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I do KNOW that because it is a memory of my own in the comparatively recent past. It is further substantiated by the memories and experiences of friends and colleagues.
There are very few violent crimes here. We have about the third lowest incidence of anywhere. New Zealand, I think is the lowest followed by either Singapore or Japan.
You, as I am sure you are proud to say, have the highest.


no, you DON'T KNOW that. Unless EVERYBODY obeys every single law in your country. Are there no violent crimes in your country?
 
I do KNOW that because it is a memory of my own in the comparatively recent past. It is further substantiated by the memories and experiences of friends and colleagues.
There are very few violent crimes here. We have about the third lowest incidence of anywhere. New Zealand, I think is the lowest followed by either Singapore or Japan.
You, as I am sure you are proud to say, have the highest.

if there is even a slight chance of violent crime, then you don't KNOW your wife or daughter is completely safe. You most likely can be reasonable ASSURED that they can walk with relative safely, but there is no 100%.

As for us having the highest crime rate and being proud of it.....well, lets just say you blew your 'enlightenment' out of the water again. I'm not proud or happy that the US has such a high crime rate. I can assure you that it's not my fault though, simply because I own guns. I blame it on the liberals for their idiotic ideology of 'feeling' that lenience will help criminals not be criminals.
 
Crime is not usually a matter of politics. It is usually the result of deprivation. Often a capitalist government, by its nature, creates more deprivation than does a non capitalist government.
Your crime is on the streets and in the board rooms. The latter is about power and greed. The former is about deprivation. Poor living conditions, a disadvantaged coloured population, a frustrated youth and a disastrous education system.
I will concede on the safety issue. I used 'know' in the same way as I might have used it to say 'I know I will not win the lottery.' (Although more people win the lottery here than get attacked on the streets).


if there is even a slight chance of violent crime, then you don't KNOW your wife or daughter is completely safe. You most likely can be reasonable ASSURED that they can walk with relative safely, but there is no 100%.

As for us having the highest crime rate and being proud of it.....well, lets just say you blew your 'enlightenment' out of the water again. I'm not proud or happy that the US has such a high crime rate. I can assure you that it's not my fault though, simply because I own guns. I blame it on the liberals for their idiotic ideology of 'feeling' that lenience will help criminals not be criminals.
 
Crime is not usually a matter of politics. It is usually the result of deprivation. Often a capitalist government, by its nature, creates more deprivation than does a non capitalist government.
This is a total copout and not worthy of debate. People have choices to make and they can be good or bad choices. I've had very hard times in my life and i've never chosen to resort to robbing people. I've never found it tasteful to rape beautiful young women, and i've never found it pleasurable to torture or kill people. Blaming crime on capitalism is nothing more than a red herring.

I will concede on the safety issue. I used 'know' in the same way as I might have used it to say 'I know I will not win the lottery.' (Although more people win the lottery here than get attacked on the streets).
Thank you for the acknowledgement. Few people ever really SEE that just because they've walked down the street for years with nothing bad happening, doesn't mean that it will then NEVER happen.
 
Crime is not usually a matter of politics. It is usually the result of deprivation. Often a capitalist government, by its nature, creates more deprivation than does a non capitalist government.
Your crime is on the streets and in the board rooms. The latter is about power and greed. The former is about deprivation. Poor living conditions, a disadvantaged coloured population, a frustrated youth and a disastrous education system.
I will concede on the safety issue. I used 'know' in the same way as I might have used it to say 'I know I will not win the lottery.' (Although more people win the lottery here than get attacked on the streets).

Then you are claiming that its about freedoms? I will agree with that. A free society is never completely safe. By allowing people to control their own lives and live without the government overseeing every facet of their lives, they have the ability to to great things or terrible things.



I also think there is a profound difference in the asian culture that goes a long way towards explaining the difference in the amount of violence.
 
It's not a 'total cop out' at all. You suggested that crime was due to what you mistakenly call 'liberals', I merely stated that it was not.
I did not suggest that all deprived people were criminals, I said that usually deprivation breeds crime. The red herring was no such thing. More poverty is caused under capitalism and, in your own experience, you must admit that your democratic governments pay more attention to education.


This is a total copout and not worthy of debate. People have choices to make and they can be good or bad choices. I've had very hard times in my life and i've never chosen to resort to robbing people. I've never found it tasteful to rape beautiful young women, and i've never found it pleasurable to torture or kill people. Blaming crime on capitalism is nothing more than a red herring.


Thank you for the acknowledgement. Few people ever really SEE that just because they've walked down the street for years with nothing bad happening, doesn't mean that it will then NEVER happen.
 
From: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict_c.htm

"In 2005, 24% of the incidents of violent crime, a weapon was present.

Offenders had or used a weapon in 48% of all robberies, compared with 22% of all aggravated assaults and 7% of all rapes/sexual assaults in 2005.

Homicides are most often committed with guns, especially handguns. In 2005, 55% of homicides were committed with handguns, 16% with other guns, 14% with knives, 5% with blunt objects, and 11% with other weapons."


Which means 76% of violent crimes in 2005 had no weapon reported. And there was no weapon at all in 52% of all robberies, 78% of aggravated assaults, and 93% of all rapes/sexual assaults.

And DNC, please note the debunking of your "without guns there would be no murders" with the stats "14% with knives, 5% with blunt objects, and 11% with other weapons."
 
couple more students gunned down in Mich by some white non college graduate afraid of martians and someone taking his guns. What's that like a dozen in the last week?
 
couple more students gunned down in Mich by some white non college graduate afraid of martians and someone taking his guns. What's that like a dozen in the last week?

Does this mean people like DNC, with the threats of taking the guns away have a responsibility for any of this? I have seen the neo-con talk show idiots blamed for their fear mongering. So how about those on the other side who have promoted this agenda?
 
Why do you cling to your guns in the face of reason and humanity? Is it inadequacy?
 
Why do you cling to your guns in the face of reason and humanity? Is it inadequacy?

Hardly. I am happy, well-adjusted, and have a great life.

Why do you continually make up facts and lie to stay in this debate?
 
Family members of Virginia Tech massacre victims will join Mayor Bloomberg in Virginia on Monday to unveil a new TV ad telling the state to tighten its gun laws.

The commercial, paid for by a Bloomberg-funded lobbying group called Americans United for Safe Streets, will hit the airwaves in time for the Thursday's second anniversary of the killings.

The ad targets a provision in Virginia law that lets people buy weapons at gun shows without background checks.

Bloomberg previously set up a coalition of mayors to push for tougher gun laws, and has run ad campaigns through that coalition in the past.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local...h_massacre_victims_to_unveil_gun_law_ad_.html
 
I laugh at ideas that violent USA cowboys have. People's Liberation Army is mighty and could do as it wished, but we have no wish to do what we easily could. We have already taken USA by debts.
 
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Yup, solitary. If I had no other argument against repressive (as opposed to reasonable) gun control, I would use the experience that I and my friends had after the Corps of Engineers/FEMA disaster following Katrina.

I'm in New Orleans, you see. We learned in a few short days that our safety is definitely not in the hands of any governmental authority. Never was, never will be. Maybe on paper, but certainly not in practice.



I walk my land and the areas around them without fear and without cowering at all.

I also leave my petite wife home alone for 5 days a week and do not worry about anyone harming her.

If I moved into your neighborhood with my guns, you would not need to fear for your safety. In fact, not only am I ultra safe when handling firearms, I am available if natural disastor causes people to come seeking to rob you or worse.



I have a friend who lives in Louisianna. He is a gun buff. Two of his neighbors disliked his guns and were constantly mocking his "Trespassers will be shot, Survivors will be shot again" sign. Until after Katrina. Quite a few neighborhoods experienced looters. Theirs did not.
 
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Then-Senator Obama introduced legislation requiring disaster planners to take into account the specific needs of low-income hurricane victims. Obama visited thousands of Hurricane survivors in the Houston Convention Center and later took three more trips to the region. He worked with members of the Congressional Black Caucus to introduce legislation to address the immediate income, employment, business, and housing needs of Gulf Coast communities.

President Barack Obama will partner with the people of the Gulf Coast to rebuild now, stronger than ever.
 
April 19, 1993,

The reason that all American citizens should be armed with automatic weapons, to eradicate the vermin that has infected our great nation through it's political entities. Reflect upon that day that the US Government murdered 80+ men, women, and children for not paying taxes.
 
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President Barack Obama has improved our intelligence system by creating positions to coordinate domestic intelligence gathering, establishing a grant program to support thousands more state and local level intelligence analysts, and increasing our capacity to share intelligence across all levels of government with subpoena powers and reporting responsibilities.

President Obama will strengthen federal hate crimes legislation, expand hate crimes protection, and reinvigorate enforcement at the Department of Justice's Criminal Section.
 
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The gun in America ‘reeks of white power’ and is historically tied to romantic tales of ‘white frontier heroes and valiant Southern plantation owners rescuing their white daughters from the hands of black predators’.

Burbick’s explicit reference to Birth of a Nation (1915) fits into a chain of American cinematic imagery and icons of masculinity, from Buffalo Bill Cody through Charlton Heston and Ronald Reagan to Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger, who subsequently act as cultural reference points for the social and political values of the gun (the phallic symbolism being taken as a given).

The usual suspects predictably emerge as Burbick links the fantasies and mythology of the Western frontier to the white, male, right-wing gun advocates who fervently perceive their right to the Second Amendment (or, at least, to their interpretation of the Second Amendment) as a stonewall 'litmus test for their democracy’.

Somewhat at odds with the notion of a ‘gun show nation’, the militia groups, gun enthusiasts and National Rifle Association (NRA) members tend to fall under a familiar demographic of middle-aged and aging white men, based predominantly in the mid-West and Western United States, whose politics – we are told – are shaped primarily by paranoia and fear.

The American nation as a whole is not necessarily obsessed with guns – rather, the gun is a ‘political fetish’ that operates as a potent, though increasingly outmoded, cultural symbol of white male power.

Race and gender issues are frequently used to help explain the darker side of the political identity associated with gun ownership, and there is even a thinly diluted sense of irony when Burbick briefly recounts the statistics for gun fatalities – finding suicidal white men over fifty-five (a key demographic in the pro-gun camp) to be amongst the most vulnerable.

While such a self-destructive impulse can be used to counteract the logic of ‘the right to bear arms’ as a means of self-defense, it also hints at a significant shortcoming of Gun Show Nation.

In seeking to answer the question of why Americans are so obsessed with guns, Burbick fails to address the issue of high school and college shootings, preferring instead the soft, flabby target of aging white guys who still think of Charlton Heston as Moses.

Burbick also seems caught, at times, between wanting to express an enthused journalistic sort of reportage and having to hold back, assuming the more distanced analytical stance of the professional academic.

It would be interesting to read a more controversial, outspoken polemic on gun culture – especially Hunter S. Thompson’s unpublished manuscript on the gun lobby, written amidst the turbulent politics of the late 1960s, which threatened to discuss (from a gun freak’s point of view) how the NRA uses its members rather than representing them.

Nevertheless, while not startlingly original or revelatory, Gun Show Nation delivers a compelling and accessible analysis of the symbiotic relationship between American gun culture and Second Amendment identity politics.

http://www.americansc.org.uk/Reviews/Gunshow.htm
SO it really IS a racial issue with you. Maybe my sarcastically inspired stereotype of you was not so off the mark!
 
The gun in America ‘reeks of white power’ and is historically tied to romantic tales of ‘white frontier heroes and valiant Southern plantation owners rescuing their white daughters from the hands of black predators’.

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