Kyrsten Sinema signs onto Biden's economic bill

Hello Jarod,

Jarod said:
I’m proud to be woke, considering the alternative is to be asleep to reality. No wonder the Trumper’s prefer not to be woke, they can’t stand reality.
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They oppose higher education and knowledge.

They are the dupped supporters who keep the rich powerful, easily conned with culture war issues to vote against America, vote against their own better interest.

It is flat amazing that Republicans were going to vote against the bill to provide health care for vets suffering from a myriad of diseases associated with military burn pits.

How dumb was that? The Army was instructed to burn all their waste nearby their camps, so when the wind was right people inhaled the gasses of burning plastic, tires, paint cans, chemicals, all kinds of noxious stuff. But since the vets couldn't PROVE their illnesses were associated with these burn pits, the VA would not hep them.

Who needs an enemy when the US Army is literally killing it's own soldiers?

The problem was identified, legislation was drafted to direct the VA to take care of these people, some have already died, and Republicans first supported it, then decided they didn't. Only after being called out for callousness, did they finally relent, and allow successful good legislation to go through.

Their problem? The president who would sign it is a Democrat. They didn't want him to appear to have any success while in office.

Talk about partisanship.

Republicans will do anything to make America suffer just so it makes Democrats look bad. Republicans do not care about America. They only care about their party and power.
 
Hello cawacko,

cawacko said:
If I want to offer grace I’d say it’s understandable older (white) people might not have heard of the term although it’s been around since at least 2016 (that’s when I first started really hearing it) and was a term used by progressives. So people who are saying they never heard the term until Republicans used within the past year or two live in a serious bubble to me, however offering grace one can say it’s a generational thing. Like a lot of movements they can go too far and get pushback and that’s what has happened to the woke movement.
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Some people pay attention to the news, most don't.
 
Jarod said:
The way the Trumppers are using it is to suggest the there is something wrong with being against racism.
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That’s not what it is. It’s a push back against the excesses of wokeness. One can be woke and not support it’s excesses. One can be woke and be racist. There are lots of factors at play.
 
Hello cawacko,

cawacko said:
It’s more than just the news. The nightly news isn’t ending its newscast with “stay woke fam”
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Agreed. It is possible to hear the term discussed by others who pay attention to the news. Or through second hand rumor-level discussion of the term.

The 4th Estate acts to keep our nation informed. Most people don't make time for it in their lives. America is not very well informed.

If 'woke' has been in the news, it's news to most Americans.
 
Jarod said:
Its a trick they do, sometimes in an attempt to say something without actually saying it, in this case I think its an attempt to be racist, by suggesting that there is something wrong with being against racism.
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Like bleeding heart liberal


As if caring about people made you Ill

As if it’s a disease
 
cawacko said:
That’s not what it is. It’s a push back against the excesses of wokeness. One can be woke and not support it’s excesses. One can be woke and be racist. There are lots of factors at play.
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Defined Wokeness as being aware of social injustice, How can there be an excess of being aware of social injustice?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello cawacko,



Agreed. It is possible to hear the term discussed by others who pay attention to the news. Or through second hand rumor-level discussion of the term.

The 4th Estate acts to keep our nation informed. Most people don't make time for it in their lives. America is not very well informed.

If 'woke' has been in the news, it's news to most Americans.
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This has nothing to do with the news. It’s not the national news’ responsibility to say there’s a term called woke some people are using.
 
Jarod said:
Defined Wokeness as being aware of social injustice, How can there be an excess of being aware of social injustice?
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How can there be an excess of patriotism, love or anything for that matter? Because we deem something good doesn’t mean it can’t be used in a wrong or excessive way.

But if you are truly interested read John McWhorter’s boom Woke Racism. It will answer your question.
 
Wacko is evil


He just likes to pretend he’s not


He is always on the wrong side of everything
 
Nomad said:
I use it because it's the only word available to describe a certain propensity of far left progressive types to point at everything as racism or one of the other currently popular "isms".
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I just think the buzzword Woke is one of those fads that comes and goes. In two years most people won't be using it. In five years it will sound vaguely stupid.

'Politically correct' was the go-to buzzword 20 years ago, but it is rarely used anymore and sounds out of date.

I have just usually never been the type to jump on a fad bandwagon.

The moral of the story for me, is you can't really have social justice unless you first have economic justice.
 
Cypress said:
I just think the buzzword Woke is one of those fads that comes and goes. In two years most people won't be using it. In five years it will sound vaguely stupid.

'Politically correct' was the go-to buzzword 20 years ago, but it is rarely used anymore and sounds out of date.

I have just usually never been the type to jump on a fad bandwagon.

The moral of the story for me, is you can't really have social justice unless you first have economic justice.
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Re: the fad nature of the word itself, I imagine you're right. Lingo changes constantly.

But there will be some other fad word to replace it.

For now though, if I need to describe something or someone that appears to be overly PC to the point of defying common sense, woke will have to do it for me.
 
Cypress said:
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Sinema says she will 'move forward' on economic bill, giving Democrats the votes to move ahead

(CNN)Sen. Kyrsten Sinema on Thursday night agreed to support the Democrats' economic bill, giving Democrats the 50 votes they need to pass the legislation in the coming days.

"The agreement preserves the major components of the Inflation Reduction Act, including reducing prescription drug costs, fighting climate change, closing tax loopholes exploited by big corporations and the wealthy, and reducing the deficit by $300 billion," Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...uck-schumer-economic-bill-saturday/index.html
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I don't think or I know it would have not have boded well for Sinema had she voted against this critically important national economic bill that would have put her in a position that she would sorely regret. It comes to a point that engaging in un-American activities at holding the well being of society hostage for one's personal gain which is not the intent of a elected public servant, and other types of sedition which also comes to a point of reckoning. From what I understand, the elected job of a Congress person or any other public official is to be a public servant at serving the best interests of society and not themselves as a get rich scheme on the taxpayer money that pays them to serve their interests only.
 
Hello Cawacko,

cawacko said:
This has nothing to do with the news. It’s not the national news’ responsibility to say there’s a term called woke some people are using.
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There is only one main reason anybody is talking about 'woke.' And in a way I agree. It's Tucker, not the news.
 
Nomad said:
Re: the fad nature of the word itself, I imagine you're right. Lingo changes constantly.

But there will be some other fad word to replace it.

For now though, if I need to describe something or someone that appears to be overly PC to the point of defying common sense, woke will have to do it for me.
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Thanks for helping the evil side
 
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