Less than 50K separate Biden/Trump in PA, Fraud does not need to be "widespread"

These links are live updated so totals may change over time...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2020/state/pa/president/

Currently per RCP (link above), less than 50K votes separate the two candidates in PA, it would not take "widespread" or "systemic" fraud to overturn an election result with so few votes separating the candidates.

Current vote separation is: 49,153

And in GA the difference is much smaller: 12,651 votes separating the candidates.
Link: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2020/state/ga/president/

Arizona is still counting, and the vote difference there is: 14,733 as I type this post.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2020/state/az/president/

This idea that fraud or irregularities would have to be "widespread" when so few votes separate the two is simply untrue and an attempt to disregard evidence. It would not take "widespread" fraud or irregularities so large to be called "widespread" to change the result.

Indeed, it need not be "widespread"; it need only be targeted, as it was in this case... It was targeted in Dem controlled large metro areas of key "swing States"...

Notice how Dems have shifted the goalposts from "there is no fraud" to "there is no widespread fraud"?? Notice how they claimed that there were election integrity issues in 2016 but now suddenly claim that such issues are not possible in 2020? Notice how they were okay with challenging irregularities in the past, but are now suddenly not okay with it?
 
Indeed, it need not be "widespread"; it need only be targeted, as it was in this case... It was targeted in Dem controlled large metro areas of key "swing States"...

Notice how Dems have shifted the goalposts from "there is no fraud" to "there is no widespread fraud"?? Notice how they claimed that there were election integrity issues in 2016 but now suddenly claim that such issues are not possible in 2020? Notice how they were okay with challenging irregularities in the past, but are now suddenly not okay with it?

No one ever said "there is no fraud."

The claim has always been that there is no coordinated, widespread fraud. In studies they have done, of course they have found individual irregularities - we're talking about 150 million votes. But there is nothing coordinated or widespread.

No story has changed.
 
You do realize Trump beat Hillary with less than 17,000 votes in 3 Mid-Western battleground states- DON'T YOU?

That was enough- Hillary realized it and immediately conceded to Donald Trump- telling the people to get behind Donald Trump and personally Congratulated him and wished him a successful presidency!

Now what are you trying to say again?
I think her advice to Biden not to concede was because she believes it was "that mistake" that ended her attempts to become the POTUS. That Trump took the advice instead of Biden doesn't change it.

Anyway, my only point is that this would not take "widespread fraud" to change things. IMHO, when it all settles and it is certified, Biden will be the President Elect. But I will wait, and let the process complete.
 
What horseshit.

Al Gore was less than 500 votes away from Bush and they stopped the recount.

Nobody on the reptilian retard right was talking about voter fraud back then.

This whole bullshit gambit is going nowhere.
Jeb! Stole that election for his brother.
 
I think her advice to Biden not to concede was because she believes it was "that mistake" that ended her attempts to become the POTUS. That Trump took the advice instead of Biden doesn't change it.

Anyway, my only point is that this would not take "widespread fraud" to change things. IMHO, when it all settles and it is certified, Biden will be the President Elect. But I will wait, and let the process complete.


Gonna be back to "business as usual" in Washington D.C.

I cashed out bigly at that last market uptick. All that market is going to go down, and stay down.

Once it's confirmed Biden will be pres, stocks are going to tank..all of them and not recover, maybe ever.
A few will here and there.

He's going to fuck up manufacturing and food production in the US and more!

They're already talking mandatory masks and shutdowns..don't even have clearance or travel yet.

Get ready for $4 gas and the economy slows to a crawl. Don't worry, Mexicans will take your jobs.

They're already lining up.
 
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Gonna be back to "business as usual" in Washington D.C.

Yup. Historically it happens where things ebb and flow in politics, we have to hope that things turn out right in the end. Currently there are a bunch of people who pretended that they don't trust "the man" who want to make sure that "the man" is running things rather than somebody who wasn't part of that same structure. Most of the insults from opposition aimed at Trump are because he doesn't act like a normal politician. They really, really wanted things to get back to "normal".

Thankfully the government will be split. The executive has a ton of stuff they can do without the legislature, but they are not king and without both houses he'll be limited.
 
Yup. Historically it happens where things ebb and flow in politics, we have to hope that things turn out right in the end. Currently there are a bunch of people who pretended that they don't trust "the man" who want to make sure that "the man" is running things rather than somebody who wasn't part of that same structure. Most of the insults from opposition aimed at Trump are because he doesn't act like a normal politician. They really, really wanted things to get back to "normal".

Thankfully the government will be split. The executive has a ton of stuff they can do without the legislature, but they are not king and without both houses he'll be limited.

If fraud happened and it stands, there will never be another fair election in America ever again.

Joe can muck quite a bit up with a phone and a pen.

Many things needed to codified into law that were merely EOs under Trump.

The Congress power simply wasn't there.

Lobbying/bribery will be making a yuge comeback.

In other news, speaking of EOs, Desantis done said we can feel free to open fire on rioters in Flawda heanh. :D
 
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If fraud happened and it stands, there will never be another fair election in America ever again.

Joe can muck quite a bit up with a phone and a pen.

Many things needed to codified into law that were merely EOs under Trump.

The Congress power simply wasn't there.

Lobbying/bribery will be making a yuge comeback.

All of those things may be true, but it changes not one iota of what I stated previously.
 
In no election in the US has fraud ever been uncovered that consisted of 10,000 ballots or more.

In the North Carolina congressional election that was redone, the margin was only 904 votes but the payment by the GOP to collect votes in violation of the law never decided how many ballots were affected. The election results show that only 4,027 mail in ballots voted for the GOP candidate so even if all those ballots were illegal, which is unlikely, it still didn't rise to 10,000. Ballot harvesters may have actually collected a few hundred and this fraud was discovered.

To get to 10,000 ballots the fraud would have to be widespread and somehow hidden. Highly unlikely.
 
All of those things may be true, but it changes not one iota of what I stated previously.

Unfortunately so.
It's good that Biden will be hamstrung by Congress, bad that he will have EO power.

The 1st thing he'll do will probably be get rid of lobbying ban that Trump EO'd.
 
If you thought the tail end of Bush years was bad, hold onto your ass, because it's about to get rough.

Get ready for high gas/food/electric prices and food shortages.

I do believe this will be the 7 years of famine spoken of in The Bible.

Entirely preventable, but they're going to do it anyway.

They don't believe in God, but are damn sure going to make biblical predictions reality.

I wish I was born 40 years earlier.

Here we go, whee!
 
Bush was a Republican. Obviously, they weren't going to have engineered fraudulent votes to throw out.

Jeb was governor of the state in question. Hunter Thompson said anyone who thinks Jeb will allow his brother to lose does not know politics. Once it ended with Florida being the last state, he said it was over...move on.
 
If you thought the tail end of Bush years was bad, hold onto your ass, because it's about to get rough.

Get ready for high gas/food/electric prices and food shortages.

I do believe this will be the 7 years of famine spoken of in The Bible.

Entirely preventable, but they're going to do it anyway.

They don't believe in God, but are damn sure going to make biblical predictions reality.

I wish I was born 40 years earlier.

Here we go, whee!

Most of this is like a mantra when a Democrat is elected to the Presidency.

But the reality is that we either get unprecedented prosperity (Clinton), or build the economy back from a bad crash (Obama).

Maybe we'll get both of those w/ Biden.
 
Most of this is like a mantra when a Democrat is elected to the Presidency.

But the reality is that we either get unprecedented prosperity (Clinton), or build the economy back from a bad crash (Obama).

Maybe we'll get both of those w/ Biden.

Maybe in 1 hand and poo in the other. Get ready to starve.
Build you some food storage NOW.

What you're going to get with Biden is sold down the fucking river.

Moreso younger generations than you.

Trump just wanted to get America back to being the land of opportunity.

That's out now, I guess. Forever.

I had a taste of it when I was young, so I know. Sad that future generations will never get that taste like I did. They're getting robbed!

They're getting robbed and screaming for it to happen.

Here we go...whee!
 
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Biden's lead in PA is now larger than 50,000

@ 6pm EST November 11:

Biden 3,381,173 votes

Trump 3,329,726

And Biden's lead is going to grow as the remaining votes are counted.
 
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