Kim Jong-un commits to 'complete de-nuclearization' in historic agreement with Trump

Micawber said:
The only agreement NK will possibly make will have the elements of the Iranian model, and Trump didn't get even that.
NK wants boatloads of money in addition to security. With the Iran deal we didn't give them anything except the money we stole from them
back when they "stole" our journalists and went all revolutionary.
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As usual you are totally full of shit, Obama did some pretty despicable things to secure that deal! Naturally you know nothing about Hezbollah turning to cocaine smuggling, you're just not woke!

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/
 
Thing1 said:
I thought conservatives were against meeting w/ brutal tyrants?
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You did?

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Eagle Eye said:
Your 1st mistake is you tried thinking.
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It's important to think on this one.

Yesterday was as smoke & mirrors as international politics gets. If someone can explain to me what was accomplished, I'd be very interested. Kim agreed to denuke w/ SK in April. All yesterday did was elevate his presence globally, and help legitimize him in the world's eyes. Trump treated him much better than he treated our allies.

It's not too difficult to imagine how NK will utilize the images and some of Trump's words internally.
 
Phantasmal said:
Curious as to why no Senators attended this meeting with Trump, not one Republican.
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Good question, probably because they anticipated it was a waste of time, with appreciable downside risk and no credit would inure to their benefit even if due.
Otherwise maybe they are philosophically opposed to dealing with a family owned country of pretend "socialists."
 
Havana Moon said:
Didn't Nixon and Kissinger meet with the Chinese back in the early 70s?
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Nixon was roundly applauded even by his detractors, spending 7 days in multiple cities and really visiting. Contradistinction the yellow porcine pervert jetting in and out of Singapore in a day shaking hands and doing nothing.
NK is so fucked up they couldn't even go there because Trump would have been killed. Wow, tha's some thaw!
 
Havana Moon said:
Why do the Iranians need to be able to produce weapons grade uranium 238, answer that if you can?
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They are not. They are only permitted to produce 300 kg of U235 enriched to 3% to 4% for use in generating nuclear power.

What about the previous agreements that North Korea broke on uranium enrichment ( and NK does have nuclear grade uranium and plutonium stockpiles and weapons, unlike Iran)?
 
tsuke said:
no iran is different from nk.
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They certainly are. Unlike Iran they actually have nuclear weapons, are politically unstable and have a brutal Stalinist regime willing to use them. They also have a very large and strong military force where as Iran's is so weak they can't even handle a military pip squeek like Israel.

Which is completely irrelevent as no one in their right mind wants either regime to have muclear arms. So enforceable and verifiable agreements that reduce or eliminate their nuclear arsenals are good ideas and diplomatic engagement to accomplish that are very, very good things. To say one agreement is good and the other lousy where one (Iran) has lived up to their agreements and the other (NK) has proven untrustworthy in the past. So to make the distinction that Iran is bad and NK good when there isn't even an actual agreement in place is simply partisan political hackery.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
They certainly are. Unlike Iran they actually have nuclear weapons, are politically unstable and have a brutal Stalinist regime willing to use them. They also have a very large and strong military force where as Iran's is so weak they can't even handle a military pip squeek like Israel.

Which is completely irrelevent as no one in their right mind wants either regime to have muclear arms. So enforceable and verifiable agreements that reduce or eliminate their nuclear arsenals are good ideas and diplomatic engagement to accomplish that are very, very good things. To say one agreement is good and the other lousy where one (Iran) has lived up to their agreements and the other (NK) has proven untrustworthy in the past. So to make the distinction that Iran is bad and NK good when there isn't even an actual agreement in place is simply partisan political hackery.
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Mott the Hoople said:
They are not. They are only permitted to produce 300 kg of U235 enriched to 3% to 4% for use in generating nuclear power.

What about the previous agreements that North Korea broke on uranium enrichment ( and NK does have nuclear grade uranium and plutonium stockpiles and weapons, unlike Iran)?
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Iran was enriching uranium and indeed Rouhani said that they could start doing it again in days or weeks. They have the UF6 centrifuges needed to separate U238 from U235.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
They certainly are. Unlike Iran they actually have nuclear weapons, are politically unstable and have a brutal Stalinist regime willing to use them. They also have a very large and strong military force where as Iran's is so weak they can't even handle a military pip squeek like Israel.

Which is completely irrelevent as no one in their right mind wants either regime to have muclear arms. So enforceable and verifiable agreements that reduce or eliminate their nuclear arsenals are good ideas and diplomatic engagement to accomplish that are very, very good things. To say one agreement is good and the other lousy where one (Iran) has lived up to their agreements and the other (NK) has proven untrustworthy in the past. So to make the distinction that Iran is bad and NK good when there isn't even an actual agreement in place is simply partisan political hackery.
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Ain't no teeth in this agreement, as per usual, with Don, it's always about the photo op, nothing more.
 
Jack said:
Oh, man. The 1 hour News Conference was Great. Trump really put a positive spin on everything. According to Trump, there was a lot of verbal agreements made.
Maybe Trump really IS the charmer and 'Deal Maker' he claims to be. He was pretty impressive.
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And the liberal's wails could be heard throughout the land

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS

NEWS AT 11
 
Jack said:
I think the Peace Treaty would negate the presence of American Troops in SK. But also render meaningless Nukes in NK if there is peace.
(I don't know if you watched the 1 hour News Conference with Trump, but it was Great. The way he tells it, there's lots of verbal agreements that aren't in the signed Document)
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That could be part of the discussion between the two; but if SK wants the US to have a base there, there is nothing to stop it.
 
Bigdog said:
So, "the photo op" that leftists were soooo upset about, ... happened. And now, the Left claims it is insignificant ... and identical to prior negotiations. :rofl2:

NK has already stopped launching ICBMs since last year, razed one of their nuke test sites, and returned 3 American prisoners.
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