Keeping Them Out Is Better Than Letting Them Come In

What a moron .... do you know what the illegals do the minute they get here ? They apply for welfare !

STFU !! You don’t know what you are talking about !

Thank God those billionaires .... pay taxes !

They don't pay their fair taxes. They have lobbied for laws that slash their taxes and allow them to hide money. Many top corporations that make billions pay no taxes. Trump has doubled the number of corporations that escape taxes.
Do you not know that the tax code was created by the lobbying of wealthy and corporations? Did you just come out of a cave? You surely cannot figure out who pays for the taxes the wealthy evade.
 
I work with people that work with their hands, people that have at best a High School education. They aren't going to be Lawyers, Doctors, or Engineers, they're going to be 'Worker Drones'. Now, I'm betting on you either being a woman or some guy that's a 'chair jockey' in some air conditioned high-rise, that has a Lunch Room nearby, a clean Restroom to use, and a nice carpet to walk on. So, I'm not going to waste my time on trying to explain the economic situation for these people ... to you.

Since you are wrong, your explanation would fail. Read Maslow and get back to me.
People work hard in America, and in every other country too. I am sure you think you are the best worker on the planet. it is those other people who don't work hard enough.
There are people whose internal makeup would see working in an office as torture. Many people are happy working on autos and machinery. We need electricians and plumbers.
 
Since you are wrong, your explanation would fail. Read Maslow and get back to me.
People work hard in America, and in every other country too. I am sure you think you are the best worker on the planet. it is those other people who don't work hard enough.
There are people whose internal makeup would see working in an office as torture. Many people are happy working on autos and machinery. We need electricians and plumbers.

Gonzo: "Since you are wrong"
Jack: :) hahahaha ... We have different opinions. Let's leave it at that.
 
Did he say anything about we don't have enough Doctors? If we had 100,000 more Doctors, health care would be cheaper and more available. Did he say anything about Doctors?

Doctors are artificially limited by med schools. No, he was not specific. The truth is to grow the economy, we need more workers. We are not cranking out enough kids. We need immigrants to work and live here.
 
Doctors are artificially limited by med schools. No, he was not specific. The truth is to grow the economy, we need more workers. We are not cranking out enough kids. We need immigrants to work and live here.

Gonzo: "Doctors are artificially limited by med schools.'
Jack; Gee. Why would they do THAT?

Gonzo: "we need more workers."
Jack: We need more Doctors.

It's interesting that you take your 'marching orders' from the Capitalists.
 
I do not know if Democrats in Congress can block trump, but I am certain that Pelosi and Schumer already found an Obama judge that will prohibit Trump from implementing his brilliant tariff strategy.

Upchuck talks about President Trump backing off on tariffs because Senator Vomit dare not say ‘Border must remain open for illegal aliens regardless of the cost to to this country’s laws and sovereignty.’




Note that Establishment Republicans are as guilty as Democrats:

Trump: 'Foolish' for GOP to try to stop tariffs on Mexico
By Jordan Fabian
06/04/19 09:39 AM EDT

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...lish-for-gop-to-try-to-stop-tariffs-on-mexico
 
Upchuck talks about President Trump backing off on tariffs because Senator Vomit dare not say ‘Border must remain open for illegal aliens regardless of the cost to to this country’s laws and sovereignty.’




Note that Establishment Republicans are as guilty as Democrats:

Trump: 'Foolish' for GOP to try to stop tariffs on Mexico
By Jordan Fabian
06/04/19 09:39 AM EDT

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...lish-for-gop-to-try-to-stop-tariffs-on-mexico

So you think we have open borders. Yet we have thousands of Central Americans at existing border towns applying to guards for amnesty. Been said many times, drugs and illegals come through existing guarded border towns. The wall is a chimera. It lures people who think illogically and believe what Trump says.
I suppose boats, airplanes, and tunnels do not move people to America.
 
So you think we have open borders.

To Gonzomin: I know it. Proof. Democrats fighting like hell to prevent building a wall that will keep illegal aliens out?

Yet we have thousands of Central Americans at existing border towns applying to guards for amnesty.

To Gonzomin: You are confusing political asylum with amnesty. Either way means no border.

The wall is a chimera. It lures people who think illogically and believe what Trump says.

To Gonzomin: Get yourself some new talking points. Americans wanted the borders secured long before Trump entered politics. Building a wall is the last recourse after decades of Congress refusing to protect this country.
 
What a moron .... do you know what the illegals do the minute they get here ? They apply for welfare !

STFU !! You don’t know what you are talking about !

Thank God those billionaires .... pay taxes !

They do not qualify and you are now the dumbest shit on this board, Congratulations. When Ike was president top tax rate was over 90 percent. It has been cut over and over.
 
They do not qualify and you are now the dumbest shit on this board, Congratulations. When Ike was president top tax rate was over 90 percent. It has been cut over and over.

Educate yourself .....

No single program explains non-citizens' higher overall welfare use. For example, not counting school lunch and breakfast, welfare use is still 61 percent for non-citizen households compared to 33 percent for natives. Not counting Medicaid, welfare use is 55 percent for immigrants compared to 30 percent for natives.
Welfare use tends to be high for both newer arrivals and long-time residents. Of households headed by non-citizens in the United States for fewer than 10 years, 50 percent use one or more welfare programs; for those here more than 10 years, the rate is 70 percent.
Welfare receipt by working households is very common. Of non-citizen households receiving welfare, 93 percent have at least one worker, as do 76 percent of native households receiving welfare. In fact, non-citizen households are more likely overall to have a worker than are native households.1
The primary reason welfare use is so high among non-citizens is that a much larger share of non-citizens have modest levels of education and, as a result, they often earn low wages and qualify for welfare at higher rates than natives.
Of all non-citizen households, 58 percent are headed by immigrants who have no more than a high school education, compared to 36 percent of native households.
Of households headed by non-citizens with no more than a high school education, 81 percent access one or more welfare programs. In contrast, 28 percent of non-citizen households headed by a college graduate use one or more welfare programs.
Like non-citizens, welfare use also varies significantly for natives by educational attainment, with the least educated having much higher welfare use than the most educated.
Using education levels and likely future income to determine the probability of welfare use among new green card applicants — and denying permanent residency to those likely to utilize such programs — would almost certainly reduce welfare use among future permanent residents.
Of households headed by naturalized immigrants (U.S. citizens), 50 percent used one or more welfare programs. Naturalized-citizen households tend to have lower welfare use than non-citizen households for most types of programs, but higher use rates than native households for virtually every major program.
Welfare use is significantly higher for non-citizens than for natives in all four top immigrant-receiving states. In California, 72 percent of non-citizen-headed households use one or more welfare programs, compared to 35 percent for native-headed households. In Texas, the figures are 69 percent vs. 35 percent; in New York they are 53 percent vs. 38 percent; and in Florida, 56 percent of non-citizen-headed households use at least welfare program, compared to 35 percent of native households.
 
I know why. They are ignorant of the facts and buy right-wing propaganda. It has nothing to do with automation and immigrants. Your life is not hampered by a Mexican picking crops. It is gutted by billionaires lobbying for legislation that guts you. It is by tax breaks to the top 1 percent. It is by wealthy being able to hide money. The Latino working in a taco restaurant is not your problem. You guys just cannot learn.
It is normal and a fact of humanity that we look down on people we think are below us . It is tough to recognize and tough to stop. This is where your money is going.https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...iv&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiL2eTTpMniAhVRMaw0KHbKD40Q

Who is stopping farm workers from coming here LEGALLY to do work Americans won't do snowflake? Yo think you can just fabricate a strawman filled with lies and no one will challenge you? Moron.
 
Saw the head of the FED interviewed today. He says one big problem with America is we do not have enough workers.

...due to the very strong economy. That's gotta piss of liberals. :laugh: But what he really meant to say is that we do not have enough skilled workers for the jobs that are available.
 
They don't pay their fair taxes. They have lobbied for laws that slash their taxes and allow them to hide money. Many top corporations that make billions pay no taxes. Trump has doubled the number of corporations that escape taxes.
Do you not know that the tax code was created by the lobbying of wealthy and corporations? Did you just come out of a cave? You surely cannot figure out who pays for the taxes the wealthy evade.

Good Lord you are one dumb mother fucker. Move to Cuba snowflake. They agree with everything you buffoonishly bloviate.
 
Doctors are artificially limited by med schools. No, he was not specific. The truth is to grow the economy, we need more workers. We are not cranking out enough kids. We need immigrants to work and live here.

We need LEGAL immigrants dumbass; not open borders. STFU please. We get it; you're a Marxist moron.
 
They do not qualify and you are now the dumbest shit on this board, Congratulations. When Ike was president top tax rate was over 90 percent. It has been cut over and over.

...and revenues continued to climb. You sad pathetic dunce; you actually think you know what you are bloviating ignorantly about. Can you find me a nation that taxed it's citizens into prosperity. I will wait.
 
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Keeping Them Out Is Better Than Letting Them Come In" If you were referring to Putin's puppet tRump, his crumb snatching and criminal family and antigovernment conspiring GOPer cronies, blue dogs, etc., who are all a putrid disgrace to the common decency and forward thinking of humanity, I would absolutely agree. They are all worthy to be put under the world.
 
Trump grabbed his ankles again:

Mexico has opposed such a change but appeared open to considering a potential compromise that could include exceptions or waivers for different types of cases.


Trump says US, Mexico reach agreement to prevent tariffs
The Associated Press
JILL COLVIN, MATTHEW LEE and LUIS ALONSO LUGO
Jun 7th 2019 8:56PM

https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...-reach-agreement-to-prevent-tariffs/23744211/

I would like to know why Mexico gets to decide “. . . exceptions or waivers for different types of cases.” In short: Before Trump leaves office, millions of United Nations economic refugees will pour in on ‘POLITICAL ASYLUM’ waivers.

Not only did Trump back down for the United Nations and Mexico he admits that Senator Vomit called the tune:



Maybe now Trump will keep his goddamned mouth shut until he is ready to do what he says instead of holding sales rallies. He might not be be able to lie his way out of handing our border to Mexico, but you can be sure that he will cover up his yellow streak by bragging about everything he accomplished at the same time the borders remain open to every filthy parasite the United Nations sends here.
 
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Who is stopping farm workers from coming here LEGALLY to do work Americans won't do snowflake? Yo think you can just fabricate a strawman filled with lies and no one will challenge you? Moron.

Agriculture in America has been staffed with illegals for generations. They came over the border with their families, picked crops and then went home with the money they earned. Americans think everyone wants to come to America to live, But Mexican labor has come here and left for many, many years. The laborers had agreements to return year after year to the same farms.

Trump took advantage of illegals on his golf courses and used illegals to work in NY construction. When reporters started to check his courses, he fired every illegal, even the ones who were longtime employees. He was caught.
 
Sorry you ignorant rightys are unable to understand the simple fact that illegal immigrants have been the backbone of agriculture and cheap labor since American agriculture started. Would it be better if they did government paperwork before they came in? Who knows. But the simple realty is employers have used illegal immigrants in America to increase profitability. They work cheaply and work hard. Many times owners cheat them. There are 8 million illegals working in the US.
 
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