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Liberals not pleased with go-slow approach by Obama
Activists recall his promises as a candidate and express frustration at his equivocation as president. They cite stem cell research and the detainee policy as examples.
By Peter Wallsten

February 16, 2009

Reporting from Washington — Slowly over the last few weeks, some of Barack Obama's most fervent supporters have come to an unhappy realization: The candidate who they thought was squarely on their side in policy fights is now a president who needs cajoling and persuading.

Advocates for stem cell research thought Obama would quickly sign an order to reverse former President Bush's restrictions on the science. Now they are fretting over Obama's statement that he wants to act in tandem with Congress, possibly causing a delay.

Critics of Bush's faith-based initiative thought Obama had promised to end religious discrimination among social service groups taking federal money.

But Obama, in announcing his own faith-based program this month, said only that the discrimination issue might be reviewed.

And Obama's recent moves regarding a lawsuit by detainees have left some liberal groups and Bush critics, including the American Civil Liberties Union, feeling betrayed, given that Obama was a harsh critic of Bush's detainee policies when running for office last year.

The anxiety is also being felt in the labor movement, one of Obama's most important support bases. Some union officials and their allies are frustrated that at a crucial point in negotiations over his massive stimulus package, Obama seemed to call for limits on "Buy American" provisions in the bill aimed at making sure stimulus money would be spent on U.S.-made materials.

Obama has been president for less than a month, and his liberal critics concede that the economic crisis has understandably taken the focus off their issues. But some of the issues in play were crucial to building excitement on the left and mobilizing grass-roots support for Obama's candidacy.

"He made very clear promises, and he should live up to them," said Arthur Stamoulis, director of the Oregon Fair Trade Campaign, which received an unqualified "yes" from Obama on a campaign questionnaire last year when the group asked if he would support "Buy American" requirements. "The fact that he's hedging on this is not promising. He's catering much too much to the desires of Republicans who are not going to support the change that voters wanted."

Yet for some who supported him, Obama's recent actions contain either outright abandonment of what they thought had been campaign promises, or at least a hesitation on Obama's part to follow through quickly and clearly.


At the ACLU, Executive Director Anthony D. Romero said his group's disappointment was "deep and unparalleled" after the Justice Department decided to keep in place one of the most controversial legal tactics of the Bush anti-terrorism arsenal: using the "state secrets" doctrine to block lawsuits by detainees.

The Justice Department invoked the privilege last week in arguing that a case should not proceed because it might lead to the disclosure of state secrets.

As a candidate, Obama had attacked Bush for using the tactic and had pledged to reverse such policies.

"Clearly, the state secrets campaign promise is broken," Romero said, "on his watch, with his attorney general, and with his government lawyers articulating the Bush administration policies."


http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obama-anxiety16-2009feb16,0,4591196,print.story



Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Quick, someone get more Kool-Aid, its starting to wear off.
 
Obama? Liberal?


HAHAHAHIAHAAHHAHAHA

just because he is to the right of you doesn't mean he is not liberal, you are a liberal kook, so 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 percent of all people are to the right of you
 
I read this article earlier today. It is early in Obama's Presidency so some people just need to be more patient. However Obama did run an excellent campaign and he did make some specific promises. It worked well on the campaign trail when you are not the one in power but it obviously can be a lot more difficult when you must implement them. There's a long time left to go but I think this board even reflects a few of the criticisms the author references.
 
Obama's less conservative than most of the nuts out there. WM should start with the nuttiest conservos first.
 
I read this article earlier today. It is early in Obama's Presidency so some people just need to be more patient. However Obama did run an excellent campaign and he did make some specific promises. It worked well on the campaign trail when you are not the one in power but it obviously can be a lot more difficult when you must implement them. There's a long time left to go but I think this board even reflects a few of the criticisms the author references.

This is a problem with most revolutions. They are great at fighting, making declarations and pointing outthe flaws. After they win they then have to actually govern. Its usually not a pretty sight.
 
I read this article earlier today. It is early in Obama's Presidency so some people just need to be more patient. However Obama did run an excellent campaign and he did make some specific promises. It worked well on the campaign trail when you are not the one in power but it obviously can be a lot more difficult when you must implement them. There's a long time left to go but I think this board even reflects a few of the criticisms the author references.

The luxury of opposition, they call it in parliamentary democracies.
 
All comes in time. When I'm king we can just lay em all down at once.

Is your Social Security Number 6-6-6 or maybe 213-51-0222 (Note each of the three sets add up to 6) by some fluke of luck? :pke:

If not, I'm not concerned about you being King.

Immie
 
just because he is to the right of you doesn't mean he is not liberal, you are a liberal kook, so 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 percent of all people are to the right of you

Just because someone is to the left of you doesn't make them a liberal.

Simple test .. name the liberals in Obambi's Administration.

Should be easy.
 
Liberals not pleased with go-slow approach by Obama
Activists recall his promises as a candidate and express frustration at his equivocation as president. They cite stem cell research and the detainee policy as examples.
By Peter Wallsten

February 16, 2009

Reporting from Washington — Slowly over the last few weeks, some of Barack Obama's most fervent supporters have come to an unhappy realization: The candidate who they thought was squarely on their side in policy fights is now a president who needs cajoling and persuading.

Advocates for stem cell research thought Obama would quickly sign an order to reverse former President Bush's restrictions on the science. Now they are fretting over Obama's statement that he wants to act in tandem with Congress, possibly causing a delay.

Critics of Bush's faith-based initiative thought Obama had promised to end religious discrimination among social service groups taking federal money.

But Obama, in announcing his own faith-based program this month, said only that the discrimination issue might be reviewed.

And Obama's recent moves regarding a lawsuit by detainees have left some liberal groups and Bush critics, including the American Civil Liberties Union, feeling betrayed, given that Obama was a harsh critic of Bush's detainee policies when running for office last year.

The anxiety is also being felt in the labor movement, one of Obama's most important support bases. Some union officials and their allies are frustrated that at a crucial point in negotiations over his massive stimulus package, Obama seemed to call for limits on "Buy American" provisions in the bill aimed at making sure stimulus money would be spent on U.S.-made materials.

Obama has been president for less than a month, and his liberal critics concede that the economic crisis has understandably taken the focus off their issues. But some of the issues in play were crucial to building excitement on the left and mobilizing grass-roots support for Obama's candidacy.

"He made very clear promises, and he should live up to them," said Arthur Stamoulis, director of the Oregon Fair Trade Campaign, which received an unqualified "yes" from Obama on a campaign questionnaire last year when the group asked if he would support "Buy American" requirements. "The fact that he's hedging on this is not promising. He's catering much too much to the desires of Republicans who are not going to support the change that voters wanted."

Yet for some who supported him, Obama's recent actions contain either outright abandonment of what they thought had been campaign promises, or at least a hesitation on Obama's part to follow through quickly and clearly.


At the ACLU, Executive Director Anthony D. Romero said his group's disappointment was "deep and unparalleled" after the Justice Department decided to keep in place one of the most controversial legal tactics of the Bush anti-terrorism arsenal: using the "state secrets" doctrine to block lawsuits by detainees.

The Justice Department invoked the privilege last week in arguing that a case should not proceed because it might lead to the disclosure of state secrets.

As a candidate, Obama had attacked Bush for using the tactic and had pledged to reverse such policies.

"Clearly, the state secrets campaign promise is broken," Romero said, "on his watch, with his attorney general, and with his government lawyers articulating the Bush administration policies."


http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obama-anxiety16-2009feb16,0,4591196,print.story



Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Quick, someone get more Kool-Aid, its starting to wear off.

This is a concept that is strange and new to goosesteppin' conservatives .. it's called participatory government ..something you knuckleheads SHOULD have engaged in while Bush was in office and you had complete control of government.

But because the knuckledraggers on the right are programmed for goosesteppin', you idiots were quiet as a mouse while Bush destroyed the country and your miserable party.

The left will challenge and criticize their own if they stray off course .. something layed out and detailed in the Declaration of Independence which defines the difference between a citizen and a subject.

Thus, here we have a bunch of subjects to the ideological crown criticizing citizens who are excercizing their right, duty, and responsibility to be actively engaged in steering the course of this nation instead of sitting on their asses and whining and complaining.

Oh please brilliant conservative gurus ..please tell us how you achieved such amazing successes at government. Please tellus how you became so admired allover the world for your brand of politics. Please tell us how you've exploded your ranks and brought republican identity up to what .. 28%.

What dummies.
 
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