anonymoose
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I think it was a bazooka. They're not legal in Wisconsin.
Kyle Rittenhouse
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I think it was a bazooka. They're not legal in Wisconsin.
Is that so?
The charge is a misdemeanor punishable by up to nine months behind bars.
ExpressLane
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So what do you think about the guy that got his bicep vaporized when he drew his Glock. Was he invited?
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Sorry, but two wrongs don't make a right. If junior is of similar status as Rittenhouse, then he can and will be charged accordingly. Thing is, he didn't kill anyone and has not been proven to fire the first shot or start the confrontation brandishing a weapon. Rittenhouse is on the hot seat for the actions described.
Indeed.
An effort by prosecutors at Kyle Rittenhouse's murder trial to portray one of the men he shot as a hero never got off the ground Friday — and one legal expert said they were probably fortunate it didn't.
Anthony Huber, a 26-year-old protester, was seen on bystander video hitting Rittenhouse with a skateboard before he was fatally shot.
Huber's great-aunt, Susan Hughes, was testifying about Huber in a matter-of-fact manner, talking about their relationship, how he ended up at the protest and how he always carried a skateboard.
Then prosecutor James Kraus posed a question: “We’ve seen video here, and you may have seen video as well, that Anthony Huber ran towards Kyle Rittenhouse while Kyle Rittenhouse was armed. Were you surprised, when you heard about that? Were you surprised by his actions?”
As defense attorney Corey Chirafisi swiftly objected, Kraus posed another: “Had you ever seen Anthony Huber run towards danger?”
Hughes said, “Yes,” before Chirafisi objected again and testimony was stopped.
Without the jurors present, Chirafisi argued that if prosecutors were allowed to present evidence that characterizes Huber as a peaceful man, then the defense would be allowed to bring up evidence from Huber’s past that could paint a different picture.
That included criminal cases involving alleged violence Huber committed against his own family members, with the defense reciting in courtroom a detailed account of those allegations.
“I would normally not move to admit those,” Chirafisi said. “However, if they’re saying that this is a peaceful man... ."
Judge Bruce Schroeder agreed, and Kraus withdrew the line of questioning, effectively ending Hughes' testimony.
Mike Brandt, a Minnesota criminal defense attorney who is not connected to the case, said the judge made the right call and that prosecutors had tread on risky ground. The defense evidence would have left the jury with an image of Huber as “hot-headed.”
“Once you open the door, then it’s kind of like the wild Wild West,” he said.
The issue over who was the “first aggressor” also was debated at length outside the jury's presence.
Prosecutors said that if the defense claims that Huber was the “first aggressor” by attacking Rittenhouse with a skateboard, then the state could use Hughes’ testimony to present their theory that Huber and others were trying to stop an active shooter and had been provoked. “The state, frankly, believes that Mr. Huber is a hero and we can present evidence of conduct to rebut that claim that he is aggressively pursuing Kyle Rittenhouse with no basis," Kraus said.
That argument ultimately went nowhere.
https://www.kansas.com/news/nation-world/national/article255585551.html
Anthony Huber, a 26-year-old protester, was seen on bystander video hitting Rittenhouse with a skateboard before he was fatally shot.
Huber's great-aunt, Susan Hughes, was testifying about Huber in a matter-of-fact manner, talking about their relationship, how he ended up at the protest and how he always carried a skateboard.
Then prosecutor James Kraus posed a question: “We’ve seen video here, and you may have seen video as well, that Anthony Huber ran towards Kyle Rittenhouse while Kyle Rittenhouse was armed. Were you surprised, when you heard about that? Were you surprised by his actions?”
As defense attorney Corey Chirafisi swiftly objected, Kraus posed another: “Had you ever seen Anthony Huber run towards danger?”
Hughes said, “Yes,” before Chirafisi objected again and testimony was stopped.
Without the jurors present, Chirafisi argued that if prosecutors were allowed to present evidence that characterizes Huber as a peaceful man, then the defense would be allowed to bring up evidence from Huber’s past that could paint a different picture.
That included criminal cases involving alleged violence Huber committed against his own family members, with the defense reciting in courtroom a detailed account of those allegations.
“I would normally not move to admit those,” Chirafisi said. “However, if they’re saying that this is a peaceful man... ."
Judge Bruce Schroeder agreed, and Kraus withdrew the line of questioning, effectively ending Hughes' testimony.
Mike Brandt, a Minnesota criminal defense attorney who is not connected to the case, said the judge made the right call and that prosecutors had tread on risky ground. The defense evidence would have left the jury with an image of Huber as “hot-headed.”
“Once you open the door, then it’s kind of like the wild Wild West,” he said.
The issue over who was the “first aggressor” also was debated at length outside the jury's presence.
Prosecutors said that if the defense claims that Huber was the “first aggressor” by attacking Rittenhouse with a skateboard, then the state could use Hughes’ testimony to present their theory that Huber and others were trying to stop an active shooter and had been provoked. “The state, frankly, believes that Mr. Huber is a hero and we can present evidence of conduct to rebut that claim that he is aggressively pursuing Kyle Rittenhouse with no basis," Kraus said.
That argument ultimately went nowhere.
https://www.kansas.com/news/nation-world/national/article255585551.html
ExpressLane
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So you broke your vow sucking dicks. You vial cum guzzler. You disgust me. I wipe better stuff than you off my shoe.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Yup....right up to the point where the weapon was discharged and subsequently killed someone...then it becomes a "Class H" felony under Wisconsin law. Look it up.
It all adds up as I previously listed.
Dutch Uncle
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None of your BS changes the fact you're an oath-breaker, doc. My humble advice is for you to stop breaking your oath. Act human at a minimum.
Georgetown University Law Professor Paul Butler has been watching the case closely. So far the prosecutors have focused primarily on Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, who wasn’t in Kenosha to protest. He had just been released from a psychiatric hospital and several witnesses have testified he was acting erratically the night of Aug. 25.
Butler said, “But if the jury thinks that Rosenbaum tried to grab Rittenhouse’s gun, then they can find Rittenhouse was legally justified in shooting him.”
On Friday, Amber Rasmussen, a DNA analyst with the State Crime Lab, testified there’s no way of knowing if Rosenbaum ever touched Rittenhouse’s gun because it was never sent for analysis.
As the first week of the Kyle Rittenhouse homicide trial in Kenosha wraps up Friday, the star witness of the case has been cell phone videos played repeatedly by both the state and the defense.
These videos, taken by protesters and journalists on their cell phones, show Rittenhouse and the three men that he shot at various time throughout the chaotic night of Aug. 25, 2020.
On Monday, the only survivor of the shootings, Gaige Grosskreutz, is expected to testify on behalf of the prosecution. Butler said, “The problem for the prosecution is that if Mr. Rittenhouse has a credible claim of self-defense, it is probably most credible against this witness because he (Grosskreutz) had his own weapon.”
https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2021/11/06/video-footage-stars-in-rittenhouse-trial/
Butler said, “But if the jury thinks that Rosenbaum tried to grab Rittenhouse’s gun, then they can find Rittenhouse was legally justified in shooting him.”
On Friday, Amber Rasmussen, a DNA analyst with the State Crime Lab, testified there’s no way of knowing if Rosenbaum ever touched Rittenhouse’s gun because it was never sent for analysis.
As the first week of the Kyle Rittenhouse homicide trial in Kenosha wraps up Friday, the star witness of the case has been cell phone videos played repeatedly by both the state and the defense.
These videos, taken by protesters and journalists on their cell phones, show Rittenhouse and the three men that he shot at various time throughout the chaotic night of Aug. 25, 2020.
On Monday, the only survivor of the shootings, Gaige Grosskreutz, is expected to testify on behalf of the prosecution. Butler said, “The problem for the prosecution is that if Mr. Rittenhouse has a credible claim of self-defense, it is probably most credible against this witness because he (Grosskreutz) had his own weapon.”
https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2021/11/06/video-footage-stars-in-rittenhouse-trial/
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
translation: it's still unresolved as to who literally started the confrontation. Argued outside of a jury means nothing, as the jury makes the final decision when all evidence is presented. Like it or not, widdle Kyle is still on the hot seat for walking into a tense situation illegally armed and not invited from out of state.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
translation: it's still unresolved as to who literally started the confrontation. Argued outside of a jury means nothing, as the jury makes the final decision when all evidence is presented. Like it or not, widdle Kyle is still on the hot seat for walking into a tense situation illegally armed and not invited from out of state.
ExpressLane
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When prosecutors get a trial with national attention it can be a career builder for them. They have a tendency to over charge the defendant. Then they often have aa difficult time proving those charges. I think that is going to be the case in this trial. I doubt Rittenhouse will be guilty of murder. He is probably going to get convicted of gun charges which are misdemeanor charges. The ANTIFA crowd will not be pleased.
A witness who testified in the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse said that one of the men Rittenhouse shot was acting "belligerently", the Associated Press reported.
Jason Lackowski, a prosecution witness, is a former Marine who said he brought an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle to help protect property during the demonstrations against racial injustice. It was there that he encountered Joseph Rosenbaum, one of the men fatally shot, AP reported.
Lackowski said Rosenbaum "asked very bluntly to shoot him" and mimed a few steps forward as if to "entice someone to do something." Lackowski demonstrated what he described as "false stepping" by taking a small step and slightly lurching forward before stopping.
On Thursday, Richie McGinniss, who was recording events on a cellphone that night, testified that Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse and was gunned down as he lunged for the young man's rifle.
Under cross-examination by Rittenhouse attorney Corey Chirafasi, state crime lab analyst Amber Rasmussen was shown still images of Huber and Rittenhouse and agreed they appeared to show Huber touching the rifle.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...tifies-that-victim-was-belligerent/ar-AAQmRwx
Jason Lackowski, a prosecution witness, is a former Marine who said he brought an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle to help protect property during the demonstrations against racial injustice. It was there that he encountered Joseph Rosenbaum, one of the men fatally shot, AP reported.
Lackowski said Rosenbaum "asked very bluntly to shoot him" and mimed a few steps forward as if to "entice someone to do something." Lackowski demonstrated what he described as "false stepping" by taking a small step and slightly lurching forward before stopping.
On Thursday, Richie McGinniss, who was recording events on a cellphone that night, testified that Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse and was gunned down as he lunged for the young man's rifle.
Under cross-examination by Rittenhouse attorney Corey Chirafasi, state crime lab analyst Amber Rasmussen was shown still images of Huber and Rittenhouse and agreed they appeared to show Huber touching the rifle.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...tifies-that-victim-was-belligerent/ar-AAQmRwx
ExpressLane
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Which is a widdle misdemeanor.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
I have serious doubts as to the first 2 words of your response.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Yup....right up to the point where the weapon was discharged and subsequently killed someone...then it becomes a "Class H" felony under Wisconsin law. Look it up.
It all adds up as I previously listed.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
close, but no cigar. it's still unresolved as to who literally started the confrontation. . Like it or not, widdle Kyle is still on the hot seat for walking into a tense situation illegally armed and not invited from out of state.
Ryan Balch, a former Army infantryman who carried an AR-style rifle that night and walked the streets with Rittenhouse testified that Rosenbaum was "hyperaggressive and acting out in a violent manner," including trying to set fires and throwing rocks. Rosenbaum also angrily threatened to "f------ kill" both Balch and Rittenhouse, Balch testified.
Rosenbaum's fiancée, Kariann Swart, revealed in her own testimony that he was on medication for bipolar disorder and depression, striking a potential blow against the prosecution's argument that Rittenhouse was the aggressor in the situation.
Swart said Rosenbaum was unable to fill his prescriptions before his death because the local pharmacy was closed and boarded up during the unrest.
Rittenhouse shot and killed Anthony Huber, a 26-year-old protester seen on bystander video hitting Rittenhouse with a skateboard. Rittenhouse then wounded Gaige Grosskreutz, 27, who had a gun in his hand as he stepped toward Rittenhouse.
https://www.newsweek.com/witness-kyle-rittenhouse-trial-testifies-that-victim-was-belligerent-not-threat-1646537
Rosenbaum's fiancée, Kariann Swart, revealed in her own testimony that he was on medication for bipolar disorder and depression, striking a potential blow against the prosecution's argument that Rittenhouse was the aggressor in the situation.
Swart said Rosenbaum was unable to fill his prescriptions before his death because the local pharmacy was closed and boarded up during the unrest.
Rittenhouse shot and killed Anthony Huber, a 26-year-old protester seen on bystander video hitting Rittenhouse with a skateboard. Rittenhouse then wounded Gaige Grosskreutz, 27, who had a gun in his hand as he stepped toward Rittenhouse.
https://www.newsweek.com/witness-kyle-rittenhouse-trial-testifies-that-victim-was-belligerent-not-threat-1646537
ExpressLane
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Interesting but not surprising.Guess what?
ALMOST EVERYONE INVOLVED IN PROSECUTING KYLE RITTENHOUSE IS RELATED
The Mayor of Kenosha is John Antaramian, a DEMOCRAT.
One of the mayor’s cousins is the Kenosha City Attorney, Ed Antaramian, also a DEMOCRAT.
His other cousin is Laura Belsky, County Board Supervisor, is another DEMOCRAT.
One of the mayor’s nephews is Kenosha Municipal Judge Michael Easton yet another DEMOCRAT.
Another of the mayor's nephews is Thaddeus (Tip) McGuire, a DEMOCRAT a Wisconsin State Representative.
The lead detective in the case is Benjamin Antaramian, another of the mayor’s nephews.
DEMOCRAT nepotism at its finest?