Leftist NBC Poll: Dems more disliked than Trump, ICE

Dutch Uncle said:
Link? If you don't have one, I understand.
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quantusinsights.org

The Polling Crisis: Accuracy, Bias, and Reform

Executive Summary
quantusinsights.org quantusinsights.org

www.scientificamerican.com

Why Election Polling Has Become Less Reliable

Election polls are increasingly vulnerable to huge mistakes
www.scientificamerican.com www.scientificamerican.com

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Election Polls Are Increasingly Useless. Can We Get Rid of Them?

Presidential election polls are increasingly inaccurate, make the media look bad and stress everybody out. So do we really need hundreds of them before Election Day?
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com

There you go. You won't grasp any of it, but there you go anyway.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
quantusinsights.org

The Polling Crisis: Accuracy, Bias, and Reform

Executive Summary
quantusinsights.org quantusinsights.org

www.scientificamerican.com

Why Election Polling Has Become Less Reliable

Election polls are increasingly vulnerable to huge mistakes
www.scientificamerican.com www.scientificamerican.com

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Election Polls Are Increasingly Useless. Can We Get Rid of Them?

Presidential election polls are increasingly inaccurate, make the media look bad and stress everybody out. So do we really need hundreds of them before Election Day?
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com

There you go. You won't grasp any of it, but there you go anyway.
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Those are election polls but the SA link does accurately point out a problem in the modern age:
Today technological changes—including caller ID, the rise of texting and the proliferation of spam messages—have led very few people to pick up the phone or answer unprompted text messages. Even the well-respected New York Times/Siena College poll gets around a 1 percent response rate, Bailey points out. In many ways, people who respond to polls are the odd ones out, and this self-selection can significantly bias the results in unknowable but profound ways.

“The game’s over. Once you have a 1 percent response rate, you don’t have a random sample,” Bailey says.

That said, interesting that you didn't point this out to @Libhater's OP then linked polls supporting your pro-war views.
T. A. Gardner said:
Actually, only about 1 in 2 don't like this war, and those are generally the same people who hate Trump and don't like Conservatives in general.

www.pbs.org

Polls show what Americans think about the war in Iran

Americans are divided along party lines on U.S. military action against Iran, according to polls conducted since the war began.
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org

apnews.com

What Americans think about the war in Iran, according to recent polls

Americans are divided along party lines on U.S. military action against Iran, according to polls conducted since the war began, with most polls showing opposition is higher than support.
apnews.com apnews.com

poll.qu.edu

U.S. Military Action Against Iran: Over Half Of Voters Oppose It, 74% Oppose Sending Ground Troops Into Iran, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Vast Majority Expects The Conflict To Last Months Or More | Quinnipiac University Poll

"Voters are unenthusiastic about the air attack on Iran and there is overwhelming opposition to putting American troops on Iranian soil to fight a ground war," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Tim Malloy.
poll.qu.edu poll.qu.edu

www.ipsos.com

Most Americans say President Trump has not clearly explained U.S. goals in Iran

Six-in-ten expect U.S. military involvement in Iran to go on for an extended period of time
www.ipsos.com www.ipsos.com
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T. A. Gardner said:
No. I believe polls are less accurate today than they were say 30 or 40 years ago. This is one reason why the predicted blue and red waves in mid-terms haven't been happening. The polling is dated and off.
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The predicted blue wave in the recent off year elections did, in fact, happen. As for the last two Presidential elections, Trump trailed Biden consistently in the months before the election from between 5 and 7 points and lost by a little under 5 points. He led Harris by two to three points in the last election and won by around two points. I think polling is probably better than it used to be.
 
martin said:
The predicted blue wave in the recent off year elections did, in fact, happen. As for the last two Presidential elections, Trump trailed Biden consistently in the months before the election from between 5 and 7 points and lost by a little under 5 points. He led Harris by two to three points in the last election and won by around two points. I think polling is probably better than it used to be.
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martin said:
The predicted blue wave in the recent off year elections did, in fact, happen. As for the last two Presidential elections, Trump trailed Biden consistently in the months before the election from between 5 and 7 points and lost by a little under 5 points. He led Harris by two to three points in the last election and won by around two points. I think polling is probably better than it used to be.
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The election polls for both 2016 and 2024 were within the margin of error, usually 3.5%.

The 2020 election polls showed a stronger division and correctly predicted the winner.


www.realclearpolling.com

2020 General Election: Trump vs. Biden | RealClearPolling

2020 General Election: Trump vs. Biden | RealClearPolling
www.realclearpolling.com www.realclearpolling.com

www.realclearpolling.com

2016 General Election: Trump vs. Clinton | RealClearPolling

2016 General Election: Trump vs. Clinton | RealClearPolling
www.realclearpolling.com www.realclearpolling.com
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No. I believe polls are less accurate today than they were say 30 or 40 years ago. This is one reason why the predicted blue and red waves in mid-terms haven't been happening. The polling is dated and off.


The economy is doing just fine. ICE is removing people who need to be removed and your version is nonsense. The way I see Iran is Trump--or somebody working for him--was actually kind of shrewd with this.

Trump takes Venezuela and installs a friendly government. The oil companies move back in and Venezuelan oil gets flowing.

www.reuters.com

Exclusive: Chevron, Shell closing in on first big oil production deals in Venezuela since US captured Maduro, sources say

International oil majors Chevron and Shell are closing in on the first big oil production deals with Venezuela since the U.S. capture of President Nicolas Maduro in January, five sources close to the negotiations told Reuters.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com


That puts more oil back on the market. Then Trump goes hard on Iran and starts a war with them. Iranian oil production drops. Venezuela makes up most of the difference. The oil market fluctuates some but remains more or less stable.

The only real question is Can Iran close the Strait of Hormuz? I seriously doubt they can in the long run. They might have some short term success mostly with propaganda and fear mongering. Once that wears off, shipping will largely return to normal.

We'll see. I certainly wouldn't take any site that leans into the Left's word for it any more than I'd take a site that leans into the Right that it won't. Most likely there'll be another small change in seats and if the Democrats do get control, they'll have the thinnest of margins just as the Republicans have now.

I'd also expect them to do the idiotic almost immediately. I could see them try and impeach Trump a third, maybe even a fourth, time only to fail. By the end of Trump's term, they've made impeachment into a joke that people ignore rather than the serious political action it's supposed to be.

I could see them passing bills that have zero chance of becoming law and the harder they go Left the more their popularity declines, and declines dramatically.

Republicans are stupid. The Left is fucking insane. And the Democrats are increasingly on the Left.
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That's ok. You deny the polls. I'll be waiting for a Democratic congress and Senate to convene next year.

toodles, trumptard.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Wrong! Your post was so idiotically stupid there was no reasonable reply to it other than to signify how idiotically stupid it was.
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Having a shit fit, friend?

Correct but "stupid", I guess, in keeping with Trumpers dislike of facts. The "reasonable reply" would have been to show the stated facts are wrong. You couldn't do that because the stated facts are accurate.

One other point on the accuracy of modern polls. The pollster, Nate Silver, correctly called the result in every state in Obama/Romney 2012 election.
 
LurchAddams said:
So your point is - don't believe the polls, believe YOU?

No.

The economy is tanking, ICE thugs are murdering and disappearing innocent people and trump was stupid enough to let neocon Lindsday talk him into another Mideast boondoggle.

Republicans are toast. They're only hope is to suppress the vote with at wrongly named "Save America" act. What it will do will be to SAVE people from having to vote.

Republicans continue to suck
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The polls said Hillary was ahead of Trump when he became potus #45, so how did that one turn out?
 
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