Liberal ideas move from fringe to front-burner for Democrats

[cawacko]

I'm actually glad they're coming up with original ideas. If we're stuck with two parties then competition is good for all of us.

I find it interesting to see where policy positions move over time regardless of whether its democrats or republicans.

 

[Nordberg]

Healthcare is a right. if we have a universal healthcare it would be cheaper. Most of us should know that we are being looted by the medical system and insurance companies. But they are huge corporations that can afford lobbying and huge donations to politicians. Healthcare is the exemplar of what has gone wrong in America. Universal healthcare would eliminate the VA. Vets could go to any doctor or hospital. Too bad they get better care at the VA.But it would be more convenient. It is not a bad idea.

Guaranteed jobs is on no platforms.

 

[rjhenn]

Healthcare, yes
Jobs for slobs yes
Mary Jane maybe- I dont want my kid to be a stoner but could care less about anyome else
I dont like that Facebook dude's free income deal though I understand why the uber rich are for that
whats left immigration? I like status quo under Obama, Trumps an asshole on every issue. Every one without exception

I would have been totally OK with what Hillary would would have done on just about anything I can think of.

If you look at the science, it's pretty clear that there's no justification for marijuana to be a Schedule I drug, or for it to be illegal at all.
Automation is going to destroy most jobs, while creating almost none, so a basic income is going to be a necessity at some point. Single-payer health insurance is also a no-brainer. We spend more on health care per capita than almost any other nation, and get less for it.

 

[CFM]

I think the powerful dems secretly wished trickle down actually worked, because true progressive redistribution on a scale that would eradicate poverty and lift the middle class would cost 5 trillion
per year. Hence the piecemeal efforts and ad hoc tapestry.... But alas, trickle down is an abject failure which simply serves to aggravate the extraction of wealth for those who actually toil to the
class of people who supposedly work by putting their money to work for themselves. Basically in this world if you can grift or earn 15 million, you can sit on your ass and turn that number into
100 million without lifting a finger.

You can't eradicate poverty by redistributing wealth. That's been proven by the fact $22 trillion has been wasted on a war on poverty designed to do that yet poverty at a level equal to or greater than before it started still exists.

 

[CFM]

Healthcare is a right. if we have a universal healthcare it would be cheaper. Most of us should know that we are being looted by the medical system and insurance companies. But they are huge corporations that can afford lobbying and huge donations to politicians. Healthcare is the exemplar of what has gone wrong in America. Universal healthcare would eliminate the VA. Vets could go to any doctor or hospital. Too bad they get better care at the VA.But it would be more convenient. It is not a bad idea.

Guaranteed jobs is on no platforms.

You have a right to all the healthcare you want as long as YOU pay for it. You don't have a right to anything then demand someone else fund it because you refuse to do so.

If you cared as much as you claimed about those without healthcare getting it, you'd fund the premiums yourself for them. What you support is seeing who the government can force to fund it then taking credit as if the money came from your pocket.

 

[Micawber]

Liberal democrats want to buy people off with someone else's money, not actually fix the causes of problems.

Uh, if the problem is wealth inequality then taking money from the haves and giving it to the have nots, say whatever you will about that, definitely fixes the cause of that problem. LOL

What you are saying is that wealth inequality is a symptom of other causes. I agree. I think the cause is mostly corruption, inheritance and human nature.
Don't tell me that the poor ghetto kid has the same chance as Biffy the blonde kid who drives that 2018 bumblebee camaro to high school daddy bought him.

 

[The Derp]

There is nothing "fringe" about legalizing pot, single payer, or guaranteed jobs. These are mainstream ideas in other countries.

 

[The Derp]

You have a right to all the healthcare you want as long as YOU pay for it. You don't have a right to anything then demand someone else fund it because you refuse to do so.

When you pay an insurance premium, that premium is used to fund other people's health care in addition to your own. It's the entire concept of health insurance. Yeesh.

If you cared as much as you claimed about those without healthcare getting it, you'd fund the premiums yourself for them. What you support is seeing who the government can force to fund it then taking credit as if the money came from your pocket.

You don't seem to even know what health insurance actually is.

 

[The Derp]

You can't eradicate poverty by redistributing wealth.

Yes you can. Literally, by definition you can. Redistributing wealth would eradicate poverty.

That's been proven by the fact $22 trillion has been wasted on a war on poverty designed to do that yet poverty at a level equal to or greater than before it started still exists.

The "War on Poverty" was working just fine through the 1970's, and then scared by its success, you Conservatives starting cutting those programs since the 80's, then point to the programs you defunded that are now not working as proof the programs don't work. They do work, you just sabotage them because you don't want to admit you're wrong. So you put people in bad positions for the sake of your own shitty ego.

Get over yourself.

 

[anatta]

George McGovern had a guaranteed income proposal..it did not fare well.

https://shift.newco.co/when-basic-income-was-almost-an-american-reality-e939540c9b15
As an alternative, Senator (and future Democratic presidential challenger) George McGovern proposed a child allowance, which he called a “Human Security Plan” (HSP), on January 20, 1970 in a speech in New York City. McGovern’s HSP would have provided at least $50 per month ($310 in 2016) for every child in the nation. This entitlement would be paid for by eliminating the dependent tax exemptions, which today are worth up to $4,000 per child in reduced taxable income. McGovern’s plan also included guaranteed employment, including government-provided public service employment of last resort if no private sector jobs were available.

 

[Irish]

Guaranteed job. Like the problem is welfare ppl want to work

Their policies are helping drug dealers too. Just watched Drugs, on Netflix. One of the dealers said the Freddy Grey riots were the best thing to happen for dealers.

So blm and their allies are helping drug pushers, and further increasing crime in urban areas! WAY TO GO!

 

[Truth Detector]

I am rooting for the new way leftist Marxism of the Democratic Party of the Jackass. I am hoping that they lean even further left in their desperate desire to promote an agenda intended to destroy America and all that has made it great.

Hillary had to BUY the DNC and cheat Bernie Sanders who looked like he was headed for the nomination except for the corrupt Super Delegates that through their lot in with Hitlery.

I can't wait to see this new improved Marxist Leftist platform.

This is the FACE of the Democratic Party of the Jackass, it's unlikely a majority of Americans like it:

 

[Truth Detector]

Liberal democrats want to buy people off with someone else's money, not actually fix the causes of problems.

 

[Truth Detector]

Healthcare is a right. if we have a universal healthcare it would be cheaper. Most of us should know that we are being looted by the medical system and insurance companies. But they are huge corporations that can afford lobbying and huge donations to politicians. Healthcare is the exemplar of what has gone wrong in America. Universal healthcare would eliminate the VA. Vets could go to any doctor or hospital. Too bad they get better care at the VA.But it would be more convenient. It is not a bad idea.

Guaranteed jobs is on no platforms.

Marxist Moron thinks Government controlled healthcare is cheaper and better. Yes, liberals really are that fucking dumb.

 

[Truth Detector]

There is nothing "fringe" about legalizing pot, single payer, or guaranteed jobs. These are mainstream ideas in other countries.

Marxist Moron thinks the Democratic Party of the Jackass is winning.

I do hope they run on these platforms. Love that guaranteed jobs one; don't forget the guaranteed income part too!

 

[Truth Detector]

Yes you can. Literally, by definition you can. Redistributing wealth would eradicate poverty.

Marxist moron wants the Government to control all property. Yes, liberals really are THAT fucking dumb.

After all, look how well it has worked for Cuba and Venezuela.

 

[Irish Exit]

Uh, if the problem is wealth inequality then taking money from the haves and giving it to the have nots, say whatever you will about that, definitely fixes the cause of that problem. LOL

What you are saying is that wealth inequality is a symptom of other causes. I agree. I think the cause is mostly corruption, inheritance and human nature.
Don't tell me that the poor ghetto kid has the same chance as Biffy the blonde kid who drives that 2018 bumblebee camaro to high school daddy bought him.

Taking and giving doesn't address why poverty is so sticky. It treats the symptom. It doesn't cure the problem.

 

[Micawber]

Or even had a job. White trash welfare collecting CA puke.

So bitter. So angry. So owned.

 

[Micawber]

If you look at the science, it's pretty clear that there's no justification for marijuana to be a Schedule I drug, or for it to be illegal at all.
Automation is going to destroy most jobs, while creating almost none, so a basic income is going to be a necessity at some point. Single-payer health insurance is also a no-brainer. We spend more on health care per capita than almost any other nation, and get less for it.

Do any of those countries that have better outcomes, mortality etc also have a private, insurance, or hybrid system of healthcare?

 

[CFM]

When you pay an insurance premium, that premium is used to fund other people's health care in addition to your own. It's the entire concept of health insurance. Yeesh.





You don't seem to even know what health insurance actually is.

The other people in my insurance group are also paying premiums. They aren't in it unless they are. What you support are those not paying a dime getting something.

I know what socialism is and it's what you support.