Lib General calls for peace in War on Women!

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Prominent Liberal Field General, Hilary Rosen, is now calling for peace in the War on Women, following a monumental tactical battlefield error by insulting virtually every stay-at-home mom in America. Gen Rosen lobbed the salvo on Anderson Cooper 360 yesterday, and sent the White House into full damage control mode. The Administration spokes-dummy said this morning, Ms. Rosen is not 'closely affiliated' with the president's re-election campaign, however FOI records show Ms. Rosen has had 35 official visits to the White House, in contrast, General Petreus has had 9 such visits.

Here's Gen. Rosen committing the egregious tactical error:

Less than 24 hours later, Rosen responds by issuing the following statement:

"I apologize to Ann Romney and anyone else who was offended. Let's declare peace in this phony war and go back to focus on the substance."

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So now, the Liberals want to call for peace in the War on Women, and return to talking about substance. Well, that's great, that's what the Republicans have wanted all along, they never declared the war to begin with. In fact, the term "War on Women" was introduced by liberals, it is used in campaign materials from virtually every liberal currently running for re-election. It is refreshing that Gen. Rosen now admits the war was phony, but we need to keep in mind who began the mythical war. We also need to remember, when you declare a war, even a mythical one, there is automatically another side, and peace will depend largely on how receptive the other side is to such a declaration. For instance, what does 'peace' look like in this mythical war? Does Gen. Rosen mean we should dismiss her remarks, and pretend we have declared peace, until liberals come up with yet another way to exploit the narrative? Or is she sincere, that liberals need to stop promoting the mythical phony war? Will stay-at-home moms be so offended by Rosen's remarks they retaliate by voting Republican? If so, this could be the worst tactical military error by liberals since leaving Saigon.

 

[Onceler]

Are you promising more backlash?

I love it when you promise backlash.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Are you promising more backlash?

I love it when you promise backlash.

Backlash would require a lashing, and there was none. Rosen attempted to lash, but was bitch slapped instead, and the White House has been in full damage control mode ever since. General Rosen was last seen being hurled under a bus. She'll probably be considered a 'casualty in battle' but the important thing is, this seems to have ended the mythical War on Women. ...I, for one, am happy for peace!

 

[gui1tars]

The intangibles are set up perfectly. Women will continue their war on those that refuse to understand the problems women face in this country. Especially the problems of working women with children. Anything the rightwingers do to combat this will only reflect more poorly on themselves as empathetic and as truth tellers.

 

[Rune]

Another Dix fantasy thread.

 

[gui1tars]

Another Dix fantasy thread.

dicklicker will simply look at those words with a very puzzled look on his face, rune.

 

[Jarod]

I would like to know how many maids and nanny's the Romneys had assisting Ann Romney.

 

[Onceler]

I would like to know how many maids and nanny's the Romneys had assisting Ann Romney.

I don't care. They're rich...why wouldn't they have nannies?

If people have money, I absolutely encourage the idea of one parent staying home while the kids are growing up. If more households could do that, we'd be a lot better off, and it's too bad that more can't.

 

[Phantasmal]

I don't care. They're rich...why wouldn't they have nannies?

If people have money, I absolutely encourage the idea of one parent staying home while the kids are growing up. If more households could do that, we'd be a lot better off, and it's too bad that more can't.

Why do you believe they would be better off? Some children receive better care in daycare then they would at home because some parents just can't parent. Staying home with children isn't the ideal situation for some parents and there are some very loving, nurturing daycare people. I think it all depends on the individuals. I know some women who stated they could never stay at home with their children and were thankful for their children's daycare provider.

 

[Onceler]

Why do you believe they would be better off? Some children receive better care in daycare then they would at home because some parents just can't parent. Staying home with children isn't the ideal situation for some parents and there are some very loving, nurturing daycare people. I think it all depends on the individuals. I know some women who stated they could never stay at home with their children and were thankful for their children's daycare provider.

Honestly, it's just an intuitive thing more than anything. Your post prompted me to do some googling, though, and the results are mixed - there is some evidence that it's better to have a parent home, some that it doesn't matter, and some that it actually helps to go to daycare instead.

 

[Phantasmal]

Honestly, it's just an intuitive thing more than anything. Your post prompted me to do some googling, though, and the results are mixed - there is some evidence that it's better to have a parent home, some that it doesn't matter, and some that it actually helps to go to daycare instead.

It is a very individual thing. Thanks

 

[Rune]

I would like to know how many maids and nanny's the Romneys had assisting Ann Romney.

I would like to know how many of them had green cards. We already know some of his gardeners didn't.

 

[cawacko]

I don't care. They're rich...why wouldn't they have nannies?

If people have money, I absolutely encourage the idea of one parent staying home while the kids are growing up. If more households could do that, we'd be a lot better off, and it's too bad that more can't.

Onceler, my gf is a Director of a pre-school in Marin County (the county just north of SF, on the other side of the Golden Gate Bridge for those who may be unfamiliar). It is $15k/yr to go there (the gf says other private pre-schools in the area cost $30k). She said/believes exactly what you do. She says there are lots of kids at her school whose parents both work full time (not cheap to live in Marin County, drive one or two nice cars and pay $15k for you kid to go pre-school) so these 2, 3 and 4 year olds often spend 40 hours a week at school. The gf says she can tell the difference in kids who don't get as much attention at home vs. those who do and she agrees with you completely.

There will always be individual exceptions but overall I think it is MUCH better for the kid if it had one parent staying home with it while growing up or at least while very young(can be the man or the woman doesn't matter).

 

[Phantasmal]

Onceler, my gf is a Director of a pre-school in Marin County (the county just north of SF, on the other side of the Golden Gate Bridge for those who may be unfamiliar). It is $15k/yr to go there (the gf says other private pre-schools in the area cost $30k). She said/believes exactly what you do. She says there are lots of kids at her school whose parents both work full time (not cheap to live in Marin County, drive one or two nice cars and pay $15k for you kid to go pre-school) so these 2, 3 and 4 year olds often spend 40 hours a week at school. The gf says she can tell the difference in kids who don't get as much attention at home vs. those who do and she agrees with you completely.

There will always be individual exceptions but overall I think it is MUCH better for the kid if it had one parent staying home with it while growing up or at least while very young(can be the man or the woman doesn't matter).

So, every stay at home mom/dad will give her child the time and attention they need, absolutely no abuse? It would be a perfect world if they did!

 

[cawacko]

So, every stay at home mom will give her child the time and attention they need, absolutely no abuse? It would be a perfect world if they did!

Notice I didn't say it had to be a mom. I said one parent. And notice I said there will always be individual exceptions. But yeah, on the whole having a parent stay home with the kid would be a good thing.

 

[Phantasmal]

So, every stay at home mom/dad will give her child the time and attention they need, absolutely no abuse? It would be a perfect world if they did!

Your statement says she can tell which parents spend time with their children, which indicates that even if parents did stay home with their children, some would still be neglected.

 

[Rune]

Clearly Cawacko has personal experience to back up his stand. Oh, he doesn't?

 

[Phantasmal]

Notice I didn't say it had to be a mom. I said one parent. And notice I said there will always be individual exceptions. But yeah, on the whole having a parent stay home with the kid would be a good thing.

I am saying just because they stay at home does not mean the child will receive the attention, your girlfriend says she can tell which patents give their children attention and which don't, that is the key, the time spent on the child, not the staying home aspect. And I corrected my statement, but the discussion was stay at home mom's. it doesn't make a difference which parent stays at home, the difference is the quality of time, not quantity.

 

[Phantasmal]

Notice I didn't say it had to be a mom. I said one parent. And notice I said there will always be individual exceptions. But yeah, on the whole having a parent stay home with the kid would be a good thing.

I say it depends on the situation at the home. I lived down the street from a stay at home parent who locked their children out of the house all day, even during subzero temperatures, I allowed the children in to my home so they didn't freeze and spoke to the other partent about this behavior and informed them I would call child protective services if it happened again. The couple divorced shortly afterwards.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

The intangibles are set up perfectly. Women will continue their war on those that refuse to understand the problems women face in this country. Especially the problems of working women with children. Anything the rightwingers do to combat this will only reflect more poorly on themselves as empathetic and as truth tellers.

That's the thing, Obama and the Lib Army had the women's vote wrapped up, until bonehead Rosen made her comments. Now all this platitude shit you're spewing means absolutely nothing. Stay at home moms were offended, and they responded swiftly, prompting all kinds of apologies, explanations, and distancing by Team Obama from the comments. If it wasn't that big of a deal, there wouldn't have been this reaction.

The right doesn't have to combat anything, they didn't start the War on Women, that was instigated by Liberals. Now that the war has turned on Liberals, they want no part of it (any surprise there?) Rosen's own words: "Let's declare peace in this phony war and go back to focus on the substance." So you should take her advice, gayturdman, and shut the fuck up! The war is over, peace has been declared!