Lets move on to other mystries....

Ahhhh....finally.....the lame attempt to change the debate......just hold up the white flag like a man, even if you are a little twerp fairy.....
GAME OVER....YOU'VE BEEN PWNED and that was as clear an admission as you can give....you're excused.
 
bravo said:
Ahhhh....finally.....the lame attempt to change the debate......just hold up the white flag like a man, even if you are a little twerp fairy.....
GAME OVER....YOU'VE BEEN PWNED and that was as clear an admission as you can give....
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Awwwww....poor widdle bwavo is cwying now.

Man, you have the intellectual depth of a small birdbath. The attempt to make birtherism a "Dem" movement after you got egg all over your face this past week is pathetic; I can sympathize with the embarassment you must feel, though I have never experienced it myself...
 
Damocles said:
Trump actually handled it well, he didn't appear angry, smiled, and appeared exactly as anybody might appear when they are being made fun of in a place they have no podium to answer. Not bad. Now we'll see if he is able to resurrect himself after his mess with the grades question. I don't think he will.
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Ohh, he did not handle it well... he is 1) pissed, and 2) delusional. He was not mentioned by name and he claims he was the but of all the jokes. drudgereport.com
 
Jarod said:
Ohh, he did not handle it well... he is 1) pissed, and 2) delusional. He was not mentioned by name and he claims he was the but of all the jokes. drudgereport.com
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So, when Obama mentioned "The Donald" he wasn't talking about Donald?
 
Damocles said:
So, when Obama mentioned "The Donald" he wasn't talking about Donald?
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oh if he did that I missed it. It does not change my overall point.....


AND BTW, YOUR FRONTRUNNER SAYS HE IS IN! I suspect Obama is trying to elevate Trump as much as possable!
 
Trump kinda looked just like Clinton did when Imus called Cliinton a fuckin' weasel at one of those Press club bashes.....:lol:
 
Jarod said:
Looks like you are WRONG about who started it, but it matters not to me. What matters to me is what party kept it an issue even after the President released his short form Birth Cert. The party that brought it to main streem, even after McCain and Clinton both determined that there was nothing to it... The party that pushed it even with the truth was very evident.

Namely, the party that Donald Trump is currently the front runner for the nomination of!
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huh? it LOOKS like i'm wrong? please jarod...surely you can do better...

and no one disputes that the right took the issue to insane heights....you and your fellow libs are just butt hurt that it started from the left. why is that?
 
Onceler said:
What an absurd deflection. The right took it & made it a raison d'etre - they took it to the next level, and then beyond. I know how embarassed you guys are now, but the deflections are silly...
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lulz....pointing out facts is a deflection. why are you so ashamed the birther issue started from the left?

no one is saying the right did not take it to insane heights...but factually informing ignorant lefties that the right didn't start it, is not a deflection. it is called truth. something you don't like. hence the ridiculous post.
 
christiefan915 said:
Well, we have some problems here. First, P.U.M.A. wasn't even started until after Hillary conceded in June 2008 so how could they have sent around an email during her campaign?

The author writes: In the early summer of '08, message boards on sites like PUMAParty.com began lighting up with the ultimate reversal-of-fortune fantasy—that their party's nomination could be overturned on constitutional grounds. "Obama May Be Illegal to Be Elected President!" read one representative e-mail: "This came from a USNA [U.S. Naval Academy] alumnus. It'll be interesting to see how the media handle this...WRITE TO YOUR LOCAL newspaper editors etc. Keep this out there everyday possible. Also write to the DNC too!"

So who is this naval academy alumnus and where's a copy of the email he supposedly wrote?

Then the author writes: "After Clinton's concession, Starr turned her attention to Obama. "I determined that I was going to start digging up every bit of dirt that I could find on him," she told me after I hunted her down in late 2009, "and that hopefully that I would find something against him that would convince the Democratic Party to dump him and make Hillary the nominee."

Note she says "after the concession", not "during the campaign."

Then she says "In the first week of August 2008, as the Democrats were getting ready for their convention in Denver, Starr called Philadelphia attorney Philip Berg and offered a challenge. Berg recalled the conversation for me: "She called me up and said, 'Have you heard about Obama not being national born?' I said, 'Yes.' She said, 'Well, now it's for real, and you're the only attorney in the country with brass balls enough to sue Obama.'" On August 21, 2008, Berg filed the first Birther lawsuit, requesting an injunction to stop the Democratic Convention from going forward and alleging that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.

By their own words, they didn't get fired up until August 2008, yet the birther business was going on for months before that.

I think the author is mistaken in saying the movement began with Hillary supporters, when his contact Linda Starr says herself she only started working on BC business in the summer of 2008. Clearly his contention is that the first lawsuit was the start of the movement, but that's just not true.
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your facts are wrong as usual....and you received an education from a lefty. accept it and move on. your point about starting after does not take away from his correct findings that the movement started on the left. you desperately want to pretend otherwise....even in the face of a well researched lefty.

head in sand syndrome is strong with you.
 
Onceler said:
Awwwww....poor widdle bwavo is cwying now.

Man, you have the intellectual depth of a small birdbath. The attempt to make birtherism a "Dem" movement after you got egg all over your face this past week is pathetic; I can sympathize with the embarassment you must feel, though I have never experienced it myself...
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Don't take it so personal....no need to lie about what I said.....and I didn't say birtherism was "Dem" movement.....I did say, Birtherism was started by a Dem...a Dem supporter of Hilliary Clinton....and facts bear me out....the truth is undeniable, its history, the facts are widely available on the internet.......and its not even a challenge to pwn you in every debate .... its like slapping the shit out a child in a wheelchair.....
 
bravo said:
The 'summer' is JUNE.....

So,....are you now changing you story to claim Linda Starr is now the "Mother of the Birthers"...????

Its been said she "invented" the Birther story in June of 2008....and admits to doing research on it.....(obviously in the months PRECEDING JUNE, 2008....)

I already told you there was talk of the Birth certificate problem in early 2008...BY CLINTON SUPPORTERS.

You won't find definitive information on the net these days, the clean up is long over and the internet is wiped clean of anything that would link Hillary and the Birthers....
the house cleaning was done before Berg filed suit....Hillarys cover was assured.....

My memory tells me that Hillary's concession in June and talk of bc problems were within days of each other.....I think the bc rumors preceded Hillarys concession....
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Keep telling yourself it was all about Hillary. The facts speak for themselves.

January 2008

During the Democratic candidates' debate on 15 January 2008, Senator Obama directly refuted the three primary rumors about him that are circulating via e-mail: that he is a Muslim, that he was sworn in to Congress on the Quran, and that he refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp


April 2008

Original email rumor was that Obama was a Muslim. A chain letter from American missionaries in Kenya did the trick: It claimed that Obama's real middle name was "Mohammed." Loren Davis, whose wife Celeste wrote the e-mail, says he can't substantiate the claim. "That was what we heard there (in Kenya)," Davis said in an interview with PolitiFact. He says they've lived and worked in Kenya for the past 12 years and this was a personal letter "never intended to be forwarded or sent out to the Web."

We tried to obtain a copy of Obama's birth certificate, but his campaign would not release it and the state of Hawaii does not make such records public. (UPDATE: On June 12, 2008, the Obama campaign e-mailed to PolitiFact a copy of the senator's birth certificate. It confirms our findings. See it for yourself here.)

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...email/no-muhammed-or-mohammed-in-obamas-name/

June 2008

The first mainstream reporter to pick up on that sentence [i.e., obtaining a copy of the BC] was [conservative blogger] National Review's Jim Geraghty. "Obama could debunk some rumors by releasing his birth certificate," he wrote, on June 9, 2008.

http://www.nationalreview.com/campa...k-some-rumors-releasing-his-birth-certificate

June 10

World Net Daily questions birth certificate.

ELECTION 2008 World Net Daily
Is Obama's candidacy constitutional?
Secrecy over birth certificate, demand for 'natural-born' citizenship cited
Posted: June 10, 2008
9:44 pm Eastern

Read more: Is Obama's candidacy constitutional? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=66787#ixzz1LA2Axq7D


June 12, 2008

Obama campaign released a certificate of live birth on its website, and to select media outlets. Within minutes, it was accessible to anyone who had become curious about the rumors.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...email/no-muhammed-or-mohammed-in-obamas-name/

The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
 
so if you still believe that Obama is not an American citizen does that make you an 'afterbirther'?
 
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