Less Republicans believe in Evolution today than in 2009

Hasa Diga Eebowai said:
You are lying again by using fuzzy language to broaden the definition of what is meant by intelligent design.
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look....what I said was obviously true.....you're wasting your time and mine calling me a liar....if your ready to acknowledge that, send up a smoke signal.....if not, fuck off.......
 
Damocles said:
Whether it is rejected as guided or unguided doesn't change what I said of the three basic types of ID. Some who believe in ID believe that God understood that if he began life "now" that it would end with the result that he wanted. Basically he set into motion the "natural" evolution that you say they "reject". Nor does it take into account the last of the three main types of ID listed in my post. You didn't read, Dung, you assumed and took off on a misrepresented and disingenuous tangent.
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Nope. That's not Intelligent Design. Again, you are confusing it with theistic evolution. Intelligent Design is the idea that the complexity and diversity of life cannot be explained by evolution alone and can only be explained through reference to an intelligent designer. Some ID proponents leave room for evolution guided only by natural selection but still hold onto the notion that it is insufficient to explain certain complex traits/features.

http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/2012/05/18/theistic-evolution-is-not-a-fo/
 
PostmodernProphet said:
???....are there people who believe in Creation who do not believe the same things as Ham?........for you to insist that what he believes is true about all who believe in Creation is the obvious and refutable lie.......
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I never suggested that, liar. You suggested that no one believes what Ham and his many supporters believe by claiming that it was just a "liberally distorted tradition."
 
PostmodernProphet said:
look....what I said was obviously true.....you're wasting your time and mine calling me a liar....if your ready to acknowledge that, send up a smoke signal.....if not, fuck off.......
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I do believe you are lying. You have repeatedly shown a willful desire to distort and misrepresent as you have already done in this thread pretending that no one believes what Ham and his supporters clearly do believe. Why don't you go ahead and fuck off, liar.
 
1966stang said:
The number of thinking people who believe in creationism is vanishingly small. The debate was settled a long time ago from a scientific standpoint.
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Oh my god, someone who still uses the old tired....."thinking people"....which automatically makes you a deranged cockroach propaganda whore.
 
Hasa Diga Eebowai said:
I never suggested that, liar. You suggested that no one believes what Ham and his many supporters believe by claiming that it was just a "liberally distorted tradition."
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again you call me a liar simply because you are ignorant of what we are discussing....I didn't say no one believes what Ham and his supporters believe.....obviously Ham and his supporters believe it.......however, Intelligent Design is simply the belief that there is an intelligent entity that designed all of creation.....that much ought to be obvious to anyone discussing this issue.....how he brought that design into fruition can vary from saying "Let there be" six times all the way to simply creating an entity capable of evolution and pointing it in various directions.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
again you call me a liar simply because you are ignorant of what we are discussing....I didn't say no one believes what Ham and his supporters believe.....obviously Ham and his supporters believe it.......however, Intelligent Design is simply the belief that there is an intelligent entity that designed all of creation.....that much ought to be obvious to anyone discussing this issue.....how he brought that design into fruition can vary from saying "Let there be" six times all the way to simply creating an entity capable of evolution and pointing it in various directions.....
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You did imply no one believes that.

PostmodernProphet said:
that would be creationism in the liberally distorted tradition.......
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It is just what Jarod said it was. It's not a "liberally distorted tradition."

Intelligent Design is not simply the belief that God created everything. That does not differ at all from creationism or theistic evolution.

The only one doing any distortion is you.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
perhaps not exclusively, but I think there is a great deal of overlap between those stupid enough to think all life evolved from a single celled organism and those stupid enough to be liberals......
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Simply calling something stupid does not add any creditability to your argument. That's the main thing I wish Conservatives on this board would learn.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I didn't "imply" anything....though in truth, there are very few young earthers.....
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Yes you did. You flatly stated that...

PostmodernProphet said:
that [God Created Adam in human form about 6000 years ago] would be creationism in the liberally distorted tradition.......
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It's not the creationism in the liberally distorted tradition. It is what Christian doctrine promoted for the majority of its existence and what is still held to by a considerable number of people (see the Gallup poll). You are a liar.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I don't think its out of line to consider them more in the category of random shit happening than in the category of an intelligent designer.....
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Believing that evolution occurred does not preclude one or the other. Its an independent issue. An intelligent designer could have set evolution in motion, or it could simply be random. Either does not mean that evolution did not occur.
 
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