard of living for the working class. So government has to be there to make up for that gap.
 
Yes you can. Literally, by definition you can. Redistributing wealth would eradicate poverty.




The "War on Poverty" was working just fine through the 1970's, and then scared by its success, you Conservatives starting cutting those programs since the 80's, then point to the programs you defunded that are now not working as proof the programs don't work. They do work, you just sabotage them because you don't want to admit you're wrong. So you put people in bad positions for the sake of your own shitty ego.

Get over yourself.

Any program that works on the concept of someone unwilling to do for him/herself getting something as a result of other people working for themselves is a failure from the start.

People put themselves in bad positions then expect others to pay for their bad choices. If handing one person someone else's money worked, poverty would have been eradicated having wasted $22 trillion trying to do it.
 
Any program that works on the concept of someone unwilling to do for him/herself getting something as a result of other people working for themselves is a failure from the start.

Too bad that's nothing like what was proposed, or put in practice.

What hasn't worked is cutting taxes for the rich and corporations. All that's done is make the wealth gap larger.




People put themselves in bad positions then expect others to pay for their bad choices.

You mean like banks did after the Great Bush Economic Collapse? Oh, haha J/K, they didn't pay shit.


If handing one person someone else's money worked, poverty would have been eradicated having wasted $22 trillion trying to do it.

Well, we didn't do that and poverty was declining throughout the 70's. Then you shitheads got elected in 1980, started cutting those programs, then marveled at how unsuccessful they were like a bunch of obtuse idiots. The programs were working fine, then you cut them, then they started to fail.
 
Too bad that's nothing like what was proposed, or put in practice.

What hasn't worked is cutting taxes for the rich and corporations. All that's done is make the wealth gap larger.






You mean like banks did after the Great Bush Economic Collapse? Oh, haha J/K, they didn't pay shit.




Well, we didn't do that and poverty was declining throughout the 70's. Then you shitheads got elected in 1980, started cutting those programs, then marveled at how unsuccessful they were like a bunch of obtuse idiots. The programs were working fine, then you cut them, then they started to fail.

The wealth gap has to do with freeloaders not wanting to work and expecting others to give them what they didn't earn.

No, I mean like low wage/no wage lazy POS that won't do for themselves.

I've explained how any program where one group is forced to support those not willing to do for themselves is a failure by design.
 
The wealth gap has to do with freeloaders not wanting to work and expecting others to give them what they didn't earn

Most people who receive government assistance are employed. They just get paid wages so low, they qualify for those programs. If you wanted fewer people on government programs, the only way to achieve that is to increase wages...which you oppose. So how is your entire belief system not masturbatory? You complain about a problem for which you oppose the only solution. So you're complaining just to complain and you're perpetuating the problem in order to complain about it.

Get over yourself.
 
No, I mean like low wage/no wage lazy POS that won't do for themselves.

So people who make low wages are lazy? Have you ever worked a shift at McDonald's? You wouldn't last an hour.


I've explained how any program where one group is forced to support those not willing to do for themselves is a failure by design.

No one is calling for that; you're constructing a straw man around the "prosperity gospel" because you're not a deep thinker.
 
So people who make low wages are lazy? Have you ever worked a shift at McDonald's? You wouldn't last an hour.




No one is calling for that; you're constructing a straw man around the "prosperity gospel" because you're not a deep thinker.

Said they wouldn't do for themselves. I choose to use my intelligence not read prompts like "would you like fries with that?" However, I could last and actually do the job.

The programs that were implemented to eradicate poverty work exactly like that. Those funding don't get and those getting don't fund.
 
Progressive =/= liberal. The DNC can pretend to support progressive ideas all its wants, but it its hands, those ideas almost always get morphed into some proposal that is designed to be yet another Wall Street subsidy/Donor payola scheme.

I think pelosi needs to stand down. She threw al franken to the wolves. Also she's a fucking billionaire. A rat guarding cheese.
 
The wealth gap has to do with freeloaders not wanting to work and expecting others to give them what they didn't earn.

No, I mean like low wage/no wage lazy POS that won't do for themselves.

I've explained how any program where one group is forced to support those not willing to do for themselves is a failure by design.

let the doctors decide who is fit to work and not greedy pigs like you.
 
I think pelosi needs to stand down. She threw al franken to the wolves. Also she's a fucking billionaire. A rat guarding cheese.
She was very effective as a leader, that is why Conservatives hate her, but she did her time, so the Dems should elect new blood.
 
Where did anyone say such a thing!?

A single-payer system is funded by everyone contributing the same % of their income in taxes; that is the premium.

Wow.

Where do you come up with this stupidity? I assume you have a link that shows that EVERYONE in countries with single payer health pay the same % of their income?
 
The problem is that capitalism is fundamentally and structurally unable to provide an adequate standard of living for the working class.

Really? That's laughably stupid. So what other system provides a better standard of living than our system?

So government has to be there to make up for that gap.

Where is that in the Constitution? Does Cuba do a better job? How about Venezuela? Maybe China? Moron. :rofl2:
 
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Most people who receive government assistance are employed. They just get paid wages so low, they qualify for those programs. If you wanted fewer people on government programs, the only way to achieve that is to increase wages...which you oppose. So how is your entire belief system not masturbatory? You complain about a problem for which you oppose the only solution. So you're complaining just to complain and you're perpetuating the problem in order to complain about it.

Government welfare only creates dependency and an avenue for dishonest politicians to buy the votes of the willfully ignorant.

One has to answer the question of why one gets paid such a low wage they cannot make it on their own? Education? Do they have a criminal record? Are they on drugs? Or could it be a simple as they are just starting out in the workforce and are young.

Get over yourself.

Irony from someone who is very full of themselves but lacks the basic intelligence God gave a lemming. :rofl2:
 
So people who make low wages are lazy? Have you ever worked a shift at McDonald's? You wouldn't last an hour.

Apparently you don't know the difference between HARD work that requires effort, and work that merely requires one stand on their feet performing menial tasks requiring very little effort.

Who works at McDonald's? College graduates? Older men and women? No; it is usually a combination of low education and lack of work experience.

I am also amused that you stupidly believe that there isn't an entire culture out there gaming the welfare system while doing nothing other than making babies, selling drugs or robbing homes.

No one is calling for that; you're constructing a straw man around the "prosperity gospel" because you're not a deep thinker.

I am amused by the moronic notion that turning citizens into dependent wards of the state constitutes "deep thinking." That's fucking funny!

We have spent $22 trillion in the war on poverty since it was declared by Johnson in the 60's. Today, we have more poverty than we had back then. Now anyone with half a brain would suggest that a program that spends that amount over five decades only to see an increase in poverty, is a failed policy and ideology.

But not you intellects on the left. What is your deep thinking on the topic; SPEND MORE! Moron.
 
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She was very effective as a leader, that is why Conservatives hate her, but she did her time, so the Dems should elect new blood.

Wrong; she was a miserable failure and says really stupid bullshit when she isn't lying. But she is what lying leftist love; a liar and a buffoon. I get why you would like her.

She might have a record of being the shortest run speaker of the house in history; if not the dumbest. :rofl2:

 
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