Leaked Photo Reveals 'Mass Trial' Of Immigrants In Texas

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This is American due process under trump.

"A leaked photo showing a federal courtroom packed with dozens of immigrants in orange jumpsuits undergoing a "mass trial" in Texas has shed a light on an increasingly common practice. While it is unclear who took the image, journalist Debbie Nathan, who first came across it while covering mass trials in Texas, believes it was taken in Pecos, a small town around 70 miles southwest of Odessa by someone who did not feel comfortable with the effects of the Trump administration's new "zero tolerance" policy on people caught crossing into the U.S. illegally.

Nathan told Newsweek a number of members of the legal community had told her about the photo before she found it on social media.

The journalist said that, in recent months, she has seen similar mass trials in Brownsville and El Paso and added they were some of the most upsetting things she has witnessed in her three decades of covering border and immigration issues.

"I've seen as many as 40, 41, 42 people all let in, men and women, all shackled at the waist, shackled at the feet, their hands shackled to their waist chains," Nathan said. "It's a very dehumanizing process," the journalist said. "You're just like, how could this possibly be considered American due process?"

Z4UGOP4L


https://www.newsweek.com/leaked-photo-reveals-mass-trial-immigrants-texas-957216
 
"In late April, magistrates’ courts in Brownsville suddenly turned into “zero tolerance” factories for criminalizing migrants, many of whom have no prior criminal record. Many are from murderously violent countries in Central America and have fled to the U.S. seeking asylum, and they often arrive with children in tow. It used to be rare to charge migrants seeking asylum with crimes. If they did so, they were put into detention with their children while they pursued their claims. Or they were released with supervision — along with their children. The best interests of the children were considered paramount, and those interests including keeping families together...

...the spectacle of dozens of migrants being convicted and sentenced en masse, in proceedings lasting just a few minutes and with only the most perfunctory legal representation, has shocked courthouse employees. And not just in Brownsville. Taking photographs of federal court proceedings is strictly forbidden. But in the federal courthouse in Pecos, Texas, someone apparently felt so bad about the new policies that they secretly shot a photo — obtained by The Intercept and published at the top of this page — of dozens of immigrants clogging a court in orange jumpsuits..."

https://theintercept.com/2018/05/29/zero-tolerance-border-policy-immigration-mass-trials-children/
 
deportation hearings..
we haven't got enough judges to hear asylum claims and deportation hearings - so this is what happens

Trump asked for xtra money from Congress -Congress ( Pelosi) as usual did nothing
 
dukkha said:
deportation hearings..
we haven't got enough judges to hear asylum claims and deportation hearings - so this is what happens

Trump asked for xtra money from Congress -Congress ( Pelosi) as usual did nothing
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This has been going on since 2005 and has nothing to do with Pelosi. It got worse with trump's zero tolerance policy because of the child separation aspect.

"Magistrate courts have also adopted the practice of hearing criminal immigration cases en masse, meaning that multiple persons (as many as 50 to 100) appear at the same time before a judge. Judges and defense attorneys have criticized this procedure for undermining due-process rights.

In December 2009, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals held that en masse hearings violated a federal rule governing consideration and acceptance of guilty pleas. According to testimony before the U.S. Sentencing Commission, relevant magistrates have since reviewed their court procedures to guarantee that each defendant is personally questioned in order to ensure that all pleas are voluntary.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/art...streamline-and-prosecution-immigration-crimes
 
Crazy Cat Lady said:
We have become what we accuse dictatorships of being. Goodbye, shining beacon of freedom.
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Procedures are so sketchy that over 1000 children were "lost" in the system. And because of HHS sloppiness, kids were placed with human traffickers... the mind boggles. :rant:

"A top official with the Department of Health and Human Services told members of Congress on Thursday that the agency had lost track of nearly 1,500 migrant children it placed with sponsors in the United States, raising concerns they could end up in the hands of human traffickers or be used as laborers by people posing as relatives. The official, Steven Wagner, the acting assistant secretary of the agency’s Administration for Children and Families, disclosed during testimony before a Senate homeland security subcommittee that the agency had learned of the missing children after placing calls to the people who took responsibility for them when they were released from government custody.

The children were taken into government care after they showed up alone at the Southwest border. Most of the children are from Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala, and were fleeing drug cartels, gang violence and domestic abuse, government data shows...

Two years ago the subcommittee released a report detailing how health and human services officials placed eight children with human traffickers who forced the minors to work on an egg farm in Marion, Ohio. The report found that department officials had failed to establish procedures to protect the unaccompanied minors, such as conducting sufficient background checks on potential sponsors and following up with sponsors. As a result, the children were turned over to the people who contracted them out to the egg farm."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/26/us/politics/migrant-children-missing.html






 
christiefan915 said:
This is American due process under trump.

"A leaked photo showing a federal courtroom packed with dozens of immigrants in orange jumpsuits undergoing a "mass trial" in Texas has shed a light on an increasingly common practice. While it is unclear who took the image, journalist Debbie Nathan, who first came across it while covering mass trials in Texas, believes it was taken in Pecos, a small town around 70 miles southwest of Odessa by someone who did not feel comfortable with the effects of the Trump administration's new "zero tolerance" policy on people caught crossing into the U.S. illegally.

Nathan told Newsweek a number of members of the legal community had told her about the photo before she found it on social media.

The journalist said that, in recent months, she has seen similar mass trials in Brownsville and El Paso and added they were some of the most upsetting things she has witnessed in her three decades of covering border and immigration issues.

"I've seen as many as 40, 41, 42 people all let in, men and women, all shackled at the waist, shackled at the feet, their hands shackled to their waist chains," Nathan said. "It's a very dehumanizing process," the journalist said. "You're just like, how could this possibly be considered American due process?"

Z4UGOP4L


https://www.newsweek.com/leaked-photo-reveals-mass-trial-immigrants-texas-957216
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Not a TRIAL..it is an arraignment...just like EVERY MONDAYY MORNING, IN EVERY COURTROOM IN AMERICA, after a "BUSY WEEKEND".


You fall for EVERY SCRAP OF BULLSHIT YOU ARE SPOONFED....LIKE CLOCKWORK....
 
Grokmaster said:
Not a TRIAL..it is an arraignment...just like EVERY MONDAYY MORNING, IN EVERY COURTROOM IN AMERICA, after a "BUSY WEEKEND".

You fall for EVERY SCRAP OF BULLSHIT YOU ARE SPOONFED....LIKE CLOCKWORK....
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Do the words "convicted and sentenced en masse" mean something different to you than to the rest of us? I challenge you to find the word "arraignment" in either of my links.
 
christiefan915 said:
Do the words "convicted and sentenced en masse" mean something different to you than to the rest of us? I challenge you to find the word "arraignment" in either of my links.
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Let's pretend for a moment that there was yet another Trump LoveMeLongTimePetMyEgoMakeAmericaHateAgain rally. Followers got so excited that they rushed outside, energized and pumped-up due to Der Gropingfuehrer's rousing speechifying, and they then ran amuck through the surrounding area. Plastic cups and straws and MAGA posters were strewn about. Potted plants on the sidewalks were tipped over. There was joyful urination in the alleys. Women were seized and groped. A few not-light-faced ppl were punched. Cops -- there to keep the anti-Toadstool crowds under control -- were forced to make mass arrests for all the mayhem. On the next court day, all the arrested revelers were present at the bench in orange (how appropriate!!!) jumpsuits. There was no arraignment. Just a quick mass trial -- you guys were nutzo -- and then the sentencing. 30 days of community service in the closest ghetto! Oh no! The pain, the agony, the unfairness, the outrage, the Fox News coverage, the Tweets from Twittler!

Yeah.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Let's pretend for a moment that there was yet another Trump LoveMeLongTimePetMyEgoMakeAmericaHateAgain rally. Followers got so excited that they rushed outside, energized and pumped-up due to Der Gropingfuehrer's rousing speechifying, and they then ran amuck through the surrounding area. Plastic cups and straws and MAGA posters were strewn about. Potted plants on the sidewalks were tipped over. There was joyful urination in the alleys. Women were seized and groped. A few not-light-faced ppl were punched. Cops -- there to keep the anti-Toadstool crowds under control -- were forced to make mass arrests for all the mayhem. On the next court day, all the arrested revelers were present at the bench in orange (how appropriate!!!) jumpsuits. There was no arraignment. Just a quick mass trial -- you guys were nutzo -- and then the sentencing. 30 days of community service in the closest ghetto! Oh no! The pain, the agony, the unfairness, the outrage, the Fox News coverage, the Tweets from Twittler!

Yeah.
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IKR. I just wrote something similar on freedumb's thread.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Because allegedly that's how we do things in America. I'm sure that you're shocked.
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facile. Obama used to be able to capture Mexicans at the border and turn them back -no trial
Like I said also -no other country gives trials..

I am all out of sympathy. it's a crisis - over a million illegals will be captured this year..
are we suppose to try them all??
 
dukkha said:
facile. Obama used to be able to capture Mexicans at the border and turn them back -no trial
Like I said also -no other country gives trials..

I am all out of sympathy. it's a crisis - over a million illegals will be captured this year..
are we suppose to try them all??
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Apparently you're far too simplistic to understand the difference between asylum-seekers and border-sneakers. Quelle surprise.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Apparently you're far too simplistic to understand the difference between asylum-seekers and border-sneakers. Quelle surprise.
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you really want to go there?
what do "border sneakers" get when they claim asylum? the same as those entering legally that claim asylum-
no difference
 
Analyses of government statistics confirm:

92 percent of individuals who filed asylum claims attended their court hearings between fiscal years 2013 and 2017

According to DOJ statistics, between 2013 and 2017, 92 percent of asylum seekers appeared in court to receive a final decision on their claims. In FY 2018, 89.4 percent of those who applied for asylum complied with their court hearing obligations. Out of 66,592 final asylum decisions, 7,072 denials were the result of the asylum seeker failing to appear in court.

Asylum seekers released from detention to pursue their claims attend immigration court hearings nearly 100 percent of the time

Government figures made available through the Syracuse University’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) asylum decision tracking tool show near 100 percent appearance rates for asylum seekers released from immigration detention. Out of 10,427 decisions in fiscal year 2018 for released asylum seekers, only 160 received removal orders because they missed a court hearing—resulting in a 98.5 percent court hearing compliance rate.

98 percent of mothers with children who were represented by legal counsel complied with court hearing obligations

As of May 2018, when data analyzed by TRAC was most recently updated, mothers who had passed a credible fear interview and were represented by counsel attended their immigration court hearings over 97.5 percent of the time for cases initiated between 2014 and April 2017. TRAC’s data shows that 36 percent of families went unrepresented in immigration court. While overall apprehensions along the southern border are the lowest in decades, families continue to make up a significant proportion of those crossing the border and seeking admission at ports of entry to request asylum.

In a 15-year study, 92 percent of asylum-seeking families who were released from immigration detention attended all immigration court hearings

A 2018 study published by the American Immigration Council found that, between 2001 and 2016, 92 percent of asylum-seeking families who were released from immigration detention had complied with all immigration court hearing obligations at the conclusion of those proceedings. Further, 96 percent of families with still pending asylum cases who were released from immigration detention attended their hearings.

98.8 percent of children with legal counsel showed up for their court hearings in 2018

TRAC data shows that 98.1 percent of unaccompanied minors who were represented by legal counsel and whose cases began between 2014 and 2017 complied with their court hearing obligations. Of the total number of unaccompanied children who filed cases during this time, however, 40 percent were not represented by counsel.

The rate of missed hearings for individuals who passed a credible fear interview has dropped by nearly 25 percent since 2012

Data released by DOJ show that the percentage of individuals who passed a credible fear interview but failed to appear for court has declined significantly in recent years. The rate fell by 24 percent from a high of 41.6 percent in fiscal year 2012 (2,887 removal orders out of 6,935 cases completed) to 31.8 percent in 2018 (10,859 orders out of 34,158 case decisions). This means that in 2018, nearly 70 percent of individuals who were placed into immigration court proceedings after passing a credible fear interview appeared in court as required.

https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/re...s-regularly-attend-immigration-court-hearings
 
it's manifestly bullshit. it defies human nature. Once they go thru all this maybe get held for 20 days -maybe not
and are released into the interior they are gonna ago back to an immigration facility for an immigration hearing?
and risk deportation? no way this is happening
 
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