billy the 1993 ombra was passed without one single republican vote.
Gore the VP had to use his vote in congress to pass it against HUGE republican ooposition.
The democrats were the fiscal party NOT the republicans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993
I was old enough to be and adult and watch this whole thing take place.
The second it passed I turned to my husband and said "Watch the republicans try to take credit for this one"
and I was dead right.
I have seen righties try to claim it repetedly.
why does the right lie so much?
You are truly clueless.
and you have no facts to bring to bare unlike me
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Agreed....but let us remember that the majority of the wealthy INHERITED it...aka the "lucky sperm club".
I have no problem with "winners and losers" so long as the "losers" are not punished by the "winners" or are denied alternative means to "win" or just basically live a decent life.
Do you have any links to show evidence that the majority of wealthy people inherited it?
Also, if I work hard and earn great wealth so I can provide for my family, are my children and grandchildren any less for that?
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Unfortunately in the real world, that is not the case. Nepotism, favors, "legacy" placements have long been the norm in our society.
As I stated, it's not so much the competition but what the "winners" overall do afterward in their treatment of others that is the problem.
So the competition itself is not a problem. The problem is the way we treat each other? Wow, where have I heard that before?
Yes they are. If they weren't raised by wolves than they're going to be shitty people.
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Agreed....but let us remember that the majority of the wealthy INHERITED it...aka the "lucky sperm club".
I have no problem with "winners and losers" so long as the "losers" are not punished by the "winners" or are denied alternative means to "win" or just basically live a decent life.
You got a link to that bolded?
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But it has been PROVEN that standardized test are NOT the be all, end all to determine a persons worth or potential in society for the rest of their lives. Remember, Einstein FAILED a standardized test at one point.
I agree with the premise, but think you may have overstated? Got a link to bolded?
More info is needed, but this article disagrees with the point TaiChi made:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneybu...ividuals-earned-not-inherited-their-wealth-2/
"Recently, PNC Wealth Management conducted a survey of people with more than $500,000 free to invest as they like, a fair definition of “wealthy,” and possibly “millionaire” once you begin including home equity and other assets. Only 6% of those surveyed earned their money from inheritance alone. 69% earned their wealth mostly by trading time and effort for money, or by “working.”"
Is 1/3 considered "most"?
http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0211/how-the-rich-got-that-way.aspx
"Inheritance is clearly one of the proven pathways to getting rich. About one-third of the 50 richest Americans can tie their wealth directly to being the fortunate son or daughter of wealthy parents."
This last link sums it up best:
http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2008/01/14/the-decline-of-inherited-money/
"1. According to a study of Federal Reserve data conducted by NYU professor Edward Wolff, for the nation’s richest 1%, inherited wealth accounted for only 9% of their net worth in 2001, down from 23% in 1989. (The 2001 number was the latest available.)
2. According to a study by Prince & Associates, less than 10% of today’s multi-millionaires cited “inheritance” as their source of wealth.
3. A study by Spectrem Group found that among today’s millionaires, inherited wealth accounted for just 2% of their total sources of wealth.
Each of these stats measures slightly different things, yet they all come to the same basic conclusion: Inheritance is not the main driver of today’s wealth. The reason we’ve had a doubling in the number of millionaires and billionaires over the past decade (even adjusted for inflation) is that more of the non-wealthy have become wealthy.
So it’s not just that the same old rich folks are getting richer. The more-important shift is that the rich are getting more numerous."
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But it has been PROVEN that standardized test are NOT the be all, end all to determine a persons worth or potential in society for the rest of their lives. Remember, Einstein FAILED a standardized test at one point.
Sure. Its not the most precise ever. Is it cost efficient? Do you have another way to provide educational standards and nationalized testing? If we took away the SAT/ACT, for instance, what would replace it?
This guy/girl is a moderator, so I can't put him on my ignore list....so we'll have to put up with his moronic attempts at sarcasm here. No further response or acknowledgement is the best way to ignore him.